Re: [討論] 救恩會失去嗎
※ 引述《jacklin2002 ()》之銘言:
: 有個基督徒A,喝酒又開車,不小心擦撞別人機車,
: 結果那人就摔死了。
: 隔天早上起床,他很懊悔自己酒駕,
: 馬上向神認罪:
: 「主啊!對不起,我不該酒後開車的,我向你認罪,
: 新車多了一道刮痕,是你給我的懲罰。」
: 他根本不知道自己肇事逃逸、撞死了人,
: 路口也沒有監視器拍下車禍畫面,
: 所以也沒人出來指認基督徒A就是兇手。
: 於是這位基督徒就「持續地跟隨主、愛神愛人」,
: 揹著一條人命到死,從未悔改。
: 請問這個基督徒A,有沒有得救?
我們先來看另一個例子:
有個基督徒B,一生持續地跟隨主,愛神愛人
卻在他生命的最後幾個月墮落犯罪,至死都沒悔改,回到主內。
請問這個基督徒B,沒有沒得救?
預定論者A: 一次得救永遠得救,他當然有得救。
預定論者B: 既然死前沒悔改,就表示他一開始就沒得救。
回到基督徒A的例子,預定論者同樣有話說:
預定論者A: 一次得救永遠得救,他當然有得救。
預定論者B: 既然死前沒悔改,就表示他一開始就沒得救。
這樣你有看出預定論的錯謬嗎?
要嘛預定論允許你持續犯罪不悔改依然可以得救。
要嘛你一旦犯罪,就要擔心自己會不會來不及悔改就死了,
那就表示其實你一開始就沒被神揀選,一開始就沒有得救。
你曾經覺得自己有「信入」,其實只是假象。
這樣的預定論會讓人比較安心,不必擔心救恩不失喪嗎?
如果你的答案是yes,那表示你要嘛邏輯不通,
要嘛從沒真正了解預定論。
謝謝大家。
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