Re: [閒聊] 剛剛明義提出的兩國論
事實上
這兩天媒體跟立委的反應我一直覺得很怪
民間版的監督條例是國與國的監督方式
所以支持這個的人根本是兩國論者
就是要台獨
國與國監督 = 兩國論 = 台獨 ??
監督方式不就是一種達到公平公正公開的一種設計而已嗎
為什麼支持合理的監督就是兩國論?
不管是支持台灣獨立 或是最終會統一的人
難道可以昧於現實
覺得台灣沒有獨立主權 更甚的 大陸也沒有獨立主權
所以兩邊涉及人民重大權益的協議
不需要經過嚴格的監督
那這不是黑箱
什麼才是黑箱
訂一個監督條例的規格
好像台南跟台北訂清潔隊互助協議一樣
這樣有意義嗎
這跟兩國論根本無關啊
有關的是什麼樣的監督機制可以達到監督效果
尤其是應該依對台灣人民影響的重大程度而決定監督機制的設計
※ 引述《minicg47482 (*城市蚊子*)》之銘言:
: 剛剛明義一直逼學生代表想承認,學運是不是支持兩國論。
: 我覺得這樣斷章取義蠻詭異的...學生代表似乎也沒有很好的反應過來。
: 明義這種質問法,學生代表應該要這樣回呀。
: 「那不然你是當哪一國的市議員?費委員是當哪一國的立法委員?
: 不是中華民國的話,那到底是哪一國?」
: 去打這個兩國論真的是瘋了...陳明義,整天只想打成台獨跟藍綠對決。
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