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看板Gossiping作者 (人,原來不是人)時間5年前 (2020/11/07 14:15), 編輯推噓3(3011)
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※ 引述《coolbaby (coolbaby)》之銘言: : Michigan state 官方回覆 : 簡而言之就是人工疏失,並不影響正式選票計算。 : 出處 : https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127--544676--,00.html : 原文如下,大略翻譯 : False claims from Ronna McDaniel have no merit : NOVEMBER 6, 2020 : In response to the false claims made by Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel, the Michigan Department of State issues the following statements of fact: : Michigan’s elections were conducted fairly, effectively and transparently and are an accurate reflection of the will of Michigan voters. : The erroneous reporting of unofficial results from Antrim county was a result of accidental error on the part of the Antrim County Clerk. The equipment and software did not malfunction and all ballots were properly tabulated. However, the clerk accidentally did not update the software used to collect voting machine data and report unofficial results. : 計算選票的機器跟軟體並無問題,但是用來收集選票資料與非正式統計的報表軟體應故未更新。 : Like many counties in Michigan, Antrim County uses the Dominion Voting Systems election management system and voting machines (ballot tabulators.) The county receives programming support from Election Source. Tabulators are programmed to scan hand marked, paper ballots. When machines are finished scanning the ballots, the paper ballots are retained and a totals tape showing the number of votes for each candidate in each race is printed from the machine. : In order to report unofficial results, county clerks use election management system software to combine the electronic totals from tabulators and submit a report of unofficial results. Because the clerk did not update software, even though the tabulators counted all the ballots correctly, those accurate results were not combined properly when the clerk reported unofficial results. : 雖然計票正確,但由於該選舉管理軟體未更新而造成統整非正式資料時出錯。 : The correct results always were and continue to be reflected on the tabulator totals tape and on the ballots themselves. Even if the error in the reported unofficial results had not been quickly noticed, it would have been identified during the county canvass. Boards of County Canvassers, which are composed of 2 Democrats and 2 Republicans, review the printed totals tape from each tabulator during the canvass to verify the reported vote totals are correct. : 計票結果一直無誤,即便一開始並未發現非正式資料結果出錯,此結果會再經過2名民主黨與2名共和黨成員核對是否無誤。 : The software did not cause a misallocation of votes; it was a result of user human error. Even when human error occurs, it is caught during county canvasses. : It is also completely false that the county had to or will have to hand count all their ballots. The ballots were properly counted by the tabulators. The county had to review the printed tabulator results from each precinct, not each individual ballot. : As with other unofficial results reporting errors, this was an honest mistake and did not affect any actual vote totals. Election clerks work extremely hard and do their work with integrity. They are human beings, and sometimes make mistakes. However, there are many checks and balances that ensure mistakes can be caught and corrected. : 簡而言之,這次過失並未影響正式選票統計,而且這錯誤也在審核選票時修正。 : As Detroit officials have stated, hundreds of challengers from both parties were inside their absent voter counting board all afternoon and evening. And even after some left, there were always challengers from both parties in the room. Dozens of reporters were in the room as well. Further, some windows were covered to stop those outside from filming the people and private information in the counting board, while other windows were left uncovered to ensure additional transparency. : 這邊只是說計票的過程並非完全不公開。 : As was stated by Chris Thomas, who as a contractor for the Detroit City Clerk’s Office served as an advisor on the execution of this election and led challenger relations, and who is the former Michigan Director of Elections, who served under both republican and democrat Secretaries of State during his 40-year-tenure with the Bureau of Elections, no ballots were backdated. Rather, a clerical error was made when some ballot envelopes were received in Detroit satellite offices. Although employees stamped : a date of receipt on the envelopes, an employee failed to complete the transaction for receiving the ballot by saving that date in the Qualified Voter File. Therefore, at the absent voter counting board, after discussion with Republican challengers who chose not to challenge the process, staff was instructed to enter that date stamped on the envelope ensuring that no voters were disenfranchised by the clerical error. : 這邊在講另外郵寄選票日期的事情,有部分郵寄選票因人為疏失而未將收件日期建檔。後來開會時與共和黨在場人士討論後,決定將這些選票重新輸入日期建檔。 : 官方回覆,信者恆信。大家看完自己判斷。 : ----- 所以 Ronna McDaniel 並不是先落選變成當選? 還是選舉結果用了非正式資料又太早公佈導致 Ronna McDaniel 先落選變成當選? 官方解釋看不出怎麼會出現落選變成當選的情況,不是說還要經過雙方各兩名成員檢驗 嗎?怎麼檢驗過還會出現先落選再當選的情況? 有人可以幫忙解釋一下嗎? -- 「看在上帝的份上,我們不能當著孩子的面槍殺他的父親!」 「那我們就連孩子一起幹掉!」 「第一槍打中的是那個天真的孩子,第二槍是抱著孩子的母親。第三槍 停頓了三秒,當難以致信的父親擦拭著臉上愛子的腦漿從震驚中醒轉 過來,慢慢的轉頭看向停車的地方,分辨出是誰在攻擊他後,第三顆 子彈才將他的腦殼打飛。」 ─摘自〈狼群〉 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.173.29.105 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Gossiping/M.1604729707.A.28D.html

11/07 14:16, 5年前 , 1F
先讓子彈飛一下 確定風向在問
11/07 14:16, 1F

11/07 14:17, 5年前 , 2F
事實翻盤了
11/07 14:17, 2F

11/07 14:20, 5年前 , 3F
密西根不EY
11/07 14:20, 3F

11/07 14:21, 5年前 , 4F
不用解釋啦 川普在密西根又不是沒人 他會自己處理
11/07 14:21, 4F

11/07 14:30, 5年前 , 5F
等一下,你這裡提到的Ronna McDaniel是指控軟體問題的
11/07 14:30, 5F

11/07 14:31, 5年前 , 6F
人,不是任何一個地方的參選人,怎麼會落選又當選?
11/07 14:31, 6F

11/07 14:32, 5年前 , 7F
他是共和黨全國委員會的主題
11/07 14:32, 7F

11/07 14:32, 5年前 , 8F
主席
11/07 14:32, 8F

11/07 14:32, 5年前 , 9F

11/07 14:33, 5年前 , 10F
到現在我還找不出是誰落選又當選的,有人知道嗎?
11/07 14:33, 10F

11/07 14:34, 5年前 , 11F
到底在共三小,你到底怎麼讀的
11/07 14:34, 11F

11/07 14:37, 5年前 , 12F
抱歉,是 Adam Kochenderfer 才對
11/07 14:37, 12F

11/07 14:37, 5年前 , 13F
我也看到了。謝謝
11/07 14:37, 13F

11/07 14:38, 5年前 , 14F
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