[閒聊] The Contract Statuses of Jeremy Lin an

看板Knicks作者 (cty)時間12年前 (2012/02/09 17:20), 編輯推噓20(20021)
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http://knickerblogger.net/the-contract-statuses-of-jeremy-lin-and-landry-fields/ While obviously it is too soon to tell if Jeremy Lin is going to continue his standout play for the New York Knicks, I figured that there was enough uncertainty among the readers about Lin’s future status with the Knicks that I would detail the situation (and discuss Landry Fields’ future, as well). The Knicks are about to guarantee Jeremy Lin’s full salary, which is a one-year contract for roughly $800,000. Landy Fields, meanwhile, is on the second year of a two-year contract paying him roughly $800,000 a year. Both Lin and Fields will be free agents at the end of this season. Before I discuss anything, note that the Knicks are over the salary cap for next season but will not be at the luxury tax level. Therefore, they will have both the Bi-Annual Exception (roughly $2 million) and the full mid-level (roughly $5 million) as exceptions (on top of the ability to pay any free agent the minimum salary for that player, which is how they signed Baron Davis and Mike Bibby). Now on to Lin and Fields. The difference between the two is that Fields is eligible for the so-called “Early Bird Exception,” since he has played for the Knicks for two seasons. Lin, on the other hand, has only played one season for the Knicks and is therefore not eligible for any Bird Rights protections. As an Early Bird player, Fields can be offered a contract that starts at 175% of his current salary or anything up to the average NBA salary (which is roughly $5 million). They can pay Fields this money without affecting their mid-level exception. However, if Fields just signs a one year deal for anything up to the average salary, then the following season the Knicks will have his full Bird Rights and then can re-sign him to a salary larger than the average salary. It really depends on how well Fields plays the rest of the year to determine what kind of deal he signs. Lin, however, is not an Early Bird player since he has only played one year for the Knicks (while he is in the second year of a two-year deal, Bird Rights are re-set when a player is waived, as Lin has been twice. From Larry Coon’s invaluable Salary Cap FAQ, “If a player is waived and is claimed by another team before he clears waivers, then his Bird clock resets.” Had Lin been traded from the Warriors to the Knicks, he would have Early Bird status like Fields. Instead, the Warriors waived him, as did the Rockets). Therefore, if the Knicks want to re-sign him, they would have to use one of the following: 1. The Non-Bird Exception, where they could pay him up to 125% of his current salary (or roughly $1 million) (Non-Bird Exceptions are typically 120% of a player’s current salary, but since Lin is a restricted free agent, he is eligible for an extra 5% as a qualifying offer) 2. The Bi-Annual exception (which is roughly $2 million) or 3. However much of the mid-level (which is roughly $5 million) they would need to re-sign him. This is bad news in the sense that if Lin plays well enough to be worth more than the Bi-Annual exception, the Knicks would be in a position where they would have to dip into the mid-level to pay him and if they do that, well, it is hard enough to get Steve Nash to come play for just the mid-level, see what he would do if you couldn’t even offer him $3 million. It wouldn’t be pretty. One additional wrinkle is the ability of other teams to snatch Fields and Lin away from the Knicks. Both Fields and Lin are technically restricted free agents. However, due to the so-called “Gilbert Arenas provision,” other teams are limited in what they can offer Fields and Lin. They can only offer them up to the full mid-level. In the case of Fields, they Knicks would be able to match any offer and not have to touch their own mid-level exception (since they have Early Bird Rights on Fields). With Lin, though, they’d have to dip into their mid-level exception. So, as things stand, Fields is pretty much guaranteed to be a Knick next season if the Knicks want him (which they certainly seem to) while Lin…it is tricky. If he plays this well for the rest of the season, I suppose the Knicks would pretty much have to pick him over Steve Nash, right? In that case, if I’m Lin, I’m asking for the full mid-level for 2 years at which point he would be eligible for full Bird Rights (since he would have been on the Knicks for three straight years) and then he could get a substantial raise. I guess he could also be more conservative and just say the full mid-level period for five years. The trouble comes in if he plays somewhere in between great and mediocre. If he’s good enough to make more than the Bi-Annual exception (roughly $2 million) but not good enough that you’d want to pass on Steve Nash, then I guess they’d lose him if anyone offers him more than the Bi-Annual Exception. However, if the Knicks want to keep him at all costs (as in using the entire mid-level on him), they can. It’s going to be interesting to see how it turns out. Thanks to the man, the myth, the legend Larry Coon and his Salary Cap FAQ for the ground rules of this discussion. Read them for some other tricky stuff about the Gilbert Arenas provision that have not, to my knowledge, ever come up before so I didn’t address them but I guess they could (like how a team can backload a contract for a player like Fields so that the overall deal could be 4 years/$40 million). EDITED TO ADD: Despite saying in his FAQ “If a player is waived and is claimed by another team before he clears waivers, then his Bird clock resets, ” Larry Coon now says that if that happens, a player does not lose his Bird Rights. If that is the case, then the Knicks would, in fact, own Lin’s Early Bird Rights. In which case they can do the same thing with Lin that they can do with Fields, which is to say that he can be signed for any amount up to the mid-level salary without having to touch the Knicks’ own mid-level exeception (and other teams would be limited to offering the mid-level for Lin, so the Knicks could match if they wish). -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.120.54.76

02/09 17:35, , 1F
簡單來說 尼克付全額中產的話~就少了挖NASH之類的機會
02/09 17:35, 1F

02/09 17:46, , 2F
It will be interesting if Lin keeps playing that well.
02/09 17:46, 2F

02/09 17:46, , 3F
開雙年給他
02/09 17:46, 3F

02/09 18:04, , 4F
想ㄉ美
02/09 18:04, 4F

02/09 18:13, , 5F
沒中產!!所以..沒辦法簽JR過來了嗎?? 也沒錢再補強了??
02/09 18:13, 5F

02/09 18:14, , 6F
最後一段是重點 如果有早鳥就肯定不用動到中產了
02/09 18:14, 6F

02/09 18:16, , 7F
Lin和Fields將變成自由球員,受限制自由球員
02/09 18:16, 7F

02/09 18:17, , 8F
因為0號大將軍條款,別隊可以開給他們全額中產的條件
02/09 18:17, 8F

02/09 18:18, , 9F
我們可以留下Fields而不動用到我們的全額中產
02/09 18:18, 9F

02/09 18:19, , 10F
Lin就不行了,但是別隊開給他全額中產,我們可以用我們的跟進
02/09 18:19, 10F

02/09 18:20, , 11F
簡短翻譯 應該沒翻錯吧
02/09 18:20, 11F

02/09 18:20, , 12F
但是最後一段...
02/09 18:20, 12F

02/09 18:20, , 13F
剛好沒看最後一段XD
02/09 18:20, 13F

02/09 18:23, , 14F
Warriors Waive Jeremy Lin Dec 09, 2011 6:26 PM EST
02/09 18:23, 14F

02/09 18:25, , 15F
Claimed off of waivers on 12/27/11 , Waived 12/25/11
02/09 18:25, 15F

02/09 18:27, , 16F
12/9 勇士裁掉,12號被火箭簽走 ,27號被尼克簽走
02/09 18:27, 16F

02/09 18:28, , 17F
在看了一整篇英文之後, 我剛是最後兩段都沒看 XD
02/09 18:28, 17F

02/09 18:29, , 18F
搞的我好亂阿 XD
02/09 18:29, 18F

02/09 18:30, , 19F
26日被火箭揮棄吧
02/09 18:30, 19F

02/09 18:30, , 20F
估計..有早鳥XD
02/09 18:30, 20F

02/09 18:32, , 21F
要看是不是在clear waiver前撿走? 時限48小時?
02/09 18:32, 21F

02/09 18:32, , 22F
科 不太清楚clear waiver這方面的規則
02/09 18:32, 22F

02/09 18:35, , 23F
Coon's FAQ Q53 8月15號到正規球季結束之間48小時
02/09 18:35, 23F

02/09 18:36, , 24F
於其他時間被釋出的球員則維持waiver狀態10天
02/09 18:36, 24F

02/09 18:36, , 25F
冏XD
02/09 18:36, 25F

02/09 18:36, , 26F
我的表情符號用的好奇怪..
02/09 18:36, 26F

02/09 18:39, , 27F
現在尼克隊的人氣,還真不習慣......
02/09 18:39, 27F

02/09 18:41, , 28F
幾天前我還在臭罵冷笑話滾蛋..現在有點怕他真的哪天被炒
02/09 18:41, 28F

02/09 18:42, , 29F
本來以為會是七天 結果是48小時..
02/09 18:42, 29F

02/09 18:43, , 30F
現在等不及完全體的knicks了啦...進攻效率應該翻倍了吧
02/09 18:43, 30F

02/09 19:04, , 31F
我會說他沒早鳥 主要就Lin是被Waive 所以實際是有鳥嗎?
02/09 19:04, 31F

02/09 19:19, , 32F
不太懂 總之不能打完季末再好好處理Lin的合約嗎
02/09 19:19, 32F

02/09 19:20, , 33F
我還是少數支持冷笑話走路的人嗎XDXD
02/09 19:20, 33F

02/09 19:21, , 34F
應該是沒有,就算有Waive也看要看條件決定是否有早鳥
02/09 19:21, 34F

02/09 19:30, , 35F
還有魔術麥格雷迪大大
02/09 19:30, 35F

02/09 19:53, , 36F
等全員歸隊後應該是很值得期待,在給冷笑話一點機會吧。
02/09 19:53, 36F

02/09 20:51, , 37F
這等夏天在來煩惱吧XDD 先拼進季後賽ˋˇˊ
02/09 20:51, 37F

02/09 22:13, , 38F
有了會打擋拆的LIN 戰績再打不好 冷笑話就該走人了
02/09 22:13, 38F

02/10 10:42, , 39F
我覺得就算下半季戰績帶起來冷笑話續留機會也不大..
02/10 10:42, 39F

02/10 11:19, , 40F
看氛圍吧 突然拉個10連勝 球迷愛他都來不及了
02/10 11:19, 40F

02/10 11:33, , 41F
我覺得笑笑湯會想把WALSH的人都弄走..
02/10 11:33, 41F
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