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※ 引述《ODFans (只發中肯文)》之銘言： : http://tinyurl.com/nds32ko : 給懶得看的 : Jatt預測排名 : 1. iG : 2. FNC : 3. ahq : 4. C9 我直接翻譯吧，先讓我把MGV放一邊T__T 奶寶Quiet等我啊~ AHQ was ridiculously dominant in the summer split of the LMS. As an example, they lost more games (4) to EDG at MSI, than they did in the entirety of the summer split and playoffs (3). Also, AHQ surprised many when the defeated both TSM and FNC handily during the group stage at MSI. What they need to prove this year is not only was their MSI performance not a fluke, but also that they are a top team in the world. AHQ以令人咋舌的態勢統治了LMS的夏季聯賽，舉例來說，他們在MSI輸給了EDG4場，已經比整個夏季聯賽外加季後賽的三場敗績來的還要多場了。且也出人意料的在MSI 的小組賽中擊退了TSM跟FNC，今年他們將要證明的是在MSI的表現不只是曇花一現，而且也是世界的頂尖隊伍。 Ziv fits this story perfectly. This is a player who isn’t well known internationally, but LMS caster Clement Chu calls “the best player on AHQ.” Everyone who plays against Ziv raves about his abilities as a player. Despite Maokai being by far his most played champion in summer (13 plays) he hardly ever loses lane, and has exquisite teamfight positioning and TP timing. He exerts a large amount of control and pressure from the top lane, and it will be fascinating to see how he adapts to the new top lane at worlds. Ziv完全符合AHQ的故事，他也不是個世界知名的選手，但LMS的主播克萊門萌萌讚譽他為AHQ中最好的選手，所有跟他對弈過的選手都為他的實力而傾倒(?)雖然茂凱是夏季中他最常使用的角色(13場)他幾乎不曾輸線，且有著極佳的團戰走位跟傳送時機，他的上路施加著龐大的控制能力和壓力，在世界賽中看他如何適應這全新的上路生態會是很精彩可期的。 Mountain is a fairly recent addition to AHQ’s starting roster. Throughout most of the spring split, Albis was jungle and GreenTea was support. Right before AHQ made their run through the playoffs to qualify for MSI, Mountain stepped in as jungle, Albis moved to support, and GreenTea moved into a coaching position. This player swap worked wonders. As the split has progressed, Mountain has shown dominating play on tank junglers such as Gragas, Rek’Sai and Ekko, and is a big reason why AHQ has been so dominant. 山哥算是近期才排入AHQ的先發之中的人，整個春季賽中都是由小夜夜擔任打野而綠茶擔任輔助，就在AHQ闖過了季後賽而取得MSI資格前，阿山扛下了打野一職，小夜夜轉任輔助而綠茶轉入教練群，這次的替換帶來了奇蹟，隨著聯賽的進行，阿山展現了他用坦型打野的統治力，諸如古拉格斯、雷克薩跟艾克，同時也是AHQ 在聯賽中狂掃一切的主因之一。 Westdoor. Oh Westdoor. He is easily the most famous player on this team, as well as the most hyped. Generally the hype is justified, as he has shown up in a big way during Worlds in 2014, as well as at MSI this year. However, it’s important to note that Westdoor is not the only story for this team. He has a -2.4 CS differential @10 on average, due to his frequent roaming early to create plays. Additionally, many LMS watchers actually peg Maple as the best mid-laner in the LMS, not Westdoor. Traditionally teams throw 2-3 bans at Westdoor per game, partly due to his proficiency on TF and Fizz, but also due to his relatively limited champion pool outside of that small set. One boon for Westdoor is he has added Diana into his champion pool, and also found significant success on Ahri this year. Westdoor is certainly unique, and his champion pool as well as skill will be heavily tested by Rookie, Febiven, and Incarnati0n in this group. 西門阿西門，他很容易就成為隊上的風雲人物，同時也是最被廣為宣傳的，一般來說那些吹捧都是很中肯的，就如他在2014世界賽中，以及今年的MSI中所呈現的內容。但要注意的是，他並不是隊上唯一的焦點，他為了製造機會，因為時常跑線的原因而造成每10個CS數中就有2.4個小兵差距(按：原文@10沒有單位，應該不是每10分鐘所以我個人理解是每10個小兵就會漏2.4個，可能要問問更熟的人)，這點是要注意的。一般來說，其他隊會花掉2到3個BAN來針對西門，部分是因為他的逆命跟菲斯的能力，更有部分是因為因為他的英雄口袋相對來說比較淺，其中一項利多是西門將黛安娜納入了他的後宮(?)中，且今年阿漓也用得頗成功，西門絕對是獨一無二的，而他的口袋深淺以及技巧將會面對Rookie跟Febiven的沉重考驗。 AN. While most teams have their mid-laner as the highest % of teams damage on average, AHQ has AN with that title. This is partially due to Westdoor favoring assassins over high damage mages, but also due to how many resources AHQ routinely funnels AN’s way. It is rather common in AHQ games to have 5v5 scuffles in the bottom lane pre-10 minutes, because so many ganks are focused down bottom, as well as Westdoor already having a propensity for roaming. Additionally, AN’s mechanics are strong. Most if not all LMS players also rank themselves in Korean soloQ, and AN was once as high as the top 10. These factors are particularly evident in the results. Despite having the majority of his regular season games on Sivir, he still averaged a +11.6 CSD at 10 minutes, which is extremely high. 小安，當大多的隊伍傷害輸出比例最高的會是中路的時候，AHQ則是把位置給了小安，這可能是因為西門偏好刺客型的中路，但也可能是因為AHQ將資源灌注在小安的身上，對AHQ的比賽來說，前十分鐘就在下路爆發激烈的5打5是很常見的，GANK常常會關注下路，而西門又以不斷遊走為名，而且小安的技巧強悍，最重要的，不只是LMS聯賽，就連韓國SoloQ天梯他也曾是在頂尖十名內的玩家。這些因素就是造成這樣結果的證據，儘管大部分他的季賽都使用了希維爾，他仍然取得了相當高的每10分鐘11.6個的CS數。 --

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#1KBsCfaG (LoL) 負痢葉糗爺紀行之我就早知道..呃? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.237.159.78 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1442377074.A.F37.html 因為求速度所以排版比較亂...然後翻譯可能比較鬆散這樣如果有翻錯的請推文告知，謝謝。另外他分析的AHQ取得1234名的方式或原因我也正在翻譯 ※ 編輯: ailanous (36.237.159.78), 09/16/2015 12:21:04 How they finish 1st If their dominating LMS performance carries into the group stage, and they can outpace the other teams in the group. 如何取得小組第一如果他們狂掃LMS的表現持續發威，他們有可能擊敗其他隊伍成為分組第一。 AHQ is similar to FNC in the sense that they have been so overwhelmingly dominant in their region that it’s hard to gauge how they respond to adversity. In the LMS, Westdoor has been able to roam early without being punished and AHQ has been able to apply heavy pressure to bottom lane and get AN ahead. If they can execute on their core strategy, and if Westdoor can get rolling on assassins against the powerful mid laners in this group, AHQ can take 1st. AHQ跟FNC有點類似，他們都在自己的賽區展現了全面性的統治力，也因此很難看到他們面對劣勢的表現，在LMS中，西門可以不受到制裁的不斷遊走，也因此 AHQ能夠給對面下路不斷施加壓力，如果他們能執行他們的核心策略且西門能用刺客對抗分組中的強力中路們，並滾起雪球AHQ就有可能第一。 How they finish 2nd By replicating their MSI group stage performance. During the MSI group stage, AHQ defeated FNC and TSM, and lost to EDG and SKT. Essentially they beat the best teams from Europe and NA, and lost to the best teams from Korea and China. In this group, there is no Korean team. Fnatic will be the biggest obstacle to place 2nd in this group, as they are MUCH improved since MSI. AHQ is also an improved team. With an entire split to solidify Mountain as their jungler and Albis as support, AHQ has been able to refine their playstyle and get into a good groove. If they maintain that improvement heading into this group, they can take 2nd. 如何取得第二再現他們的MSI小組賽的表現在MSI的階段，AHQ擊敗了FNC跟TSM然後敗給了EDG跟SKT，他們擊退了歐洲、北美的最強隊伍但輸給了中韓的最強隊伍，在這個小組中，沒有韓國隊，FNC就會是他們取得第二的最大障礙，而FN自MSI後已經大幅的進步了，AHQ當然也有進步，整個季賽中小山跟夜夜的打野、輔助的表現，AHQ更加精煉了他們的打法且找到了適合的步調，如果他們能維持這樣的進展，他們能夠取得分組第二。 How they finish 3rd If Westdoor is punished, and AN is unable to get a snowball going from bot-lane teamfights. It all depends on the map play and how AHQ’s lanes matchup against the talent in this group. Normally for AHQ, Ziv is a rock in the top lane, and Westdoor is able to freely roam to create opportunities. Against Huni and Zz1tai, it is questionable whether or not Ziv can be a reliable winner in lane. Additionally, if Westdoor is under heavy pressure in the mid lane, AN and Albis may be left to their own devices to get an advantage, and may not even have the attention of their jungler Mountain since he may need to assist other lanes. 如何會落到第三西門被痛擊且小安滾不起來雪球(按:個人覺得這似乎有連動到XD) 一切都依靠AHQ的地圖意識以及如何對陣本小組中的其他強者，一般對AHQ來說， Ziv是上路的磐石，而西門能夠自由的遊走來製造機會，但是對上Huni跟姿態的話 Ziv能否在線上得優勢是令人質疑的，更甚者，西門中路的壓力更是不輕鬆，小安跟夜夜可能必須靠自己來取得優勢，甚至可能沒辦法仰賴將狗平常給予下路的關照。 How they finish 4th If the LMS has been weak this whole time, and their performance at MSI was a fluke. Or, if they crumble under the pressure of being the LMS’s #1 team and tilt after a slow start to the group. This result would also only result if the playstyle problems outlined above come to fruition. While the LMS had resurgence this year, with the move to a fully localized league, there is still a chance that AHQ isn’t used to playing against world class teams. The LMS is very much AHQ – and then everyone else. While AHQ is unlikely to finish 4th, as this group is mainly a 3 horse race, there is the chance of a collapse which would leave them in 4th. 怎樣會慘到第四假設LMS真的如此疲弱不堪，而他們在MSI的表現也只是曇花一現，或者，他們在身為LMS第一的壓力下崩潰且停滯不前了，就會如此。這樣的結果僅會出現在上述的隊伍走向全都失敗的情況，因為LMS本季轉為完全的地區聯賽，AHQ可能還不惜段對陣世界上的其他強權，AHQ基本上就是代表著 LMS(按:閃電狼哭哭)然後才是其他的隊伍，當然，AHQ不太可能第四名，所以基本上這小組就是三匹馬的競賽，但也有小機會他們崩潰然後摔到第四名。 My prediction: 3rd This is honestly a very close call. I think the LMS region is quite strong, and I was ready to write AHQ into the quarterfinals had they drawn even a slightly easier group. I think Westdoor’s limited playstyle, while strong and polished, can be punished. I also think that their winning bot and top lane that they leverage so well in the LMS won’t be there to leverage against the competition in this group. Because of that, I don’t see them advancing into the knockout stage. 3rd place. 我的預測：第三名其實這相當接近，我認為LMS聯賽相當的強，且如果他們抽到簡單易點的組我也已經準備好要在四強中寫下AHQ了，我覺得西門比較單調的遊戲風格雖然強悍且突出，但是可以被迎面痛擊的，且也認為在LMS中呈現的強勢下路跟上路在本小組的競爭中很難再現，也因此，我覺得他們會落入第三名。 ※ 編輯: ailanous (36.237.159.78), 09/16/2015 12:45:13

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