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1F推:"詐彈""食在恐怖"並不是文字上的錯誤啊140.116.118.183 10/29 10:59
2F→:最多只能算諧音雙關吧? 也不到腥風血雨140.116.118.183 10/29 11:00
3F→:外國英文報導也有一堆愛玩這種東西的140.116.118.183 10/29 11:01
4F推:原PO你自己在11823篇講的很清楚啦140.116.118.183 10/28 17:12
5F推:現在情況是版規也沒說明到底政論節目算140.116.118.183 10/28 17:14
6F→:不算媒亂 才會出現"一個標準各自表述"140.116.118.183 10/28 17:15
90F推:一個是吃不到 一個是吃不起 要說不一樣也只是程度問題?10/23 00:07
103F→:原來香菜白菜都變成跟法拉利一樣價值這麼高了喔?10/23 00:08
110F→:事實就是菜價的確有漲 還不少 如果沒有也不會有人有共鳴10/23 00:09
124F推:DPP 2000大選廣告諷刺KMT讓人民連蔥都吃不起10/23 00:11
126F→:換了位子也換了腦子?10/23 00:11
165F推:同意 問題根本不在供需 放再多庫存出來也沒用10/23 00:15
182F推:^^" 我可是幾乎每周都跟母親去菜市場的呢10/23 00:17
191F→:敢說菜價沒有不正常漲幅的 自己去菜市場看看喔^^"10/23 00:18
241F推:問題在於為什麼日用品會漲成這樣吧? 這不是政府問題嗎?10/23 00:25
275F推:就事論事就是現在菜價的確是不正常在漲 請政府處理10/23 00:29
290F推:政府該做的都做了還解決不了問題 就是政府無能啊10/23 00:31
43F推:NCC是藍機關就不會撤陳為民了啦 高興都來不及勒10/20 10:39
54F推:神龍有專業考量我相信 你確定主辦者也會有專業考量?10/20 10:44
56F→:上面一個命令 下面就算硬著頭皮也得搞出來呵10/20 10:44
63F→:作戰是以最少犧牲達成最大目標 表演也像作戰一樣嗎?10/20 10:46
67F→:至少演習的時候 警察不需要真槍實彈來演練10/20 10:48
69F→:神龍可是真的要從高空上跳下來的耶@@10/20 10:48
74F→:博愛特區裡面一堆大樓電線桿 是四平八穩在那....10/20 10:49
95F推:問題是國外比賽也沒人敢把降落場地放在都市裡?10/20 10:55
96F→:沒人說神龍水準不高啊= =10/20 10:56
99F→:至少我看過的 都是降落在一大片空地上....10/20 10:57
108F→:兩方想法完全不一樣 一方以好看為上 一方以安全為上10/20 11:01
109F→:再講下去也不會有啥交集...10/20 11:01
116F→:不是正式作戰 就要避免無意義的犧牲啊10/20 11:03
121F→:難道阿兵哥都是可以隨便死免錢的? 更別說是技術性人員10/20 11:04
124F→:培養一個出來要花多少錢 當然是能儘量不犧牲就避免吧...10/20 11:05
130F→:至少就是因為避免犧牲 所以演習都不用真槍實彈啊10/20 11:06
4F推:文內提的一堆文藝新聞 AVBS冥視忠天三蒞黏代都沒看過啊10/19 15:34
7F→:要轉應該是轉媒亂才對10/19 15:34
48F噓:這年頭連反串都要用免洗了10/17 16:14
86F噓:原PO反串真用心10/17 16:24
95F→:要說懷疑 手上要有相對應的證據吧?10/17 16:26
100F→:吳敦義錯是錯在沒證據前就亂懷疑他人10/17 16:27
105F→:沒證據就不要放那個屁 等選上了再來找證據10/17 16:27
110F→:不然這樣亂"懷疑"他人 跟DPP有啥不同?>10/17 16:28
112F→:拿出能證明自己清白的證據就好了10/17 16:28
115F→:拿陳文成當年的驗屍證明出來啊10/17 16:29
119F→:說做賊喊抓賊的 似乎也沒證據說是KMT做的?10/17 16:30
121F→:那這種言論跟放砲吳有什麼不同?10/17 16:30
130F→:重點是有一分證據說一分話 亂懷疑就是不對 兩方都一樣10/17 16:31
11F→:重點在大話跟2100都不在這討論範圍內?140.116.118.183 10/15 22:57
12F→:其它政論節目大概也是如此140.116.118.183 10/15 22:58
15F→:有啦 可是是瑞士中央銀行出的錢140.116.118.183 10/15 23:07
16F→:諾貝爾一開始的遺書上是沒有經濟學獎的140.116.118.183 10/15 23:08
21F→:XD 的確是瑞典 手誤打錯了140.116.118.183 10/15 23:30
22F→:畢竟諾貝爾是瑞典人 一下沒反應過來XD140.116.118.183 10/15 23:31
60F推:重點在第一段前四行 而非後兩行吧140.116.118.183 10/08 21:24
63F→:難道光是前四行所提出的點不足以為媒亂?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:27
64F→:當事人都已經說明會配合政府要求了140.116.118.183 10/08 21:27
71F推:首先 當事者都已經說明會合乎政府要求140.116.118.183 10/08 21:35
73F→:而政府在維持飛安下 必然會禁止放氣球140.116.118.183 10/08 21:36
74F→:而這樣正吻合受訪者所說之"配合政府"140.116.118.183 10/08 21:36
77F→:范不是說過"會合乎政府的要求?"140.116.118.183 10/08 21:37
81F→:說不定是下次大型活動用啊? 不無可能吧140.116.118.183 10/08 21:39
82F→:媒體該在這點上查證卻沒查 然後下定論140.116.118.183 10/08 21:39
83F→:還下了個靠猜測的定論 這個算媒亂吧?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:40
89F推:XD 陳洛薇大小姐的報導嗎 可信度?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:44
92F→:這名字前一陣子在版上很紅的呢 去查查吧140.116.118.183 10/08 21:46
93F→:不然問問長期在這的版友也可以140.116.118.183 10/08 21:46
98F→:何況i版友這篇是5號的新聞了140.116.118.183 10/08 21:47
102F→:就不許范可欽在這兩天內改變主意?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:49
103F→:第二篇連結更早 八月的XD140.116.118.183 10/08 21:49
108F推:對啦 那媒體該不該報導清楚協議範圍?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:52
109F→:該不該報導究竟在場外放會不會影響飛安?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:53
110F→:都沒有就下個這麼武斷的結論?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:53
112F→:那也要看你所定義的場外是多場外140.116.118.183 10/08 21:54
114F→:你問的問題我也想問啊XD 媒體有報嗎?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:55
115F→:這些答案才能導出媒體所下的結論140.116.118.183 10/08 21:55
116F→:可是似乎沒有任何報導?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:56
118F→:質疑? 質疑會連個問號都沒有?140.116.118.183 10/08 21:57
120F→:更別說連查證的動作都沒做完整就質疑140.116.118.183 10/08 21:58
122F→:如果你認為無證據的質疑叫平衡報導 請便140.116.118.183 10/08 21:59
125F→:喔 這裡是指無視於受訪者發言就下定論140.116.118.183 10/08 22:00
126F→:那平衡報導所需要的相關查證呢?140.116.118.183 10/08 22:01
129F→:重點在於三立並未作相關查證就下定論140.116.118.183 10/08 22:01
131F→:光是購買汽球就可以有很多不同解釋140.116.118.183 10/08 22:02
133F→:難道你要說台灣買軍購是為了反攻大陸?140.116.118.183 10/08 22:03
134F→:1.范表示會配合政府要求140.116.118.183 10/08 22:03
136F→:2.政府當天必定會對飛安有所要求140.116.118.183 10/08 22:04
137F→:以這兩點來看 根本導不出三立所下的結論140.116.118.183 10/08 22:04
182F推:針對ijofi版友在22:06的推文140.116.118.183 10/08 23:10
184F→:起碼在法律上你要質疑一個人有犯罪行為140.116.118.183 10/08 23:11
186F→:實所需要的證據 絕對比三立目前所提出來140.116.118.183 10/08 23:11
188F→:的還要多 而三立身為有查證能力的媒體卻140.116.118.183 10/08 23:12
190F→:不進行進一步查證便下結論 很"媒亂"?140.116.118.183 10/08 23:12
210F推:就是因為關係密切 所做的報導才會偏頗140.116.118.183 10/09 00:52
215F推:陳的報導是5號的 三立這則是8號的140.116.118.183 10/09 00:56
217F→:以時間先後 看不出其中"又要放"的邏輯吧140.116.118.183 10/09 00:56
218F→:的確 不到國慶日是無法確定的140.116.118.183 10/09 00:59
221F推:我是認為 點名指出媒體錯在哪不算批鬥?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:03
222F→:何況 三立似乎也提不出相對有力的反駁?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:03
225F→:起碼要有紅衫軍發言人身份吧140.116.118.183 10/09 01:10
226F→:也不是隨便拉個穿紅衣的就可以代表了?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:10
227F→:總部當然只限於負責自己發起的活動140.116.118.183 10/09 01:11
231F推:但是你並不會因為某位民進黨員喊台灣國140.116.118.183 10/09 01:17
232F→:就會認為民進黨的整個方針就是這樣吧?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:17
233F→:個人跟團體的負責區塊還是有差的140.116.118.183 10/09 01:18
234F→:更何況三立取的反駁證據是范的說法140.116.118.183 10/09 01:21
235F→:而他當天是說還沒決定什麼行動的140.116.118.183 10/09 01:21
236F→:棄發言人說法而報導非發言人說法為正統?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:23
239F推:是三立沒採取范針對行動內容說法做報導140.116.118.183 10/09 01:25
241F→:所以都還沒說沒做 媒體就可先報了?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:26
242F→:因為消息真真假假 媒體就可隨之起舞?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:27
244F→:那跟偏頗的中蝕連河有何不同?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:27
246F→:對啊 所以媒抗版當時還吐這消息一頓啊140.116.118.183 10/09 01:28
248F→:同樣標準 我看不出來為何對三立可以不同140.116.118.183 10/09 01:29
250F→:媒體有問題卻不承認自己有問題的部份140.116.118.183 10/09 01:30
252F→:這纔是媒抗版所要指出的媒體錯誤吧?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:30
255F→:起碼以三立所拿出來的反駁來看 十分無力140.116.118.183 10/09 01:31
257F→:這裡是媒抗 當然是以鞭媒體為主不是?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:32
258F→:三立自己拿出的反駁無力 當然是三立有誤140.116.118.183 10/09 01:32
259F→:不然它大可以拿比范說法更有力的反駁140.116.118.183 10/09 01:33
261F→:問題就在於范說法是三立自己拿出反駁的140.116.118.183 10/09 01:34
262F→:三立指此為報導之求證 但是如此薄弱140.116.118.183 10/09 01:36
265F→:但是當事人都說當天還沒決定什麼行動了140.116.118.183 10/09 01:38
266F→:媒體可以報只是"有可能"但並未確定之事?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:39
267F→:那媒體還要求證做什麼?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:40
269F→:尚未決定之事 何來行程表?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:40
271F→:這是壓著"虛"的報導要人生份"實"物出來140.116.118.183 10/09 01:41
272F→:媒體可以報只是"有可能"但並未確定之事?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:42
273F→:那媒體還要求證做什麼?140.116.118.183 10/09 01:42
276F推:紅衫軍已經明確回應"尚無確定行動了"140.116.118.183 10/09 01:44
277F→:這跟準備行動是兩碼子事140.116.118.183 10/09 01:44
278F→:法律上"尚無犯意"跟"預謀犯案"都有差耶140.116.118.183 10/09 01:45
280F→:三立自己拿出來的報導求證跟結論有誤差140.116.118.183 10/09 01:47
281F→:這個是不爭的事實140.116.118.183 10/09 01:47
282F→:至於紅衫軍操作媒體 我雖亦不屑 但並不140.116.118.183 10/09 01:48
283F→:影響三立在這點有問題的情況140.116.118.183 10/09 01:49
288F→:你認為對雙方都保留 我則認為兩方都有錯140.116.118.183 10/09 01:57
289F→:我想這個就是雙方的共識了吧XD140.116.118.183 10/09 01:58
290F→:這個就是價值觀的問題了 再討論也無用140.116.118.183 10/09 01:59
295F推:12464廢噓到底干這篇什麼事呢?140.116.118.183 10/09 20:20
138F推:PRC政府早八輩子該翻了 不知對岸人民在等什麼?09/26 01:50
149F推:少來了 冥視跟泣就有報的跟原PO講的一樣詳細嗎?09/26 01:53
150F→:媒體都不敢得罪有錢人09/26 01:53
154F→:做實驗 法輪大法好09/26 01:55
157F→:可悲 寧願替無能政府講話 也不願為自己人民發聲09/26 01:56
158F→:被洗腦洗的太徹底了?09/26 01:56
2F推:在ACG被污名化的當頭 這篇更顯珍貴啊...220.132.0.118 09/11 19:15