Re: [討論] Pedroia跟Cano什麼時候開始黃金交叉的?

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幫大家找了當初兩人還有Melky的BA球探報告 ※ 引述《wyner (外嫩)》之銘言: : SUMMARY WAR AB R H HR RBI SB AVG OBP SLG OPS OPS+ : Pedroia 52.3 6000 920 1802 140 724 138 .300 .366 .441 .807 114 : Cano 67.5 7918 1164 2410 304 1201 51 .304 .355 .494 .848 126 Robinson Cano Ranked New York Yankees #6 prospect after the 2003 season The Yankees' willingness to move prospects quickly under former player personnel chief Gordon Blakeley is illustrated by Cano's progress in 2003. His father Jose reached the majors briefly in 1989. One of the most confident hitters in the system, Cano can sting hard line drives to right field with an easy, level swing. He's capable of producing more power than he did last year because he has plus bat speed and natural strength, but he needs to learn to lift the ball. As Cano has filled out, especially in his lower half, he has lost his quickness. He doesn't get down the line well and on defense, his range is lacking at second base, which could prompt a move to third. Cano has the arm strength and projects to hit for enough power to justify a move to the hot corner. For now he'll remain at second base and return to Double-A. Ranked New York Yankees #2 prospect after the 2004 season Cano's name was tossed around in trade rumors when the Yankees unsuccessfully tried to acquire Randy Johnson at the July 31 deadline, but he was not part of the deal when New York finally got Johnson over the winter. A confident player, Cano plays as if he belongs in the majors. His father Jose pitched briefly in the big leagues. Cano's arm is his best tool and rates as a 65 on the 20-80 scouting scale. More important, he can hit. He has good bat speed and a fluid swing, allowing him to catch up to good fastballs. His improving plate discipline helped his power numbers increase; he set career highs in walks and slugging in 2004. Cano hasn't handled lefthanders well, with just seven extra base hits in 130 at-bats against southpaws above Class A. He's a below-average runner for an infielder, and his lower half figures to get thicker as he gets older. He has solid infield actions and the Yankees refute reports that he has below-average range. Cano could be a bench option in New York for 2005, but he'll likely head back to Columbus for a full season in Triple-A after the Yankees signed free agent Tony Womack. Ranked International League #14 prospect in 2004 The Yankees don't often give opportunities to their own prospects, but Cano is one of their system's best hitters and Miguel Cairo isn't exactly an all-star. Cano surpassed catcher Dioner Navarro as New York's top position prospect in the upper minors and could make an impact in the majors as early as next season. Cano has outstanding hand-eye coordination and a level, easy swing. The ball jumps off his bat. His power and patience are developing, and he should produce more offense than the typical second baseman. Whether Cano stays at second base is another question, however. He has below-average range and doesn't show the agility to turn double plays well. If he has to move to third base, he has enough arm strength. 基本上就是揮棒很漂亮 揮棒速度快+有power潛力 臂力強 守備就普普 Dustin Pedroia Ranked Boston Red Sox #7 prospect after the 2006 season Since he was Boston's top pick (second round) in 2004, Pedroia consistently has hit .300 and stayed at shortstop in spite of scouts' belief he'll have to eventually move to second base. He continually draws David Eckstein comparisons, though he has more pop and less speed than the World Series MVP does. Pedroia has some of the best hand-eye coordination in baseball. That allows him to make consistent contact while swinging from his heels, which in turn gives him gap power. He led the Triple-A International League by averaging just one strikeout per 18.3 plate appearances, and he fanned just seven times in 89 big league at-bats. His instincts make him an effective defender and baserunner. Surehanded, he has made just 17 errors in 301 pro games. Pedroia is undersized and needs to get stronger so he can avoid the nagging injuries (wrist and shoulder) that have bothered him the last two years. His speed, range and arm strength are all below-average, but that hasn't stopped him yet. The Red Sox signed free agent Julio Lugo to start at shortstop, but they also let Mark Loretta depart, leaving an opening at second base. That's the best fit for Pedroia, the frontrunner to claim the starting job there. Ranked International League #18 prospect in 2006 Pedroia is the classic example of a player who plays above his tools. Opposing mangers described him as a pesky hitter and a tough out, but had reservations about his lack of power and range. Pedroia got results in Triple-A, though, batting .305 (fifth in the IL) with 30 doubles and nearly twice as many walks (48) as strikeouts (27). Pedroia makes up for below-average speed and raw power by maximizing his selectivity as a hitter and by using the whole field. He showed an aptitude for taking the breaking ball the other way, and he has the hand-eye coordination to make consistent contact while using a big swing. "Pitchers will always challenge Pedroia, and he will prove them wrong," a scout said. "He will put the ball in play. He'll use the first-base and third-base line. He's a kid you love to have on your club." Pedroia was a shortstop at Arizona State and spent the majority of his time there for Pawtucket, but he doesn't have the range to be a regular there in the majors. He spent a lot of time at second base, and his sure hands and strong arm play better at the keystone. 主要是comtact好 球感好 可以彌補體能上的弱點 比較對象是David Eckstein (怎麼感覺有點低估?) Melky Cabrera Ranked New York Yankees #7 prospect after the 2004 season Cabrera signed for $175,000 in 2001 and has quickly developed into one of the organization's better hitters. He was slated to appear in the Midwest League's all-star game before getting a promotion to high Class A, where he showed the best power of his career. Cabrera's swing and hand-eye coordination make him the best hitter for average in the system. One club official compared his offensive game to Jose Vidro's. Cabrera has a quick stroke from both sides of the plate, with quick hands that allow him to catch up to quality fastballs. He punishes breaking balls and lashes line drives from gap to gap. He has an above-average throwing arm. An average runner, Cabrera projects as no more than an average defender in center field. There's some thought that as he matures physically and slows down, he'll have to move to an outfield corner. His approach and swing are geared more toward line drives and contact, so he doesn't profile as well on a corner. The Yankees have time to figure out where Cabrera fits. His advanced approach will enable him to begin 2005 in Double-A. Ranked Midwest League #15 prospect in 2004 Though he was one of the league's youngest regulars at age 19, the MWL didn't present much of a challenge to Cabrera. He earned a promotion to the high Class A Florida State League before the end of May, and he started to show over-the-fence power once he moved up. Cabrera's hand-eye coordination ranked with Kendrick's, and he also trusts his hands and doesn't try to do too much at the plate. He should hit 18-20 homers annually as he matures physically. He needs to draw more walks, though he's handicapped by his ability to make contact. Cabrera's speed, arm and outfield range are all average. He played center field this year but may fit better defensively in left once he reaches the majors. 農場最佳打者 一年打20轟沒問題 其他條件都還算OK 怎麼感覺基石卡布才是GG農場大物XD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 123.194.192.160 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1525782042.A.93A.html

05/08 20:24, 6年前 , 1F
Hofer Melkey耶 當然是最大物阿
05/08 20:24, 1F

05/08 21:24, 6年前 , 2F
H*Fer
05/08 21:24, 2F

05/08 21:25, 6年前 , 3F
XDDDD
05/08 21:25, 3F

05/08 21:30, 6年前 , 4F
讓人懷念的梗 XDD
05/08 21:30, 4F

05/08 21:39, 6年前 , 5F
Cano>>>Ped,哦齁
05/08 21:39, 5F

05/08 21:52, 6年前 , 6F
幹 Melky怎麼這麼突兀XDD
05/08 21:52, 6F

05/08 21:57, 6年前 , 7F
XD
05/08 21:57, 7F

05/08 21:59, 6年前 , 8F
http://inspic.com/57252685 想當初Melky3000H的表格XD
05/08 21:59, 8F

05/08 22:39, 6年前 , 9F
樓上那個也太好笑XDD 生涯Avg只有0.218
05/08 22:39, 9F

05/08 23:56, 6年前 , 10F
只看攻擊端的話從來不覺得Pedroia比Cano強
05/08 23:56, 10F

05/09 00:05, 6年前 , 11F
請問一下Melky那個圖的梗是怎麼來的?
05/09 00:05, 11F

05/09 00:15, 6年前 , 12F
玩遊戲不小心打到累積3000安
05/09 00:15, 12F

05/09 00:19, 6年前 , 13F
melky好像有單季兩百安過?其實真的不差了
05/09 00:19, 13F

05/09 00:20, 6年前 , 14F
多少雜魚無法上大聯盟,上了大聯盟就不是雜魚了
05/09 00:20, 14F

05/09 00:33, 6年前 , 15F
純粹只看攻擊端數據Cano真的不會比較差
05/09 00:33, 15F

05/09 00:52, 6年前 , 16F
Melky 爆發那兩年就*** 不過錢也賺到了
05/09 00:52, 16F

05/09 02:28, 6年前 , 17F
有*****就是噓到底,當初有放棄打擊王資格算有良心
05/09 02:28, 17F

05/09 02:29, 6年前 , 18F
不會作弊還說我作弊也有努力才打得到球這種屁話
05/09 02:29, 18F

05/09 02:54, 6年前 , 19F
contact打成comtact惹 abc大母湯
05/09 02:54, 19F

05/09 03:37, 6年前 , 20F
David Eckstein 才5'7, Pedroia 有5'9, 完全被低估了
05/09 03:37, 20F

05/09 04:28, 6年前 , 21F
只看攻擊Cano是歷史級的吧
05/09 04:28, 21F

05/09 11:47, 6年前 , 22F
這兩個基本上都突破自己的天花板 自成一格了
05/09 11:47, 22F

05/09 23:25, 6年前 , 23F
MVPedroia 傑森史塔森生涯可以拿到MVP就可以嘴一輩子
05/09 23:25, 23F

05/10 00:22, 6年前 , 24F
Cano名人堂應該也有機會吧 都滿穩定的
05/10 00:22, 24F
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