Re: [問卦] 焦糖哥哥抱怨：網絡霸凌好玩嗎已刪文

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衝人氣也要有點代價我想他社會打滾那麼多年這對他來說應該沒什麼他讓我產生注意力了我剛去查一下wiki 第一段自介就是個贏家的姿態他未來會發展的越來越好他說抱怨網路霸凌其實應該心情蠻好的流量真的很難衝用錢都沒這效果好 ※ 引述《neiltsang (楚留香雞排)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《Crossmy88 (小八)》之銘言： : : https://imgur.com/DKpOhP8.jpg

: : 焦糖哥哥抱怨：網絡霸凌好玩嗎 : : 我希望各位鄉民將心比心一下 : : 如果你是焦糖哥哥你會覺得好玩嗎 : : 是不是該適可而止了？？ : 其實焦糖的行為沒有什麼特別的 ted上就有能解釋他為啥要po書叫大家讀書 : 其實我們可以從這部TED的演講看破其意圖 : 以下就亂翻超譯大概講一下內容~ : How Craving Attention Makes You Less Creative: Joseph Gordon-Levitt : 為啥追求注意會扼殺你的創意? : : First of all, thank you for your attention. : There’s nothing quite like being in a room full of people like this, where all : of you are giving your attention to me. It’s a powerful feeling, to get : attention. : 先謝謝各位的關注(幽默) 在這種空間裡得到你們一堆人的注意很少見 : 而這種得到注意力的感覺很有Power : I’m an actor, so I’m a bit of an expert on, well, nothing, really. But I do : know what it feels like to get attention — I’ve been lucky in my life to get : a lot more than my fair share of attention. And I’m grateful for that, because : like I said, it’s a powerful feeling. : 我是個演員我的專長是閒閒沒事(幽默~沒有啦這裡他就自損一下) : 但我的確知道得到注意力的感覺是啥我很幸運能夠得到多一些的關注而我很感激 : 那種感覺真的很讚 : But there’s another powerful feeling that I’ve also been lucky to experience : a lot as an actor. And it’s funny, it’s sort of the opposite feeling, because : it doesn’t come from getting attention. It comes from paying attention. : When I’m acting, I get so focused that I’m only paying attention to one thing : . Like when I’m on set and we’re about to shoot and the first AD calls out “ : Rolling!” And then I hear “speed,” “marker,” “set,” and then the : director calls “Action!” : 但是還有另外一種有power的感覺在我當演員時有幸體會那是一種完全相反的感覺 : 因為它不是源自得到別人關注而是來自你付出關心 : 當我在演戲時我很專注以至於只能對一件事情關心當我準備好後就要開拍 : 然後助理導演就喊說 roll speed marker set action (這應該是在確認各組ㄅ~) : I’ve heard that sequence so many times, like, it’s become this Pavlovian : magic spell for me. “Rolling,” “speed,” “marker,” “set” and “action.” : Something happens to me, I can’t even help it. My attention… narrows. And : everything else in the world, anything else that might be bothering me or might : grab my attention, it all goes away, and I’m just there. : 我聽這句太多次了這就變成像是古典制約一樣 : 發生了我無法控制的事情我的注意力縮小除了我以外的世界都煙消雲散 : 我就專注在那裏 : And that feeling, that is what I love, that, to me, is creativity. And that’s : the biggest reason I’m so grateful that I get to be an actor. : 那種感覺我超愛就是創造而這也是我成為演員如此感激的最大原因 : So, there’s these two powerful feelings. There’s getting attention and paying : attention. Of course, in the last decade or so, new technology has allowed : more and more people to have this powerful feeling of getting attention. : For any kind of creative expression, not just acting. It could be writing or : photography or drawing, music — everything. The channels of distribution have : been democratized, and that’s a good thing. : 有兩種有力量的感覺一種就是付出關注力 : 另外一種是被關注當然近年來科技讓我們能感受到被關注的力量 : 不只是演戲任何其他有創造力的表達都是可以是寫作攝影畫圖音樂都可以 : 途徑分布的很廣這是一件好事 : But I do think there’s an unintended consequence for anybody on the planet : with an urge to be creative — myself included, because I’m not immune to this : 然而我深信對任何渴望成為有創造力的人這有無預警的後果包含我自己 : 因為我也有被影響到 : I think that our creativity is becoming more and more of a means to an end — : and that end is to get attention. : 我認為我們的創造力最終都變成要獲得別人的關注 : And so I feel compelled to speak up because in my experience, the more I go : after that powerful feeling of paying attention, the happier I am. : But the more I go after the powerful feeling of getting attention, the : unhappier I am. : 我感覺要分享經驗的迫切理由其中一個就是因為付出關注力越多我感覺越開心 : 相反的我越是想要得到別人的關注只會讓人越不快樂 : (中間這裡講說他以前的經驗...部分跳過~) : But if we’re going to talk about the perils of creativity becoming a means to : get attention, then we have to talk about the attention-driven business model : of today’s big social media companies, right? : 要討論創造力變成獲得關注這件事的危險性我們就要講那些 : 吸引力驅動的龐大社群媒體他們的商業模型對吧 : This will be familiar territory for some of you, but it’s a really relevant : question here: How does a social media platform like, for example, Instagram, : make money? It’s not selling a photo-sharing service — that part’s free. So : what is it selling? It’s selling attention. : 這邊就是砲轟IG FB等都是販售關注然後我們來跳到最後 : Sometimes — it doesn’t always work. Sometimes, I still totally get wrapped up : in that addictive cycle of wanting to get attention. I mean, like, even right : now, can I honestly say there’s not some part of me here who’s like, “Hey, : everybody, look at me, I’m giving a TED Talk!” : There is — there’s, you know, some part. : 演講者說有時候他自己都會陷入追求關注這種會讓人上癮的循環 : 總結來說社交平台上表達的東西有很多有人是商品有人是直播聊天 : 有人是唱歌但你聽完這個演講你會發現任何形式 : 都只是關注的延伸 : 所以為什麼焦糖要秀書本? : 是因為知識ㄉ力量很偉大嗎 probably no 是因為葉配嗎 maybe yes : 但是BUT!!!!! : 最重要的還是讓他從當焦糖哥哥開始 "追求別人關注" 的這個嗎啡已經停不下來了 : 結束掰餔等等吃早餐~ -- Sent from JPTT on my iPhone -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.251.131.8 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1604877471.A.537.html

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