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Re: [討論] 名牌好用?農場好用?
[ NY-Yankees ]27 留言, 推噓總分: +17
作者: abc12812 - 發表於 2007/08/28 20:36(16年前)
1Ftim1112:重點是洋基不需要用游騎兵的金錢管理方法吧08/28 20:45
2Ftim1112:既然負擔的起明星的薪水,當然就不客氣砸錢下去啊08/28 20:46
Re: [討論] 名牌好用?農場好用?
[ NY-Yankees ]29 留言, 推噓總分: +16
作者: ByKiss - 發表於 2007/08/28 14:29(16年前)
6Ftim1112:至少我們Bonds他們可以貢獻40+以上的全壘打數08/28 14:33
17Ftim1112:這是今年季中出現的問題,那今年自由市場你要買誰?08/28 14:37
18Ftim1112:你要交易其他隊王牌,也不是馬上就交易的來的,但是漏洞必須08/28 14:38
20Ftim1112:立刻補起來,不找小聯盟球員要怎麼補?08/28 14:38
24Ftim1112:剛爺還不是先發投手呢08/28 14:40
Re: [討論] 名牌好用?農場好用?
[ NY-Yankees ]147 留言, 推噓總分: +70
作者: abc12812 - 發表於 2007/08/28 14:10(16年前)
50Ftim1112:之前不是就有數據證明A-Rod關鍵時刻是很可靠的嗎?08/28 15:13
51Ftim1112:jaye2046你還敢怪人說你低能?08/28 15:14
62Ftim1112:是他自己要提關鍵打點這種東西的啊08/28 15:23
68Ftim1112:自己看他在推文裡說的"關鍵打點"08/28 15:24
82Ftim1112:"太划算? 是要買他的個人表現? 還是關鍵打點呢?"08/28 15:28
83Ftim1112:上面是他講的話08/28 15:28
88Ftim1112:今年是因為傷兵的問題才從農場拉人吧08/28 15:29
97Ftim1112:交易?那你要洋基吐出誰來交易大物?08/28 15:31
107Ftim1112:就搶不贏啊,紅襪也是豪門,洋基搶輸他們很奇怪嗎08/28 15:34
Re: [討論] 名牌好用?農場好用?
[ NY-Yankees ]387 留言, 推噓總分: +134
作者: TheDream - 發表於 2007/08/28 12:07(16年前)
51Ftim1112:因為A-rod守三壘比Jeter守三壘還要安定吧,兩人都是非上場08/28 12:38
52Ftim1112:不可,又不想讓兩人之一打DH,而且不想要要精神領袖讓位的話08/28 12:39
53Ftim1112:當然是A-Rod守三壘啊,但有人會覺得A-rod守游擊的能力會在08/28 12:40
54Ftim1112:Jeter之下嗎?08/28 12:40
80Ftim1112:有理講話大聲本來就是天經地義的吧08/28 13:03
88Ftim1112:只要沒違反版規,又言之有物,為何態度不能強硬?08/28 13:04
118Ftim1112:端出多少東西?看看那些那些反駁你的回文不就知道了08/28 13:19
122Ftim1112:而且名牌等於即戰力,養農場還要花時間(又不一定養成功)08/28 13:24
126Ftim1112:有錢不一定能養好新人,但卻能夠保證(至少機率高)買下名牌08/28 13:26
128Ftim1112:"以後"的不確定性太高了,眼前就有一個A-Rod可以簽,手中也08/28 13:29
129Ftim1112:不是沒錢,A-Rod也不老,為何要捨近求遠呢?08/28 13:29
137Ftim1112:對洋基來說,A-Rod是現成而非以後(不是自己養的),品質又有08/28 13:31
141Ftim1112:保證,既然要求立即的戰績,當然是簽A-Rod啊08/28 13:32
148Ftim1112:找名牌的風險絕對比花數年養新人還低多了08/28 13:34
150Ftim1112:大家都提到過了,名牌的品質已經經過認證了,對洋基來說,他08/28 13:35
153Ftim1112:們需要每年都挑戰冠軍,當然是簽名牌比較好啊08/28 13:35
157Ftim1112:洋基是豪門球隊,你要他們幹出那個冒著犧牲戰績的危險去賭08/28 13:36
158Ftim1112:完全不知道未來會怎樣的新人嗎?08/28 13:36
163Ftim1112:他是有實績的球員,品質是經過大聯盟賽場認證的08/28 13:37
165Ftim1112:沒有實績怎麼可能成為名牌?08/28 13:38
172Ftim1112:Pavano的認證就是數年的大聯盟成績啊(如果你是問我的話)08/28 13:40
176Ftim1112:他有在馬林魚的優異成績,難道這不代表品質認證?08/28 13:40
182Ftim1112:不是每個明星簽來都會變成Pavano的08/28 13:41
187Ftim1112:既然Pavano經過品質認證變成名牌,為何洋基不能簽他?08/28 13:42
191Ftim1112:不要扯後來受傷的事情,他後來有不少傷勢是在洋基受傷的08/28 13:43
195Ftim1112:跟他原本的實力基本上是無關的08/28 13:43
201Ftim1112:幾年出一個Pavano?別把這個案無限放大好嗎?08/28 13:44
207Ftim1112:我同樣也可以說農場養不養的起來是要時間證明的,但洋基有08/28 13:45
209Ftim1112:那個時間來簽新人養?08/28 13:45
212Ftim1112:沒錯,買名牌跟養新人都有風險,但前者的風險小很多08/28 13:47
214Ftim1112:以整體來看,買名牌大部分的確比較好用08/28 13:47
222Ftim1112:農場出來的前幾年不一定會有好的表現喔08/28 13:48
223Ftim1112:但名牌買來至少可以知道他大概會帶給你什麼程度的貢獻08/28 13:49
224Ftim1112:既然追求戰績,當然優先考慮找現成的明星啊08/28 13:49
230Ftim1112:已經講過啦,買名牌的風險比養新人小很多啊08/28 13:50
238Ftim1112:每年都有所謂的百大新秀,真正成為一代名將的又有多少?08/28 13:51
244Ftim1112:沒人說不能參考,但如果有MLB的數據,當然比較讓人放心好嗎08/28 13:52
252Ftim1112:看看養不起來的新人跟買來爛掉的名牌數量就知道了吧08/28 13:53
256Ftim1112:你自己說要比兩者的風險啊08/28 13:54
273Ftim1112:那是因為車檢跟買後保養作的不好,不然300KM跑車在怎樣也08/28 13:58
275Ftim1112:不會性能差太多,再說球員比跑車?08/28 13:59
284Ftim1112:養不好新人還不是會浪費錢?08/28 14:01
293Ftim1112:經營MLB球隊本來就要有隨時會把錢丟進火坑的覺悟08/28 14:03
300Ftim1112:拋錨的比例跟非名廠拋錨的比例呢?08/28 14:04
302Ftim1112:還是你認為裕隆的車拋錨數量比較少?08/28 14:05
305Ftim1112:十年來殞落的百大新秀,跟轉隊後成績大退步的明星數量比呢?08/28 14:05
311Ftim1112:法拉利比較容易拋錨?還是裕隆比較容易拋錨?08/28 14:07
313Ftim1112:法拉利的品管佳?裕隆的品管佳?08/28 14:07
319Ftim1112:今天是要出去跟人賽車的,買法拉利還是買裕隆?08/28 14:08
351Ftim1112:所以你認為把三A投手取代現有Rotation比較好就是了?08/28 14:13
354Ftim1112:洋基哪有那個美國時間來測試?08/28 14:15
357Ftim1112:這就像要在每一場錦標賽測試裕隆能不能跟法拉利一樣強08/28 14:15
359Ftim1112:好啊,測試出一台超強裕隆啦,但賽季也結束了,值得嗎?08/28 14:16
362Ftim1112:既然如此為何不買其他人幫你測試好的王牌?08/28 14:17
364Ftim1112:沒離題,洋基的目標是每年都要打世界大賽的,所以要避開不確08/28 14:17
368Ftim1112:定性,當然要優先考慮買明星球員啊08/28 14:18
371Ftim1112:新人沒辦法表現的時間,球隊犧牲多少戰績?08/28 14:19
373Ftim1112:明星表現不佳的機率跟新人表現不佳的機率你認為哪個大?08/28 14:20