Re: [討論] 為啥女生都不正面拒絕-明明是好議題
大概看了一下P大與W大的爭論
其實以辯證內容來看,兩個人都不算錯
只是兩人在一開始的立論點與層次完全不同
P大的預設基礎是「男女大不同」-這是站在「思維影響行為」的觀點
W大則認為「世人皆有共通性」-這是認定「真理只有一個」
只是....這兩人的討論層次完全不同啊
假如說P大是把「問題單純化」,把討論界線給「限縮劃定」
在「讓對方瞭解自己的想法」應該要「有所表示」而不是
「連『我正在考慮猶豫』」這樣的訊息都不給(命題指女生)
那麼W大就是認為「人生來就是平等,思維應該有不分性別族群
的共通性」,或許潛意識認定P大有歧視女性的意味吧
-也就是說W大雖然也想要把「問題單純化」,但操作方式
是把「範圍擴大化」:放大到「全人類一體」的觀點來看
所以就變成這兩人的討論變成各說各話,W大的反對也無法說服
P大與「證明」P大的觀點是錯誤的。
在這裡我必須說:如果光就「題目」字面的精確定義
P大的操作才是正確的,W大的觀點雖然整體來說也是對的
可W大一旦把範圍從「女人」擴大到「全人類」,這樣的討論
其實已經失焦(是否是W大刻意的策略我不清楚)
某個角度也可以從「男女真正平等」的角度來看
假如在這個問題情境下,男女都是單身沒交往對象
為什麼女生可以「不表示任何意見」(連我正在考慮都不講)
來給予「自己最大的選擇自由」而男生就不能「同時關注好幾個女生
後,放棄對自己沒有表示且鎖定有明確給自己『可以發展』訊息的女生」
的自由呢?
這是我想問W大的,如果要「平等」,應該「男女都給予同樣待遇」
為什麼我看妳的文章與推文,就如同P大所講「女生利益最大化」呢?
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