Re: [閒聊] 看三小事情(也不小啦~)

看板Lakers作者時間15年前 (2009/06/16 16:20), 編輯推噓7(702)
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http://0rz.tw/nZndJ 翻一下原PO在Odom那段的那一篇 -- Finals Musings: In Praise of Odom, Gasol, Ariza 對Odom、Gasol跟Ariza的讚賞 So, the Lakers have won no. 15 as a franchise, no. 10 in L.A, and Phil Jackson has won a record-setting no. 10 to boot. Congratulations to the Forum Blue & Gold faithful. We examined Kobe Bryant's playoffs in depth last week, so let's take a look at some other Lakers in this post-championship hour. 湖人拿下了第15個,在L.A.的第十個總冠軍,Phil也拿下了創紀錄的第十個戒指。 恭喜湖人的同時來看看總決賽後的狀況吧。(謎:你喇塞掉了幾句話自己心裡有數) [第一部分:Odom] Let's take a second to remember a key moment in the Lakers' championship season, back in preseason in October when Phil Jackson commented that he wanted Lamar Odom to come off the bench - clearly the best move for the ballclub. Andrew Bynum could play a larger role as a starter, and the versatile Odom was the perfect guy to run the show for the second team, and of course he'd have plenty of opportunity to play with the first unit as well. 來回憶一下這一季吧。 在季前Phil提出了要Odom打板凳,而現在已經證實了是個最好的選擇。 Bynum打先發表現得更好,而活力充沛又天才橫溢的Odom則可以帶領補刀大隊。 當然,他(Odom)也可以跟先發打出良好的團隊表現。 A complicating factor was that Odom was due to be an unrestricted free agent at the end of '08-09. He averaged 15.9 - 9.8 - 4.8 in 39.3 minutes in 2006-07 and 14.2 - 10.6 - 3.5 in 37.9 minutes in 2007-08. These are impressive numbers that were sure to go down in lesser minutes off the bench, as they did: Odom averaged 11.3 - 8.2 - 2.6 in 29.7 minutes in 2008-09. Odom在08-09球季結束之後將成為自由球員。 在06-07球季他平均39.3分鐘15.9pt 9.8rb 4.8ast 07-08 37.9分鐘14.2pt 10.6rb 3.5ast 這一季,理所當然的他的數據會有所下降 08-09 29.7分鐘11.3pt 8.2rb 2.6ast Odom balked at the bench role ever so briefly in October, before accepting it with essentially not a peep of dissatisfaction the rest of the season (though the Bynum injury did get him back into the starting lineup for a good chunk of the season). Odom(不是Lamar喔XD)在十月還沒接受這件事情之前小小抱怨了一下。 不過他在Bynum受傷之後又回到先發打了一陣子。 By accepting a lesser role, Odom placed the good of the team ahead of his own self-interest in terms of trying to maximize the dollars he could command as a free agent, and that acceptance was a key element of L.A.'s season. 接受了替補角色,Odom把球隊的利益放在個人追求更好的合約前面, 而這成為了湖人這一季的關鍵。 It doesn't always work out like this (hello, Shawn Marion). It's not hard to imagine a situation where a player of Odom's caliber objected to the lesser minutes, and became disruptive enough to either affect his own production negatively or even force a trade. 事情不是總會那麼順利(哈囉,駭客XD)。 不難想像像Odom這樣的球員被壓縮上場時間時, 個人的表現一定會有負面影響,甚至會造成交易。 It is sacrifices like these, up and down the roster, that championships are made of. A key to San Antonio's run has been Manu Ginobili's sacrificing multiple All-Star appearances by accepting a role with lesser minutes, which keep his stats artificially low. And now Odom's acceptance of lesser minutes in a free-agent year has helped put L.A. over the top, and he deserves praise for it. 總冠軍是像這樣的犧牲帶來的。 馬刺的關鍵之一就是Manu接受了更少的上場時間, 也讓他的數據下降了一些,以至於無法在All-star露面。 而Odom的犧牲則是在合約年犧牲了自己的上場時間來幫助湖人奪冠, 他絕對值得因此而得到讚揚。 The irony is that - after performing so well in the Playoffs and becoming a champion - Odom may still command the same amount of money he would have with more minutes/better stats. 不過呢,在他季後賽傑出的表現之後, Odom依然可以要求那份他在更長的上場時間, 或打出更好的數據時該有的那份合約。 Also, did you notice that the dude shot .514 (18-35) from 3-point land for the Playoffs, after hitting on .320 (33-103) for the season and .314 for his career. Not just that, but he was .500 or better in each of L.A.'s four series. 另外,你不知道有沒有注意到這個生涯三分球平均31.4%,本季32%的大老二, 在季後在的命中率是51.4%。 不只這樣,他在這四輪之中都保持了50%以上的表現。 [第二部分:Gasol] After bearing the brunt of a ton of criticism following L.A.'s loss to Boston in the Finals last season, Pau Gasol has deservedly earned a ton of praise for his play in this year's Finals, in which he averaged 18.6 pts, 9.2 reb, 1.8 blk on .600 FG%. He's also received a lot of credit for his play on the defensive end in the Playoffs, up to and including his work on Dwight Howard in the Finals, again deserved. 在湖人去年輸給Boston之後被噓爆,Gasol今年總決賽的表現則可以被推爆。 他平均18.6分9.2籃板1.7火鍋加上了六成的命中率。 而在防守端,包含扛下Howard在內,他可以再被推爆一次。 All good, but there's one element of the big guy's game that I think has been overlooked: what about the way he runs the fast break?! Multiple times during the season and postseason, we've seen Gasol lead the fast break and finish by both making the correct decision and delivering the pass for an assist. How many 7-0 center-forwards in league history have been able to do this so readily? 以上都沒錯,但我想有一個很關鍵的元素是被忽略的:這傢伙跑快攻的方式呢!? 這一整季包含季後賽在內,我們不停看到Gasol跑快攻, 做出正確的攻擊以及準確的導球。 聯盟中有多少個七呎長人可以這樣搞的啊!? (謎:他是控衛啊) Watch the play at the :40 mark from the Game 5 highlight package - an Ariza steal which leads to an Odom-Gasol fast break that Lamar finishes spectacularly off the Pau assist. Think about that: a fast break executed successfully by a 4 man and a 5 man - how many teams have that kind of luxury? http://0rz.tw/iawVl 看看第五戰高光裡面0:40的時候Pau是怎麼在接到高以愛的抄截之後助攻給Odom。 有幾隊陣容中有榮幸擁有能這樣打球的大前/中鋒? Remember Shannon Brown's big dunk over the Birdman in the Western Conference Finals? Again, facilitated by Gasol leading the break like a textbook point guard: http://0rz.tw/IDmZ9 還記得咖啡小弟是怎麼爆扣鳥哥的嗎? 依舊是在Gasol像是個控衛一樣推快攻之後的成果。 And of course, there was the play from January that made Chris Webber's season - Gasol's Showtime-worthy through-the-legs / no-look underhanded pass to Ariza against the Jazz: http://0rz.tw/wbbfo 當然還有一月的時候讓Webber很嗨的那球, Gasol在對陣Jazz的時候跨下運球接了一個no-look低手傳球。 [第三部分:Trevor "高以愛" Ariza] As massive as the Pau Gasol trade was in leading to tonight's celebrations in Southern California, we also have to wonder if the Lakers win this series had Orlando not traded them Trevor Ariza for Brian Cook and Mo Evans in November, 2007. 湖人都靠搶劫啦(大誤)。 Ariza averaged 11 points and 6 rebounds in 37.8 minutes for the series, and was a huge factor in the Lakers' pivotal runs in both Game 4 and Game 5. Beyond that, Ariza's pick-and-roll defense against Hedo Turkoglu was a key to the entire series. Ariza平均37.8分鐘11分6籃板,同時也是G4跟G5的反擊小英雄。 不只如此,Ariza對應火槍打批肯肉...pick-and-roll的防守也是這一輪的關鍵。 Throughout the playoffs, the versatile combo of Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis caused huge matchup problems, but Ariza and Odom (with some good work by Gasol, as well) proved to be a perfect combo to shut down the Magic forwards. Ariza was especially important in constantly fighting through screens to disrupt the Turkoglu-Howard pick-and-roll which had been so lethal throughout the playoffs. Just having someone who could match up with Hedo was a big advantage for L.A., and it's amazing that the player was one who was essentially given to them by the opposition. 在整個季後賽之中,Turkoglu與Lewis的combo不停造成對手防守上的大麻煩, 但Ariza跟Gasol的配合則正好是最好的反擊之道。 Ariza不停的游過檔拆的人海來阻止Turkoglu的進攻。 擁有對付Turkoglu的人選是湖人的一大優勢, 而最驚奇的是這個人剛好是來自魔術。 (Ariza:老子不只偷客場,偷發球,偷快攻還偷你的戰術書。) Ariza's outstanding work against the team which had traded him for a song was the final example of how quiet, unsung transactions played fairly pivotal roles, especially in the Western Conference, in a postseason in which it became clear that there really isn't *that* much separating the best NBA team from the 8th-best team right now. Ariza對付老東家的表現就是安安靜靜打出好表現界的教科書。 尤其在西區冠軍戰,老大跟老八的差距看起來也沒「那麼」遠的時候。 You had Denver thriving with key contributions from Chris Andersen, Dahntay Jones, Anthony Carter and J.R. Smith, all players who were available essentially for nothing at one point. You had New Orleans devastated by a truly atrocious bench, even though solid bench players Brandon Bass, J.R. Smith and the Birdman were all Hornets at one time. You had Houston with Luis Scola and San Antonio without him (not too mention that the Spurs also could have Tiago Splitter and J.R. Smith if not for bad luck, essentially). Change those rosters around based only on the transactions that were largely unheralded at the time, and there would be significant change in the standings. 金塊有著Andersen,垃圾...不是,我是說Jones,A.C.跟J.R.的貢獻, 每個人也都有著相同目標。黃蜂被金塊的板凳碾爆, 雖然Brandon Bass, J.R.跟鳥哥都曾經是蜂群的一員。 火箭得到了曾經在馬刺的Scola(雖然Tiago Splitter跟J.R.都差點去馬刺)。 這些綠葉的更動都很突然,也造成了名次的變化。 And all this after a year in which the $50M+ signings of Brand and Baron Davis and Maggette from the previous summer barely made a ripple. Who knows, maybe a big Shaq-to-Cleveland trade would have a decisive impact on next season's result. But maybe it just might be someone signing for $1 million or less come August, too. Brand,土匪王跟Maggette的交易相對之下就沒什麼突出的結果。 天知道,搞不好Shaq去騎士的話會讓下一季風起雲湧。 但也許只是某個人明年會少拿一百萬。 At this point, it's really hard to fathom that, 20 months ago, Kobe Bryant's departure from the Lakers seemed like it could be imminent. The guy who was on the spot as much as anyone was Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak. In the next 4 months, Kupchak turned Kwame Brown, Brian Cook, Mo Evans, Javaris Crittenton and Marc Gasol into Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza, and the rest is Lakers history. 現在看起來真的很難想像Kobe在20個月之前還在嚷著要走人。 當時看起他跟庫胖一樣很想這麼做。 不過接下來四個月,神KB沒走,奶油桂花KB倒是走了, 緊接著的是Cook,Evans,Javaris Crittenton,獸弟, 而換來了攻守雙全砲加鎖與神偷下凡高以愛, 後面的...就都寫進《現代湖人史》了,期末考記得要背這一段。 [接下來不知道為什麼開始講魔術請容我喇塞亂翻] Before the Cleveland Cavaliers overreact to the disappointment of a second-round exit, they should take a deep breath and revisit the Orlando Magic's three-point shooting numbers for the playoffs, keeping in mind that the Magic hit at a .381 clip in the regular season: vs. PHI: .346 vs. BOS: .346 vs. CLE: .408 vs. LAL: .330 魔術的三分只有對防守三分最好的騎士投得準, 而一向守三分最爛的湖人卻覺醒了,囧。 Now, three-point shooting is not done in a vacuum - defense matters in terms of affecting looks at the arc, and I thought that L.A. did a nice job in 3-point D, starting with their nice work against the Turkoglu/Howard pick-and-roll, spearheaded by Ariza's tough play against Hedo. But the fact remains that the Magic knocked down a ton of open looks against the Cavs that they couldn't buy vs. the C's or the Lakers, and I think that Orlando's relative shooting from downtown really affected the course of all three of those series. 湖人擋下了三分騎士沒擋下,而魔術的三分球命中率足以影響戰果云云。 [然後講Amway球場] The celebrity-laden crowds at Staples Center for last year's Finals were justifiably criticized for being so lifeless. But tonight's crowd at Amway Arena in Orlando was significantly more pathetic, as it seemed to be comprised of 50% Lakers fans. I can't remember the last time an arena has been taken over by so many opposing fans in the Finals. A really pathetic showing by Magic fans tonight. 湖人球迷大舉進攻Amway占領了一半,魔術球迷在搞什麼。 -- "Satan's not in a guitar pick, he's inside all of us. In here, in your hearts. He's what makes us not want to go to work, or exercise, or tell the truth. He's what makes us want to party and have sex with each other all night long. He's that little voice in your mind that says 'Fuck you' to the people you hate." -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.7.59

06/16 16:27, , 1F
最後一點XD 難怪客場頒獎現場歡呼聲也不小
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06/16 16:40, , 3F
推 翻得很嗨XD
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06/16 16:40, , 4F
推 翻得不錯阿
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06/16 16:45, , 5F
推 翻得很嗨XD
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06/16 16:50, , 6F
推 翻得嘟嘟好
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06/16 16:54, , 7F
高以愛 XDD
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06/16 16:56, , 8F
第四戰輸掉後 很多魔術球迷把門票放上ebay了吧
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06/16 19:13, , 9F
確定有占到一半嗎? 打完時魔術迷已經走得差不多吧
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