Re: [外絮] Chawy FB (很長)消失

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※ 引述《GOD5566GOD (o'_'o)》之銘言: : https://www.facebook.com/ChawyXL/posts/1110021652347319 : Chawy : 4 分鐘前 : Hi everyone, i'm really sorry but to break this news to you. I have been : banned from participating in any LoL tournaments for a period of time (not too sure : how long the ban would be yet), because of an event of elo boosting done : during March 2014. : For those who are interested in my part of the story, do continue reading : below. 嗨大家,我感到非常抱歉,但還是必須給你們知道此消息。我已經被所有的lol比賽 禁賽一段時間(不確定多久),因為代打。 對於那些對我部分故事有興趣的人,請繼續看下去。 : I have been playing competitive since I was 14. I chose to take this path even : though its not the smartest choice being born in Singapore, a country where : E-sports is not as recognized. My passion for gaming and the desire to win : made me who I am today. 我14歲就在玩競賽類遊戲。雖然這不是在新加坡的最佳選擇,我依然選擇此道路。我對於 遊戲的熱情及贏的渴望造就了今天的我。 : I started playing LoL when I was first invited by Riot to take part in 2010 : WCG and ended up getting 3rd place. I switched from DotA / DotA 2 to LoL because : at that time, LoL had way more tournaments each year, and I really enjoyed : playing LoL. 在我被Riot邀請參加2010WCG時我開始玩LOL,最後拿下第三名。 此時我從DOTA/DOTA2改換到LOL,LOL此時每年有更多的比賽,而且我非常享受玩LOL。 : During early 2012 when SGS ( Team Singapore Sentinels ) was formed, they : started trailing for players on our server. Being in SGS was like a dream come : true, its the first ever professional team I know of to get paid to play. Many : people would do anything just to get into that team. Sadly, they didn't chose : me because I was serving my NS ( National Service ). I was really depressed : because most would say I was the best player in our region but yet I was not : picked or even trailed. I didn't gave up then. I starting forming my own team : with friends I met at Solo Queue. I took part in every tournaments and ended : up getting 2nd every time, only losing to SGS. But at the same time, we managed : to take some games off SGS. That was when SGS saw my talent and offered me a : slot. 在2012早期,SGS成立了,他們開始訓練玩家。當時在SGS就像夢想實現。玩家會做任何 事情為了進去SGS。難過地,他們沒有選擇我因為我那時候在NS服兵役。我非常失望因為我 認為我在新加坡最猛(線上and線下)但是我沒被選擇。我那時沒有放棄。我開始和我的朋友 們組我自己的隊伍。我參加所有的比賽而且都得到第二名,僅輸給SGS。但是同時,我們 努力的拿下跟SGS的一些比賽。因此SGS看到我的天賦而且邀請我。 : At first I was offered an monthly salary way more than the original 5 members, : of course I gladly accepted. Luckily for me, after I completed my basic : training in NS, I was posted to a vocation where I just have to work every 8am : -5.30pm. I rushed to our training room in Garena office every evening once I'm : released from camp, train till late night, and then return home, and continue : training. It was like my dream came true. Little did I know, the management : told me few days later that I would not be receiving a single cent because of : their budget. I was shocked, but since I was serving my NS, and we are not : allowed to have any extra allowance outside of NS, I accepted it. I treated : playing in SGS not as a job, but as doing something I loved. I wake up every 6 : in the morning, rush to camp, end work at 5.30, rush to Garena, end trainings : at 10-11pm, rush home, more solo trainings till 2-3am, sleep, repeat. That was : my daily routine for over a year. 一開始我薪水比其他成員還多,超爽。在我NS服務完後,我就到G社Gaming house作訓練。 當時就好像我的夢想實現。過了幾天後,幹,管理階層告訴我我不會收到$$$因為他們預算 吃緊。我很幹,但是由於此時我正在NS服兵役,所以我不能在NS外有其他的$$收入,所以我 接受了。我把在SGS練習當作作我熱愛的事情,而不是工作。 : Many people thought that hey, Chawy confirm gets way higher pay than his other : teammates because of his performance, but the truth is, I was NOT paid. I had : to pay for my own transport, my meals, everything, using the allowance I get : from NS ( S$400+ a month). I discussed with my teammates and they agreed to : each pass me S$50 every month which concludes to S$250 per month. : So why did I stayed even though I was not paid? Simple, I always dream of : becoming a pro player, and SGS was the very first step. I was given a lvl 30 : Taiwan server account and I was contented with that. I get to play against : players like GodJJ, Toyz, Westdoor and so many other really good players. : Luckily for me, I got top 5 ranks in ranked in Taiwan server multiple times. : I was given the same monthly pay as the rest of my teammates only after I : completed my NS, which was after September 2013. It was never easy working the : hardest, giving the most, performing the best but yet receiving the least. : Around February 2014, I left SGS. Our team results were not good and I was : tired. I thought I would never have a chance to play on the main stage ever : again. That was the time when this 'friend' approached me to boost his : account. 很多人都認為:hey,chawy邱三小,領比別人多。但是我實際上沒領$$。我必須為我的交通 費,我的三餐,其他等所支付$$,用我在NS所賺的 (400+/月)。我跟隊員商量,他們決定 施捨我每個月50元 總共250。 所以為啥我留下了雖然我沒有$$,很簡單,我有成為職業選手的夢想。 我得到一個台服30等的帳號,然後開始訓練。我得以跟JJJJJJJJJ及熊王,王爺,及其他 玩家對抗。我多次拿到RANK前5。2013 9月後我開始得到跟其他成員的$$。作最多,給最 多,拿最少決不簡單(台灣勞工)。2014 2月,我離開SGS,因為我們隊伍太爛了,我累了。 我認為我不會再有機會在一樣的舞台上。這時就有朋友找我代打賺$$$。 : Of course I accepted. I had no income, no future, no nothing. I had to earn : what I can. Even though its just a small amount, I did it. : It was after that that TPA contacted my then manager, saying they want to : trail : me. I was delighted, I saw a glimpsed of hope. After a long discussion with my : family, I decided to come to TPA. 所以我開始代打。我沒有收入,未來,啥都沒。我必須盡我所能賺錢。雖然這是微薄的 收入,我還是做了。之後,TPA找我,我很高興又看到一絲希望。 在跟我家人討論後,我決定去TPA。 : The 'friend' whom I elo boosted for, didn't pay me because he said he had no : money. I didn't mind since I was already in TPA having a stable income, but a : tragedy striked during late 2014. My investment with my brother failed badly : costing me to lose around S$10,000. ( I had quite a bit of winnings from DotA/ : DotA2 ). It was then I started going around collecting money from people I : lent to, and from that 'friend' I 'worked' for. But he ignored me, not wanting to : return me, and even telling me it was a long time ago, he doesn't even play : league now. I was mad, I kept pestering him and I guess I made him mad. So mad : that this 'friend' reported to Riot and Garena that I elo boosted. : I had come a long way in my career, and I would say this year is my peak. Even : though TPA results are not as good anymore, but I kept improving and improving,hoping to show the world what i'm capable of. Just as we're preparing for : World Championship 2015 qualifiers, THIS had to happen. I was left speechless, and : heart broken. Never had I thought this would happen to me, and that my career : would end this close. 找我代打的朋友沒給我$$因為他也沒$$$。我不介意因為我已經要去TPA啦,當公務員 但是2014我跟我兄弟的投資失敗了,10000$$飛了。所以我開始找我認識的人收錢,包括 找我代打的朋友,但是他不甩我。我一直盧他,我猜我讓他不爽了,所以他就跟G社跟RIOT說 我有代打。我的職業生涯中我走了很久,我認為今年是我的高峰。雖然TPA不再S2一樣了, 但是我繼續增進,為了2015世界賽,但是我被抓了。聽到被禁賽我心碎了。 我從沒想過這會發生在我身上,而且我的職業生涯將要結束。 : I'm sorry for disappointing everyone supporting me out there all these time. : I'm even more sorry for letting my team down, including my managers, coach, : and translator. I never expect this to happen and I'm the same, or even more : disappointed than anyone else is. : Sorry. 我很抱歉讓所有支持我的人失望。我感到非常抱歉讓我的隊伍要應付之後的賽事。 我從不期望這會發生,而且我也一樣,比其他人更難過,抱歉。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 118.165.36.195 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/LoL/M.1438503350.A.63B.html

08/02 16:16, , 1F
請給分
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第一個交卷給推
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乾 推錯
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08/02 16:18, , 6F
所以是被朋友背刺了...
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08/02 16:19, , 8F
Chawy太慘了
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08/02 16:19, , 9F
這朋友不錯阿 夠狠我喜歡
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08/02 16:19, , 10F
自己都是公務員心態了 不知道該說啥 QQ
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3
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都是they的錯
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08/02 16:19, , 13F
給個87分
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08/02 16:19, , 14F
大致對,但是後面有錯,他是說他開始去收帳不是去
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借錢
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謝謝指正 ※ 編輯: a24285293 (118.165.36.195), 08/02/2015 16:21:17

08/02 16:20, , 16F
西門被TT禁賽只能去網咖 他還能打比賽已經很好了...
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08/02 16:20, , 17F
這篇滿口語的 推
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08/02 16:20, , 18F
'由於我之前有在NS服務'應是'因我當時正在NS服役'?
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謝謝指正

08/02 16:20, , 19F
所以說打完後再去催錢啊=w=
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08/02 16:21, , 20F
所以沒被檢舉還會繼續蒙混下去耶
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※ 編輯: a24285293 (118.165.36.195), 08/02/2015 16:22:55

08/02 16:21, , 21F
這朋友很像工作室 幫朋友代打要收錢
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08/02 16:22, , 22F
既然決定代打賺錢就去做代打的工作就好了 跑去TPA幹
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樓下請給分
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因為代打了朋友不給錢阿
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08/02 16:23, , 26F
他是去收借出去的錢 不是去借錢
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是跟欠錢的討
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謝謝指正

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求空耳翻譯
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※ 編輯: a24285293 (118.165.36.195), 08/02/2015 16:25:01

08/02 16:24, , 29F
那是自己被騙識人不清的問題 但你不能說 因為我代打
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沒收到錢 這時有職業隊找上門 那我就改做這個吧
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08/02 16:26, , 31F
去打架收數阿 阿不是很壯很邱
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誰能預知不久後TPA會找上他= =...
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08/02 16:28, , 33F
不不不 不是預知的問題 代打的事實存在後去打職業隊
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08/02 16:29, , 34F
那就是對TPA隊友和官方有刻意隱匿的意圖
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我認為他是覺得離開SGS之後覺得不會再碰職業了就去代打, 誰知道TPA找上他,他就隱藏他曾代打,之後老東家不爽就去抓他了 ※ 編輯: a24285293 (118.165.36.195), 08/02/2015 16:31:14

08/02 16:30, , 35F
如果今天自己主動向官方自首 可以避免在這麼關鍵的
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時刻爆出這種事
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08/02 16:32, , 37F
At你再看一次..2014二月離開sgs,沒收入沒未來,
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職業生涯要結束了 .0.
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08/02 16:33, , 39F
對電競路絕望才被慫恿代打..誰知道tpa不久後找上門
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我知道沒收入沒未來 那就繼續聽信損友做代打就好了
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08/02 16:34, , 41F
你也知道自己代打過 何必接收TPA邀約 搞到現在這樣
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08/02 16:35, , 42F
說實在的 也沒這麼嚴重啦 6個月而已 一下就過去了
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08/02 16:36, , 43F
我只知道現在更能理解之前雷神事件無奈
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但一堆人牽拖到G社就很北爛,都沒在用腦子想的
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chawy ... 真的要慎選朋友啊...
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被朋友背刺GG
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有實力 卻跟了一輩子的爛隊友 還被爛朋友背刺 GG
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08/02 16:58, , 48F
如果仔細看內文 會看到其實DOTA有賺到錢
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08/02 16:59, , 49F
然後失業一個月就代打 這樣很難說服人吧
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本來以為離開SGS沒梗了 誰知道TPA找上門 但已代打
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08/02 17:06, , 51F
嗯? 所以要幾個月 都覺得沒希望在打職業了
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08/02 17:23, , 52F
樓上的意思是要預設每個退役都代打就是了?
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不是說投資失敗?表示DOTA賺的錢都投資了吧
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媽的 廢物R社
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建議 可以找 衝撞妮妮的那位學一下做牛肉麵
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08/02 18:28, , 56F
退役如果不能開實況的話當然只剩代打 不然要幹嘛
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要玩遊戲同時至少養活自己只有選擇代打 賺個打工錢
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他有說他是公務員?
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活該
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08/02 23:19, , 60F
只能說認了吧 雷神之前也是說為了家裡經濟
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08/02 23:30, , 61F
選手退役靠代打謀生,是個現實會存在的事實啊。對這
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個有實力也有興趣,又不累!想圓夢的這麼多。
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