Fw: [情報] Brian Kibler 退出大師賽

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※ [本文轉錄自 Hearthstone 看板 #1TdW9Qtp ] 作者: mattiswe098 () 看板: Hearthstone 標題: [情報] Brian Kibler 退出大師賽 時間: Wed Oct 9 23:52:55 2019 Brian Kibler 聲明 http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/ I certainly never expected that my position in the Hearthstone community would lead to me making a statement on sensitive topics regarding international relations, but I have always viewed my strange place as a public figure in gaming as an opportunity to try to make the world a better place in whatever way I can, so here we are. Here are the facts as I understand them. After finishing his final match of the second season of the Asia-Pacific Hearthstone Grandmasters, Hong Kong player Ng “blitzchung” Wai Chung appeared on the official Taiwanese Hearthstone stream for his post-game interview wearing a gas mask. He lifted the mouthpiece and shouted, in Chinese: “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age!” – a rallying cry of the ongoing protests in Hong Kong. On Tuesday, Blizzard announced their ruling, claiming that Blitzchung violated one of the Hearthstone Grandmasters rules against “engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image. ” The penalty they imposed was expelling Blitzchung from the Grandmasters league entirely, including retroactively revoking the prize money he had earned throughout the season, and additionally banning him from competing in events for a year. They also announced that they would no longer work with the casters involved in the controversial interview. I want to start by saying that I feel what Blitzchung did was very brave. He knew that his actions would likely have serious consequences, not just for his future in Hearthstone but possibly even for his personal safety, and I commend him for the fortitude that takes. Even so, I do think that Blizzard was correct in issuing him a penalty for his actions. They do not want to set the precedent for their official broadcasts being used as political tools. The players agreed to particular rules for behavior, and he violated those rules. I have seen many descriptions of the situation claim that Blizzard took action against Blitzchung “for his support of the Hong Kong protests”, but that’s not an entirely accurate description. They did not penalize him for his political stance – they penalized him for breaking the rules by using their official broadcast to promote that stance. Anyone who pays attention to my social media feeds knows that I am not someone who shies away from politics. I am frequently quite vocal about my views about what’s going on in the United States. I have kept a deck titled “Election 2016” in my collection for the past three years, full of cards like Corruption, DOOM, and Validated Doomsayer. I would rather risk alienating those who disagree with me rather than stay silent on matters I consider important. But when I am on the desk for an official Hearthstone broadcast, I leave those views at home. Maybe I’ll make a subtle snide remark on occasion, but I know that I am representing Blizzard in addition to myself. If I were to close a show with speech about how I feel like Trump should be impeached, I wouldn’t expect to be invited back for future events. All that having been said, there are additional factors at play here. The punishment meted out to Blitzchung is incredibly harsh. I could understand a fine, or even a short suspension from competitive play, but removal from Grandmasters, clawing back the prizes he already earned, and banning him for a full year seems completely overboard to an extent that feels completely unwarranted and unfair. I won’t pretend to understand either the intricacies of the geopolitical situation in China and Hong Kong or the full extent of Blizzard’s business interests there, but to me this penalty feels like it is deeply rooted in both. The heavy-handedness of it feels like someone insisted that Blizzard make an example of Blitzchung, not only to discourage others from similar acts in the future but also to appease those upset by the outburst itself. That kind of appeasement is simply not something I can in good conscience be associated with. When I learned about the ruling, I reached out to Blizzard and informed them that I no longer feel comfortable casting the Grandmasters finals at BlizzCon. I will not be a smiling face on camera that tacitly endorses this decision. Unless something changes, I will have no involvement in Grandmasters moving forward. However, I want to make clear that not everyone involved in GM has this luxury. Do not take your anger out on the other casters, or streamers, or employees of Blizzard. This is not the kind of decision that comes from the rank and file. Most likely they’re just as angry as you are. I know I am. 大概翻譯一下 第一段意思是他從來沒想過自己會因為自己在爐石的社群地位而需要對國際情勢的敏感話 題發表看法,但他既然身為爐石圈的公眾人物,就有責任發表意見 再來是Brian Kibler大概講一下Blitzchung事件經過,並說Blitzchung非常勇敢,他知道 自己的舉動會造成的後果,他讚賞他的堅毅態度 然後Brian Kibler認為暴雪對他懲處是正確的,暴雪不想被當做宣揚政治主張的平台。 暴雪不是因為"Blitzchung支持香港抗議活動而懲處",而是因為他違反規則利用官方平台 宣傳他私人的政治主張 認識Brian Kibler的人都知道我不是一個迴避政治的人,我經常對美國發生的事發表看法 我寧願疏遠那些不同意我的人,也不願對我認為重要的事情沉默 但我認為暴雪對Blitzchung懲處過於嚴厲,你可以暫停他的比賽,甚至短暫停賽 但是剝奪他的大師賽資格,還要追回他獲得的獎金及禁賽一年就太過分了,這完全是沒有 根據且不公平的 我不會假裝說我懂香港跟中國的複雜地緣政治,假裝了解暴雪在中國的商業利益 更正翻譯:剛剛翻譯錯了,意思搞反 對我而言,這麼重的懲罰只有兩個原因 1.殺雞儆猴給其他人,讓其他人看到Blitzchung這麼做後的下場 2.不僅要阻止今後其他人採取類似行動,還要安撫因為這個抗議而不滿的人 這種懲處不合我的良心,我知道判決後,就聯繫暴雪並告訴他們,我沒辦法在暴雪嘉年華 上參加大師賽決賽了,我做不到在攝影機前面笑著就像是我默認這件事是正確的一樣 除非未來有說改變,否則我不會再參與大師賽決賽 最後就是Brian Kibler懇求網友不要遷怒暴雪其他員工、主播或是其他參賽者 他們可能跟你一樣生氣,至少我知道我是這樣的 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.166.6.5 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1570636378.A.DF3.html

10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 1F
這篇就比較詳細了
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10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 2F
中共邰哥:政治歸政治
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10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 3F
說得很好 真的
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/09/2019 23:55:47

10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 4F
Kibler這篇算是各方都有兼顧到的觀點 目前我認為最
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10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 5F
公道的話吧
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10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 6F
還提醒大家不要亂燒人 畢竟不是每個人都跟錢過不去
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 7F
暴雪確實可以用私人偷渡政治去罰 但不是這樣罰的 這
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 8F
程度明顯已經是為了討好某邊 才痛下殺手
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 9F
今天起你就是爐石公道伯
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 10F
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10/09 23:57, 4年前 , 11F
這篇公道
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10/09 23:57, 4年前 , 12F
對了 "在"暴雪跟"參"與
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/09/2019 23:58:35

10/09 23:58, 4年前 , 13F
認同,罰過重(尤其是主播,賽評)
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10/09 23:58, 4年前 , 14F
說話的藝術
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10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 15F
公道伯
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10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 16F
講難聽點 你要永不錄用哪個賽評主播也是你家的事
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10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 17F
真的會說話
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※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/10/2019 00:00:00

10/10 00:03, 4年前 , 18F
明眼人都看的出來 懲罰誇張到不行 一堆無辜的人也中標
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10/10 00:04, 4年前 , 19F
比起等哪天你抄滅我 還不如我挑明說 說了就跑
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10/10 00:17, 4年前 , 20F
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10/10 00:19, 4年前 , 21F
推 謝謝這些為正義挺身而出的人
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10/10 00:20, 4年前 , 22F
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10/10 00:20, 4年前 , 23F
今天搞香港跟台灣人 搞不好哪天暴雪心情不好就搞到他頭上了
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10/10 00:23, 4年前 , 24F
這個聲明真的寫的很漂亮 翻的也很好 感謝分享
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/10/2019 00:25:29

10/10 00:25, 4年前 , 25F
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10/10 00:25, 4年前 , 26F
這篇真的推 有良心的真男人QQ
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10/10 00:28, 4年前 , 27F
推這篇
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10/10 00:32, 4年前 , 28F
連這個暴雪御用主播都反了,不簡單啊共雪
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10/10 00:34, 4年前 , 29F
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10/10 00:39, 4年前 , 30F
暴雪不僅處罰選手而已,連主播、賽評都ban掉也太過頭了
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10/10 00:47, 4年前 , 31F
爐石公道伯 而且他這樣寫還有可能引發連鎖效益 話已
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10/10 00:48, 4年前 , 32F
經講開了 你們其他人要是沉默到決賽結束 就等同於是
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10/10 00:48, 4年前 , 33F
默認暴雪的行為
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10/10 00:50, 4年前 , 34F
希望道德天尊也能評論一下
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10/10 00:59, 4年前 , 35F
四年前Taiwan No.1影片又出現在r/video第一了 笑死
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10/10 00:59, 4年前 , 36F
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10/10 00:59, 4年前 , 37F
在台暴的朋友也是蠻生氣的
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10/10 01:12, 4年前 , 38F
中肯
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10/10 01:30, 4年前 , 39F
中肯
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10/10 01:32, 4年前 , 40F
respect
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10/10 01:33, 4年前 , 41F
給自己留了個後路 真高招
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10/10 01:34, 4年前 , 42F
公正推
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10/10 01:36, 4年前 , 43F
中肯 大家都知道聰哥會被懲處 ,但暴雪禁一年追回獎金
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10/10 01:36, 4年前 , 44F
外加連坐兩個主播 誰能服氣
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10/10 01:46, 4年前 , 45F
Respect
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10/10 01:49, 4年前 , 46F
只能推了
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10/10 01:52, 4年前 , 47F
這才是真正的公道伯
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10/10 01:55, 4年前 , 48F
哦呦kibler難得說公道話
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10/10 02:09, 4年前 , 49F
這聲明漂亮到各方兼顧 宣揚自己 又留後路 真的不是公
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10/10 02:09, 4年前 , 50F
關公司嗎
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10/10 02:20, 4年前 , 51F
真正公道伯
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10/10 02:43, 4年前 , 52F
中肯啊
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10/10 02:51, 4年前 , 53F
這聲明漂亮到可以當教材
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10/10 03:32, 4年前 , 54F
易先生:我呢QQ
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10/10 03:42, 4年前 , 55F
真的 就算只是說漂亮話 但確實說得漂亮
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10/10 04:09, 4年前 , 56F
真男人
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10/10 04:57, 4年前 , 57F
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10/10 07:14, 4年前 , 58F
respect
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10/10 07:30, 4年前 , 59F
合理
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10/10 08:03, 4年前 , 60F
勇敢
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10/10 08:08, 4年前 , 61F
Respect
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10/10 08:48, 4年前 , 62F
可惜下一步暴雪就算減輕聰哥的判決也是遍體鱗傷
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10/10 09:31, 4年前 , 63F
有骨氣的人不是都已經離職了嗎
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10/10 10:02, 4年前 , 64F
推個!
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10/10 10:47, 4年前 , 65F
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10/10 10:48, 4年前 , 66F
這哪裡只算漂亮話了? 他不是都自主退賽了嗎?
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10/10 13:05, 4年前 , 67F
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10/14 19:42, 4年前 , 68F
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