Re: [文法] 文法題

看板Eng-Class作者 (my two cents)時間13年前 (2012/12/03 13:01), 編輯推噓4(4028)
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※ 引述《hopeliu (阿翔)》之銘言: : Joe: When traffic fatalities and injuries are considered, this intersection is : the most dangerous in the city. However I need to pass by it for work everyday. : It has been three weeks since I __________ an accident. : (a) will seen : (b) saw : (c) has see : (d) have seen : 答案b, : 要怎麼解釋d是錯的? : 感謝各位大大。 It has been three weeks since I have seen an accident. 後面用現在完成,在於"I have seen an accident"這個事件(我看到車禍)是可能會 在重覆發生. 依題目來看這叉路口很危險,因為常發生交通意外,所以看到交通意外是很能再 度發生. 用現在完成,合情合理. 是你妹的疑問? 就先不管是不是國中題,因為d沒有錯,實在不應該解釋它是錯的, 不應該抹滅你妹搞不好她真的對語文很有天份, d答案頂多就先不解釋. 等她學多一點之後再解釋. 你可以去請教教語法學高段一點的母語人士教授討論是不是這樣的差異. ※ 編輯: tijj 來自: 17.9.10.1 (12/03 13:03) 好吧,省去你問的時間. The Grammar of the English Tense System: A Comprehensive Analysis pp 263 Renaat Declerck, Susan Reed, Bert Cappelle It's been three weeks since I have heard from him. It's been a long time since I have had a decent meal. The head clause, which can also make use of the present tense (It's three weeks...), is clearly duration-qualifying. The since-clause receives an indefinite reading: it is concerned with question whether a situation has actualized in a period up to now. It is interesting to note that a condition for the use of the present perfect in the since- clause is that the situation referred to is potentially repeatable.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ※ 編輯: tijj 來自: 17.9.10.1 (12/03 14:43)

12/03 14:59, , 1F
repeatable in "the" three weeks or in the future?
12/03 14:59, 1F

12/03 15:00, , 2F
and how do we measure the duration if it did repeat in
12/03 15:00, 2F

12/03 15:01, , 3F
the three weeks? i am a little confused @@
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12/03 15:02, , 4F
the latter
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12/03 15:03, , 5F
so if i use past tense in the since-clause, it is
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12/03 15:03, , 6F
unrepeatable?
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12/03 15:05, , 7F
i may never hear from him in the future?
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12/03 15:06, , 8F
isn't every action "potentially repeatable?"
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12/03 15:07, , 9F
it implies nothing, maybe yes, maybe no..ie,leave it OPEN
12/03 15:07, 9F

12/03 15:12, , 10F
then what's difference between past tense and perfect?
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12/03 15:12, , 11F
isn't "potentially repeatable"= OPEN?
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12/03 15:13, , 12F
sorry to trouble you with the question? still confused
12/03 15:13, 12F
no problem. That's a good question. :)

12/03 15:14, , 13F
no question mark above
12/03 15:14, 13F
pp 264 It's (been) five years since I {saw / *have seen} him on the 20th anniversary of his marriage. 如上例 顯然就是要用saw,因為語意告訴我們20周年慶不可能重覆發生. (當然, 在此我們排除他再婚的可能) 原題目,比如誇張點, 我們並不知道Joe是不是今天重病/傷,快掛了,或明天決定要換路線, 用saw或許可能是style問題或者不夠精準. 但d不能說是錯. d反而還更好. ※ 編輯: tijj 來自: 17.9.10.1 (12/03 15:45)

12/03 16:00, , 14F
this helps a lot. thanks
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12/03 16:01, , 15F
z大 您客氣了
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12/03 23:26, , 16F
I must say the splendidly organized wording
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12/03 23:26, , 17F
has indeed obscured my comprension on what was
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12/03 23:27, , 18F
initially discussed.
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12/03 23:27, , 19F
comprehension
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12/04 00:36, , 20F
謝z大及t大,小弟受教了。 Orz
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12/04 00:37, , 21F
對。這是小妹的問題。小妹國中前有八年在美國,所以英文程
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12/04 00:37, , 22F
度真的不算差,為了台灣升學,做練習題,有時問我,我卻不
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12/04 00:38, , 23F
確定怎麼回答,也真是慚愧。所以才來請益各位大大,想聽聽
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12/04 00:39, , 24F
有別於一般公式教育的解答。果然高手眾多。順便請教t大,
12/04 00:39, 24F

12/04 00:40, , 25F
所以採狀態動詞的角度並不適合來詮釋如本題it's (been)之
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12/04 00:40, , 26F
句構?
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12/04 01:01, , 27F
dunchee大所指的牛津例句,
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12/04 01:02, , 28F
It's twenty years since I've seen her.我現在也能體會了
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12/04 14:23, , 29F
不太適用.
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※ 編輯: tijj 來自: 220.135.3.163 (12/07 20:04)

09/07 00:11, , 30F
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12/02 18:27, , 31F
then what's https://daxiv.com
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04/13 22:45, 6年前 , 32F
確定怎麼回答,也真是慚 http://yofuk.com
04/13 22:45, 32F
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