[情報] Brian Kibler 退出大師賽

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Brian Kibler 聲明 http://bmkgaming.com/statement-on-blitzchung/ I certainly never expected that my position in the Hearthstone community would lead to me making a statement on sensitive topics regarding international relations, but I have always viewed my strange place as a public figure in gaming as an opportunity to try to make the world a better place in whatever way I can, so here we are. Here are the facts as I understand them. After finishing his final match of the second season of the Asia-Pacific Hearthstone Grandmasters, Hong Kong player Ng “blitzchung” Wai Chung appeared on the official Taiwanese Hearthstone stream for his post-game interview wearing a gas mask. He lifted the mouthpiece and shouted, in Chinese: “Liberate Hong Kong, revolution of our age!” – a rallying cry of the ongoing protests in Hong Kong. On Tuesday, Blizzard announced their ruling, claiming that Blitzchung violated one of the Hearthstone Grandmasters rules against “engaging in any act that, in Blizzard’s sole discretion, brings you into public disrepute, offends a portion or group of the public, or otherwise damages Blizzard image. ” The penalty they imposed was expelling Blitzchung from the Grandmasters league entirely, including retroactively revoking the prize money he had earned throughout the season, and additionally banning him from competing in events for a year. They also announced that they would no longer work with the casters involved in the controversial interview. I want to start by saying that I feel what Blitzchung did was very brave. He knew that his actions would likely have serious consequences, not just for his future in Hearthstone but possibly even for his personal safety, and I commend him for the fortitude that takes. Even so, I do think that Blizzard was correct in issuing him a penalty for his actions. They do not want to set the precedent for their official broadcasts being used as political tools. The players agreed to particular rules for behavior, and he violated those rules. I have seen many descriptions of the situation claim that Blizzard took action against Blitzchung “for his support of the Hong Kong protests”, but that’s not an entirely accurate description. They did not penalize him for his political stance – they penalized him for breaking the rules by using their official broadcast to promote that stance. Anyone who pays attention to my social media feeds knows that I am not someone who shies away from politics. I am frequently quite vocal about my views about what’s going on in the United States. I have kept a deck titled “Election 2016” in my collection for the past three years, full of cards like Corruption, DOOM, and Validated Doomsayer. I would rather risk alienating those who disagree with me rather than stay silent on matters I consider important. But when I am on the desk for an official Hearthstone broadcast, I leave those views at home. Maybe I’ll make a subtle snide remark on occasion, but I know that I am representing Blizzard in addition to myself. If I were to close a show with speech about how I feel like Trump should be impeached, I wouldn’t expect to be invited back for future events. All that having been said, there are additional factors at play here. The punishment meted out to Blitzchung is incredibly harsh. I could understand a fine, or even a short suspension from competitive play, but removal from Grandmasters, clawing back the prizes he already earned, and banning him for a full year seems completely overboard to an extent that feels completely unwarranted and unfair. I won’t pretend to understand either the intricacies of the geopolitical situation in China and Hong Kong or the full extent of Blizzard’s business interests there, but to me this penalty feels like it is deeply rooted in both. The heavy-handedness of it feels like someone insisted that Blizzard make an example of Blitzchung, not only to discourage others from similar acts in the future but also to appease those upset by the outburst itself. That kind of appeasement is simply not something I can in good conscience be associated with. When I learned about the ruling, I reached out to Blizzard and informed them that I no longer feel comfortable casting the Grandmasters finals at BlizzCon. I will not be a smiling face on camera that tacitly endorses this decision. Unless something changes, I will have no involvement in Grandmasters moving forward. However, I want to make clear that not everyone involved in GM has this luxury. Do not take your anger out on the other casters, or streamers, or employees of Blizzard. This is not the kind of decision that comes from the rank and file. Most likely they’re just as angry as you are. I know I am. 大概翻譯一下 第一段意思是他從來沒想過自己會因為自己在爐石的社群地位而需要對國際情勢的敏感話 題發表看法,但他既然身為爐石圈的公眾人物,就有責任發表意見 再來是Brian Kibler大概講一下Blitzchung事件經過,並說Blitzchung非常勇敢,他知道 自己的舉動會造成的後果,他讚賞他的堅毅態度 然後Brian Kibler認為暴雪對他懲處是正確的,暴雪不想被當做宣揚政治主張的平台。 暴雪不是因為"Blitzchung支持香港抗議活動而懲處",而是因為他違反規則利用官方平台 宣傳他私人的政治主張 認識Brian Kibler的人都知道我不是一個迴避政治的人,我經常對美國發生的事發表看法 我寧願疏遠那些不同意我的人,也不願對我認為重要的事情沉默 但我認為暴雪對Blitzchung懲處過於嚴厲,你可以暫停他的比賽,甚至短暫停賽 但是剝奪他的大師賽資格,還要追回他獲得的獎金及禁賽一年就太過分了,這完全是沒有 根據且不公平的 我不會假裝說我知道香港跟中國的複雜地緣政治,假裝知道暴雪在中國的商業利益 更正:我翻錯了;意思搞反 對我而言,這麼重的懲罰只有兩個原因 1.殺雞儆猴給其他人,讓其他人看到Blitzchung這麼做後的下場 2.不僅要阻止今後其他人採取類似行動,還要安撫因為這個抗議而不滿的人 這種懲處不合我的良心,我知道判決後,就聯繫暴雪並告訴他們,我沒辦法在暴雪嘉年華 上參加大師賽決賽了,我做不到在攝影機前面笑著就像是我默認這件事是正確的一樣 除非未來有所改變,否則我不會再參與大師賽決賽 最後就是Brian Kibler懇求網友不要遷怒暴雪其他員工、主播或是其他參賽者 他們可能跟你一樣生氣,至少我知道我是這樣的 https://imgur.com/2p1EII0
但其實中國暴雪還是表達自己的政治態度了,所以Brain 說法說不通,至少是雙重標準 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 218.166.6.5 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Hearthstone/M.1570636378.A.DF3.html

10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 1F
這篇就比較詳細了
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10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 2F
中共邰哥:政治歸政治
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10/09 23:54, 4年前 , 3F
說得很好 真的
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/09/2019 23:55:47

10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 4F
Kibler這篇算是各方都有兼顧到的觀點 目前我認為最
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10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 5F
公道的話吧
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10/09 23:55, 4年前 , 6F
還提醒大家不要亂燒人 畢竟不是每個人都跟錢過不去
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 7F
暴雪確實可以用私人偷渡政治去罰 但不是這樣罰的 這
10/09 23:56, 7F

10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 8F
程度明顯已經是為了討好某邊 才痛下殺手
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 9F
今天起你就是爐石公道伯
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10/09 23:56, 4年前 , 10F
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10/09 23:57, 4年前 , 11F
這篇公道
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10/09 23:57, 4年前 , 12F
對了 "在"暴雪跟"參"與
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/09/2019 23:58:35

10/09 23:58, 4年前 , 13F
認同,罰過重(尤其是主播,賽評)
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10/09 23:58, 4年前 , 14F
說話的藝術
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10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 15F
公道伯
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10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 16F
講難聽點 你要永不錄用哪個賽評主播也是你家的事
10/09 23:59, 16F

10/09 23:59, 4年前 , 17F
真的會說話
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10/10 00:00, 4年前 , 18F
推爆
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10/10 00:00, 4年前 , 19F
這麼大聲公告是講給誰聽有點腦都知道
10/10 00:00, 19F

10/10 00:00, 4年前 , 20F
推Kibler
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10/10 00:00, 4年前 , 21F
中壢邰哥 政治歸政治
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10/10 00:00, 4年前 , 22F
這篇真的是中肯文的範本 表達得很好
10/10 00:00, 22F

10/10 00:01, 4年前 , 23F
「我做不到在攝影機前面笑著就像是我默認這件事是
10/10 00:01, 23F

10/10 00:01, 4年前 , 24F
正確的一樣」這句話太感動了
10/10 00:01, 24F

10/10 00:01, 4年前 , 25F
這內容合理公道 不能同意更多
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10/10 00:01, 4年前 , 26F
公道伯
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10/10 00:01, 4年前 , 27F
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10/10 00:02, 4年前 , 28F
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10/10 00:02, 4年前 , 29F
會燒起來本來就是罰過重 想做給誰看大家都知道啦
10/10 00:02, 29F

10/10 00:04, 4年前 , 30F
推Kibler
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10/10 00:04, 4年前 , 31F
推 哪個主播或賽評在那個時候會想到這後果
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/10/2019 00:05:23

10/10 00:04, 4年前 , 32F
可是想舔共的人不會少 我看共雪是不會理的
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10/10 00:05, 4年前 , 33F
真的也欣賞他 實況也很好看 但就是不是台灣人的時間
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10/10 00:05, 4年前 , 34F
這是把中國牆內的手段拿到牆外來用
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10/10 00:05, 4年前 , 35F
這篇要不要列入中肯伯教科書啊 中壢穩妥
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※ 編輯: mattiswe098 (218.166.6.5 臺灣), 10/10/2019 00:06:01
還有 78 則推文
還有 1 段內文
10/10 00:57, 4年前 , 114F
give a shit
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10/10 00:57, 4年前 , 115F
OW自由平權合理啊 但人民幣更重要
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10/10 01:00, 4年前 , 116F
中國式的自由平權
10/10 01:00, 116F

10/10 01:06, 4年前 , 117F
這篇沒問題 推推
10/10 01:06, 117F

10/10 01:08, 4年前 , 118F
好笑的是 中國是不支持同性戀的 OW頂多騙騙歐美人
10/10 01:08, 118F

10/10 01:13, 4年前 , 119F
kibler很敢耶 我記得他不也是暴雪很要好的合作對象
10/10 01:13, 119F

10/10 01:16, 4年前 , 120F
推推
10/10 01:16, 120F

10/10 01:22, 4年前 , 121F
10/10 01:22, 121F

10/10 01:28, 4年前 , 122F
感謝更正翻譯!
10/10 01:28, 122F

10/10 01:56, 4年前 , 123F
反觀
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10/10 01:59, 4年前 , 124F
爐石公道伯
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10/10 02:01, 4年前 , 125F
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10/10 02:02, 4年前 , 126F
努力站著把錢掙了 推
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10/10 02:09, 4年前 , 127F
公道伯
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10/10 02:22, 4年前 , 128F
講得真好 不知道今年Blizzcon會怎發展
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10/10 02:25, 4年前 , 129F
這樣說法是比較有轉圜餘地,不過還是有人會強迫你
10/10 02:25, 129F

10/10 02:25, 4年前 , 130F
選邊站的。
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10/10 02:42, 4年前 , 131F
真男人
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10/10 02:42, 4年前 , 132F
已經太多前例可循了 哪天BZ真的被完全把持也不意外
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10/10 02:43, 4年前 , 133F
Kibler真的是優質中的優質
10/10 02:43, 133F

10/10 05:32, 4年前 , 134F
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10/10 05:36, 4年前 , 135F
反觀NBA有兩黨挺,講話馬上就大聲了
10/10 05:36, 135F

10/10 07:25, 4年前 , 136F
中肯
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10/10 07:58, 4年前 , 137F
這個表態太過中肯
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10/10 08:52, 4年前 , 138F
他的言論很理性,且很有說話的藝術 有空看整篇原文
10/10 08:52, 138F

10/10 09:09, 4年前 , 139F
時窮節乃見
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10/10 10:00, 4年前 , 140F
追回獎金真的很爛
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10/10 10:42, 4年前 , 141F
respect!
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10/10 12:33, 4年前 , 142F
天啊 推~
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10/10 12:55, 4年前 , 143F
暴雪是全部中資嗎?一直舔
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10/10 13:16, 4年前 , 144F
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10/10 13:16, 4年前 , 145F
太屌了
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10/10 13:40, 4年前 , 146F
邏輯正確 佩服
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10/10 13:48, 4年前 , 147F
讚讚!
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10/10 15:51, 4年前 , 148F
respect
10/10 15:51, 148F

10/10 18:27, 4年前 , 149F
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10/10 19:57, 4年前 , 150F
Respect
10/10 19:57, 150F

10/11 01:05, 4年前 , 151F
推 態度令人欣賞
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10/11 06:22, 4年前 , 152F
Brian Kibler QQ
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10/11 12:48, 4年前 , 153F
真男人 推
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