Re: [爆卦] 衛報: 拒絕上海復星的BNT疫苗完全是政治考量已回收

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/14/how-taiwan-struggle-for-covid-vaccines-is-inflaming-tensions-with-china 以上是偏DPP說中國從中作梗的說法 就不譯了 反正民眾大外宣也聽多了 以下開始是不利DPP的 If Taiwan accepted Chinese vaccines it would be the political “ kiss of death for the DPP [Taiwan’s ruling party]”, Thompson said. “It’s quite likely China would take some sort of gratuitous swipe … see it as a capitulation or recognition of Beijing’s superiority.” 負責管理與中國和台灣雙邊關係的前美國國防部官員德魯· 湯普森表示,如果台灣接受了中國疫苗,這將是「民進黨 (台灣執政黨) 的政治「死亡之吻」。「中國很可能會採取某 種無理由的攻擊……將其視為對北京優勢的投降或承認。」 China said Fosun – the Shanghai-based manufacturer with exclusive regional production rights for Pfizer/BioNTech – had offered to supply Taiwan, but Taiwan had refused. 中國表示,擁有輝瑞/BioNTech 獨家區域生產權的上海製造 商復星曾提出向台灣供貨,但台灣拒絕了。 Thompson said there were scientific and transparency concerns about China’s vaccines, which made it unsurprising and potentially sensible for Taiwan to reject an offer of Chinese-developed vaccines. But if the Fosun offer is legitimate, refusing it is “entirely political”. 湯普森說,中國的疫苗存在科學和透明度面的顧慮,因此台 灣拒絕提供中國開發的疫苗並不意外而且合理。但如果復星 的提議是合法的,拒絕提議則「完全是政治性的」。 “Pfizer and BioNTech have a huge incentive to ensure that the Fosun product is equivalent, so I would think there is no concern,” he said. “There’s no reason not to take it.” 「輝瑞和 BioNTech 有重大誘因來確保復星產品是等效的 ,所以我認為沒什麼顧慮,」他說。「沒有理由不接受。」 Polling has shown Taiwanese people are largely opposed to receiving a Chinese-made vaccine, but not necessarily to a foreign vaccine produced in China, like the Fosun/BioNtech one. 民意調查顯示,台灣人在很大程度上反對中國製造的疫苗, 但不一定反對在中國生產的外國疫苗,例如復星/BioNtech。 The push for domestic vaccines 推動國產疫苗 Approval ratings for Taiwan’s president, Tsai Ing-wen, have plummeted from more than 70% to about 40% in the 12 months since her re-election, and her government is taking political heat for the outbreak and the vaccine shortage. 台灣總統蔡英文的支持度在她連任後的 12 個月內從超過 70% 暴跌至約 40%,她的政府正在為疫情爆發和疫苗短缺承 受政治壓力。 Before the current outbreak in Taiwan, so few members of priority groups were booking shots that authorities briefly opened vaccination up to the general population. But now community appetite is bigger than available supplies. 在台灣目前的疫情爆發之前,幾乎沒有優先群體的成員預約 疫苗注射,以至於當局短暫向一般人群開放疫苗接種。但現 在社群消化量大於供應量。 The health minister, Chen Shih-chung, said Taiwan hoped to have 60% of the population receive at least one shot by October – a target that requires about 12m doses and depends on no more delayed orders and on the production of domestic vaccines. 衛福部長陳時中表示,台灣希望在 10 月之前讓 60% 的人口 至少接受一劑注射──此目標需要約 1200 萬劑,且取決於 不再延遲的外國訂單及國內疫苗的生產。 On Thursday, Chen said Taiwan had held talks with AstraZeneca to produce its vaccine but that the talks had fallen through. He previously said Taiwan was in talks with US companies about making their vaccines, though he did not name them. 週四,陳表示台灣與阿斯利康曾就生產疫苗一事進行對談, 但對談已告吹。他此前曾表示,台灣正在與美國公司就生產 疫苗進行談判,但他沒有透露公司名稱。 Last week, a member of Taiwan’s vaccine review board who had recently resigned accused Tsai of putting undue pressure on the panel to approve domestic vaccines still in trial stage, when she publicly announced she expected doses to be available by July. 上週,一位最近辭職的台灣疫苗審查委員會成員指控蔡對委 員會施加不當壓力,要求核准仍處於試驗階段的國產疫苗 ──當時她公開宣布,她預計將在 7 月之前供應疫苗。 Under pressure, the government has said private organisations can import vaccines, though this is yet to happen and the offer is complicated by the fact that most vaccine manufacturers prefer to deal directly with governments. 迫於壓力,政府已表示私人機構可以進口疫苗,儘管這件事 仍未發生,而且由於大多數疫苗製造商較願意直接與政府打 交道,此一提議變得更為複雜。 The opposition Kuomintang party and several politicians at the local county level have sought to capitalise on the vaccine difficulties, leading to political slanging matches. But Lev Nachman, a visiting scholar at the National Taiwan University, said it still seemed “in the DPP’s electoral interest not to get any China vaccines”. 反對黨國民黨和地方縣市級的幾位政治人物試圖利用這次的 疫苗困境,從而導致雙方政治謾罵的對戰。但國立台灣大學 客座學者列夫納赫曼表示,但現狀看來似乎仍是「不接受任 何中國疫苗符合民進黨的選舉利益」。 Vaccine doses are being steadily administered to priority groups, and a domestic vaccine candidate announced it would seek emergency approval on Thursday. Nachman said these developments might keep the DPP’s head above the political water, but if not, the question of accepting Chinese vaccines could become more realistic. 疫苗劑量正在穩定投藥給優先群體,國內疫苗候選廠商宣布 將在周四尋求緊急核准。納赫曼表示,這些事態發展可能會 使民進黨免於陷身政治風暴,但如果不能,接受中國疫苗可 能會是更實際的作法。 “It would be foolish to say no, but it would be a measure of last resort,” Nachman said. 「拒絕是愚蠢的,但這會是最後手段,」納赫曼說。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 203.222.14.70 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1623676384.A.F8B.html ※ 編輯: sellgd (203.222.14.70 臺灣), 06/14/2021 21:13:44

06/14 21:13, 4年前 , 1F
【政治面前無防疫】
06/14 21:13, 1F

06/14 21:13, 4年前 , 2F
衛報..
06/14 21:13, 2F

06/14 21:14, 4年前 , 3F
莫德那早採購2000萬隻
06/14 21:14, 3F
※ 編輯: sellgd (203.222.14.70 臺灣), 06/14/2021 21:15:01

06/14 21:15, 4年前 , 4F
幹 國外的新聞稿讀起來用詞就是專業
06/14 21:15, 4F

06/14 21:15, 4年前 , 5F
台灣的新聞 標題沒重點 前兩段一樣
06/14 21:15, 5F

06/14 21:15, 4年前 , 6F
感覺跟衛報後面沒賺到有關 跟台灣還好
06/14 21:15, 6F
※ 編輯: sellgd (203.222.14.70 臺灣), 06/14/2021 21:16:00

06/14 21:16, 4年前 , 7F
中間一段大概描述一下事實
06/14 21:16, 7F

06/14 21:16, 4年前 , 8F
最後再用網友留言結尾
06/14 21:16, 8F

06/14 21:16, 4年前 , 9F
滴能兒跟焦糖粉會說你斷章取義
06/14 21:16, 9F

06/14 21:16, 4年前 , 10F
目前還沒有中國製的外國疫苗
06/14 21:16, 10F
※ 編輯: sellgd (203.222.14.70 臺灣), 06/14/2021 21:17:48

06/14 21:18, 4年前 , 11F
中共同路人啦
06/14 21:18, 11F

06/14 21:18, 4年前 , 12F
我操! 這不就是照搬中共大外宣的東西
06/14 21:18, 12F

06/14 21:20, 4年前 , 13F
肯定是~紅~媒!
06/14 21:20, 13F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 14F
in the DPP’s electoral interest not t
06/14 21:25, 14F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 15F
o get any
06/14 21:25, 15F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 16F
China vaccines
06/14 21:25, 16F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 17F
衛報很偏民進黨了啦,連反對黨爭取
06/14 21:25, 17F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 18F
疫苗都可以用 capitalise來描述,這
06/14 21:25, 18F

06/14 21:25, 4年前 , 19F
篇基本也是以關心民進黨政府如何維
06/14 21:25, 19F

06/14 21:26, 4年前 , 20F
穩抗中的國際政治角度談,並非站在台
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06/14 21:26, 4年前 , 21F
灣人民能不能打到疫苗的民生角度談。
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※ 編輯: sellgd (203.222.14.70 臺灣), 06/14/2021 21:29:13

06/14 21:31, 4年前 , 22F
這文章真的有水準
06/14 21:31, 22F

06/14 21:31, 4年前 , 23F
老人染疫都死光,符合民進黨選舉利益
06/14 21:31, 23F

06/14 22:32, 4年前 , 24F
時鐘給台北疫苗就像北京中央給台灣疫苗
06/14 22:32, 24F

06/14 22:32, 4年前 , 25F
一家人和樂融融很好阿
06/14 22:32, 25F

06/15 05:32, 4年前 , 26F
不接受中國疫苗OK、不買BNT也OK
06/15 05:32, 26F

06/15 05:33, 4年前 , 27F
但要有足夠的疫苗啊,別拿二期都沒
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06/15 05:33, 4年前 , 28F
做完的國產疫苗來充數好嗎
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06/15 05:33, 4年前 , 29F
何況國產的時程也跟不上台灣的需求
06/15 05:33, 29F
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