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8F推: 一拿起來沒摸到牌就聽不是天聽嗎？10/21 08:42
11F噓: 能過水跟解過水不衝突啊，這什麼新手問題，先不論是05/14 12:13
12F→: 不是migi，我早聽好幾個洞很漂亮，想拚自摸，有人05/14 12:13
13F→: 放槍不胡，就是要解過水才能再胡牌啊......不然上家05/14 12:13
14F→: 放槍，我下一張馬上摸牌自摸，你看其他三家會是什05/14 12:14
15F→: 麼反應05/14 12:14
16F噓: 能過水的場，只要你不是migi跟眼牌，都可以解水啊，05/14 12:19
17F→: 這麼簡單的道理，很難懂？05/14 12:19
18F噓: 不能過水的場，就不管有沒有migi眼牌，都不能過水，05/14 12:21
19F→: 也沒有解過水的機會啊......05/14 12:21
20F→: 麻煩自己google台麻過水跟解過水的定義好嗎？05/14 12:22
21F噓: 過水是指能胡牌時不胡，上家放槍我沒胡，此時我在過05/14 12:33
22F→: 水狀態，必須解過水打出一張非胡之牌，解除過水狀態05/14 12:33
23F→: ，才能在下一輪胡牌，懂？05/14 12:33
24F噓: 不能過水的場，上家放槍你沒胡，就算你下一張牌摸05/14 12:38
25F→: 到非胡之牌打出，如果別差太多輪，後面有人放槍你胡05/14 12:38
26F→: 了，厲害一點的都可以回推你前面是不是有過水，甚05/14 12:38
27F→: 至有的場都有監視器在拍，監視器回放馬上就抓包了05/14 12:38
9F→: 上面說自摸打哪張都是非胡之牌的，要不要拿副牌自己05/06 13:03
10F→: 擺擺看，自摸成立卻打掉的情況下，隨便打哪張都是胡05/06 13:03
11F→: 的牌啊......05/06 13:03
3F→: 剩三手，海底只出一張七萬，還敢打萬子？？？02/06 17:39
7F→: 多的是中後段聽海底打過的......如果海底只有一張七02/06 17:47
8F→: 萬，打萬子反而是最危險的02/06 17:48
8F推: 很早的時候我會打7萬01/10 12:03
35F噓: 過水不是能胡牌卻不胡牌，還有分自己跟別人？漲知09/23 12:09
36F→: 識了09/23 12:09
1F→: 你是莊家？理論上莊家沒有天聽的09/08 19:11
8F→: 天聽是指完全沒有摸牌的情況下聽牌，台麻莊家配牌是09/08 23:35
9F→: 含開門那一張共17張，所以莊家有天胡沒天聽09/08 23:35
20F→: 如果是樓上那個狀況，假設我莊家起手沒開門16張喊09/10 16:56
21F→: 聽牌，這時候天聽了，然後我開門那一張馬上胡牌，09/10 16:56
22F→: 請問這樣是天聽+天胡嗎？這個例子應該就可以看出為09/10 16:56
23F→: 什麼莊家有天胡沒天聽了吧09/10 16:56
24F→: 另外上面有人提到，莊家配牌16張喊聽牌，開門那一張09/10 16:58
25F→: 是花怎麼辦？直接相公包起來？09/10 16:58
28F→: 你莊家不開門補牌直接喊聽，其它三家補完牌等莊家摸09/10 17:52
29F→: 第一張出牌，莊家摸到花不是相公是什麼？09/10 17:52
41F→: 回應樓上，有的場是4張一人一手，有的場是8張一人09/18 14:24
42F→: 兩手，還有的場是5張莊家有第二張的機會，以上給你09/18 14:24
43F→: 參考09/18 14:24
46F推: 不吃不碰兩手共8張沒毛病啊XD09/18 17:13
15F推: 樓上是不是搞不清楚狀況啊，原文一開始就被嗆不能胡09/05 11:00
16F→: 西風了，不能胡西風何來的過水？有夠莫名其妙的，09/05 11:01
17F→: 不能胡西風，然後有人打西風還要被判過水包，笑死，09/05 11:01
18F→: 都給你們玩就好了09/05 11:01
3F推: A胡啊，跟樓上同樣的看法口說不算，A翻開確認有理05/21 08:21
10F→: 樓上那個叫天胡不是嗎？05/02 17:35