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29F推:大推這句 "我們對抗的是媒體 不是政黨"!!!10/11 09:59
30F→:不過 最近的政治文立場似乎不只有偏紅的樣子 = =a10/11 09:59
32F推:可是是有人 假批媒體之因 行PO非偏紅政文之實啊 XD10/11 10:06
33F→:像6845篇 過度討論政治的意圖就很明顯了吧 = =a10/11 10:09
34F→:雖然只是少數 但也還算是這次政治文的亂源之一吧10/11 10:11
35F→:所以應當是要求立場不同的兩方都要克制 這樣才會有合理10/11 10:13
36F→:媒體的平和空間啊 我是這樣覺得啦 囧>10/11 10:14
45F推:算是討論到跟媒抗版本身有關 且尚算理性 所以我沒噓10/11 12:05
50F推:問題是6845內8則內只有3則跟媒體有關 那其它5則呢??10/11 12:37
51F→:那5則就是原PO所指的"政治文"啦10/11 12:38
65F推:Qlair大 我都已經說6845篇內8則有5則無關媒體了10/11 22:50
66F→:還是你認為那五則都還有跟媒體有關嗎??10/11 22:51
67F→:那五則指出的是政治人物造謠 跟媒體亂象有關嗎?10/11 22:51
68F→:當初一開始造謠的並不是媒體 而是政治人物本身10/11 22:52
69F→:那麼 要討論政治人物 應該要移駕政黑吧???10/11 22:53
70F→:6845篇的版友推文也多半認為政治成份過重啊10/11 22:54
2F→:三個字一篇文 XD10/11 01:03
5F→:話才說完 樓下那篇就馬上把這當媒黑在用 XD10/11 01:13
6F→:好快 馬上就自D了嗎 XD10/11 01:18
2F推:就前文語氣看來 我覺得最後一句有種反諷的感覺 = =|||10/11 00:59
17F→:囧> 這是媒體報導當然跟媒抗有關啊 J大你認為呢?10/11 11:09
18F推:我不見得認同文章內容 但是我認同有關媒體的一切討論 推10/11 11:11
1F→:像某sh大之前只會叫人家吃大便的噓文就讓我覺得很糟= =a10/09 20:11
4F推:喔 我說的是曾在我的文內推"吃大便"的另一個SH大10/10 21:32
5F→:你要跳出來這樣對號入座的"不悅和不齒" 我也沒辦法10/10 21:33
7F→:畢竟我從來就沒有你所說的對你"放冷箭"10/10 21:34
8F→:另外 原PO應該沒學好邏輯 某SH大並不代表所有SH開頭ID10/10 21:35
10F→:所以也沒原PO所說的"對得起這些人嗎"的問題10/10 21:36
11F→:終歸一句 別的SH開頭ID都還沒說話呢 請原PO別對號入座10/10 21:37
12F→:當然 推文內只有叫人吃大便的內容 我是看不到什麼理性10/10 21:38
15F→:沒有人對號入座我有辦法這裡跟原PO推文嗎??10/10 21:40
16F→:我單純尊重它人不想PO出它人ID 請原PO勿任意解讀10/10 21:41
18F→:沒在我的文內推"吃大便"的 應該都知道我不是在說他們吧?10/10 21:42
20F→:這樣又何來原PO的"陰"呢??10/10 21:43
21F→:沒在我的文內推"吃大便"的 當然知道我不是在說他們10/10 21:43
23F推:sh開頭id曾在我文中噓"吃大便"的 用一隻手也數的出來啊10/10 21:47
24F→:原PO要把人挑出來批鬥也不是這樣的吧? 我可不覺得我在這10/10 21:53
25F→:個版的發言有不符合本版版旨過10/10 21:53
26F→:另給一樓 是不是去過政黑的 在這裡的理性發言都可以當做10/10 21:55
27F→:"小丑"呢??10/10 21:55
28F→:當然 如果一樓指的是某E大與非原PO的SH大 我無所謂10/10 21:56
29F→:我的原則是 有人理性來討論我就理性討論 有人來情緒性的10/10 21:58
30F→:推文我就跟他玩 就這樣而已10/10 21:59
35F推:樓樓樓樓上的sh大 我指的就是你 請問有什麼感想??10/11 00:35
38F推:"SH"iboo摟 我把salon當做一個單字看 所以把它當形容詞10/11 00:50
39F推:那我以後直接叫撒大好了 免得有人再說閒話 = =a10/11 00:53
42F推:我都已經說過是在我的文中推過"吃大便"的了 何來指錯??10/11 06:55
43F→:沒有指錯又何來道歉??10/11 06:55
48F→:就算是在政黑我也是很收斂的 應不至於會像XD大所講如此10/11 10:08
10F→:話說雖然發文方式有所爭議 但是本意也算是平衡當初一系10/10 13:22
11F→:列調查"統媒"的文章之一 這點而言不給你噓10/10 13:23
12F噓:但是要轉文時請註明資料來源 這點我必定要噓10/10 13:26
2F→:囧> 一樓這話的意思是......??10/09 23:32
7F推:推原po 沒有適當規定 就會像現在這樣媒體與政治大混戰10/09 22:57
8F→:要不然乾脆把這裡改成媒黑算了 根本就不用理性討論啦10/09 22:58
9F→:還有 二樓 你的推文內容等級等級跟某E大差不多了 請注意10/09 22:59
18F推:講政治也是可以啊 可是還是要以媒體為主體性吧??10/09 23:24
19F→:可是有些文很明顯是以立場優先 把原本討論媒體的精神給10/09 23:27
20F→:放在一旁了 這才是我說的問題 / \10/09 23:27
21F→:原po的表格其實可以拿來提醒大家要以媒體為主體 我覺得10/09 23:28
22F→:這樣的格式如果能提醒版眾的話 非硬性提供也好10/09 23:29
40F推:哈哈哈 原來"染紅"是由某些版友自由心證嗎?? 真棒10/10 20:59
12F→:話說我看到中天有報 還包括股價油價的影響的報導10/09 23:06
13F→:不過畫面大多是引用CNN或NHK的就是了.....10/09 23:07
2F→:照T大這樣說法 只要報倒扁新聞的都算幫忙傳遞訊息了10/09 23:01
3F推:內文的"傳遞訊息"應該是指10/10幫倒扁總部傳遞指令吧10/09 23:04
4F推:可是碰到不合版旨或內含政治(如某e 某p) 我還是會噓文耶10/09 20:03
11F推:b大說的沒錯 版主有種已消失的感覺......@@"10/09 20:10
15F→:像某sh大之前只會叫人家吃大便的噓文就讓我覺得很糟= =a10/09 20:11
18F→:非理性的版友 是怎麼噓文也趕不走的啊 唉10/09 20:13
19F→:XD 可是我覺得某E大所說的的確發生在某些版友生上 只是10/09 20:14
20F→:他說的太誇大了一點而已 = =a10/09 20:14
21F→:像是用抗媒體來順便檢討政黨的文 前面某P大就有發過啊10/09 20:15
26F→:但是某E大任意於它版婊這版 被誤會的是大多數中立的版友10/09 20:16
27F→:囧> B大別激動 我還沒打完嘛...10/09 20:17
30F→:所以 我覺得版主該站出來 一方面將亂在外攻擊本版的版10/09 20:19
31F→:友懲處 一方面嚴格監督版內政文滲入媒抗文的問題 這樣子10/09 20:20
32F→:會亂版的小白應該就沒有什麼話好說了10/09 20:21
33F→:畢竟這兩個問題都只是少數版友問題 嚴格懲處監督的話應10/09 20:22
34F→:該就會有所改善了10/09 20:23
35F→:囧> 資歷尚淺的我的一點意見啦 參考看看10/09 20:23
40F推:囧> J大啊 我勸你還是一起來理性討論媒體亂象比較好10/09 23:10
41F→:為了少數亂源而自己也跟著成為亂源之一 不值得的(茶)10/09 23:10
43F→:囧> b大這話說的也是有道理.....10/09 23:12
44F→:可是如果能多一個理性討論的人畢竟是好事 雖然機會不高10/09 23:14