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14F→: 謝謝各位！我再查查日文怎麼說Orz09/15 00:41
16F→:如果只動到大樓一部份，那是基於安全人道考量，整棟拆除03/23 16:25
17F→:整棟住戶安置，還是拆多少算多少就好？自救會的方案一直03/23 16:26
18F→:進逼西側與「遠東」住戶是不爭的事實。03/23 16:26
19F→:自救會的作法亦愈來愈與擾民最少背道而馳。03/23 16:27
27F推:遠東是指鐵路東側比原定拆遷範圍更東邊的住戶XD03/23 17:38
29F推:我知道你知道，只是想到會不會有人誤會補充一下xd03/23 17:59
14F推:現在是自救會要自己找人背書，不是用只有王偉民一個人作03/23 13:39
15F→:為藉口。可以反過來想為什麼他們不找其他專業共同討論？03/23 13:39
27F推:六公尺寬平行巷道03/23 13:42
30F→:4.5M這個卻有疑慮，但北高兩地地下化早已是用4.5M，自救03/23 13:43
33F→:會也認同核定版此數值，沒什麼好辯的吧。03/23 13:43
36F→:已經改為4.5了，別再鬧了。03/23 13:44
37F→:自救會也同意了，沒什麼好再凹的。如果要針對這一點，側03/23 13:44
39F→:牆厚度7~80CM的差怎麼不來講。03/23 13:44
43F→:自己去GOOGLE。03/23 13:45
46F→:連續壁總共增加80cm，外側溝有沒有算？確定不會多拆房？03/23 13:46
50F→:因此第八點就是說，徵用後居民不見得就會回原地住，可以03/23 13:47
51F→:選擇住在政府另外安置的房子，再保有原地土地權，然後該03/23 13:47
52F→:地無法成為疏解交通流量之用的馬路的意思？03/23 13:48
55F→:也因此是否間接表示自救會認同徵用拿回來的地無法全居民03/23 13:49
56F→:皆可收回原始大小土地？其間的差異要怎麼作才公平？03/23 13:49
57F→:4.11、4.5的差異可逕自去函問交通部鐵工局。03/23 13:50
60F→:如果部份居民選擇原地興建居住有些選擇政府安置地點，那03/23 13:50
63F→:不能熟悉的生活環境的情感訴求又變成空包彈？03/23 13:51
64F→:地下化結構會有禁建問題03/23 13:51
67F→:基於安全有禁建範圍後，就表示你的房子極為可能無法依原03/23 13:52
69F→:始大小的土地面積去興建樓房。不幸的如果有人可建範圍剩03/23 13:52
70F→:廁所大小，是不是就會選政府安置地點？03/23 13:53
71F→:你興建樓房會不會破壞地下化結構又是一個問題。03/23 13:53
72F→:自救會若認同核定版的施工標準，拆遷數不可能少03/23 13:54
73F→:很明顯你的興建結構範圍會擴大，會比核定版少根本天方夜03/23 13:54
74F→:譚。第七點的「簡單來說」就是會瞎唬嚨。前因後果咧？03/23 13:55
75F→:然後通篇只針對地面上的影響減少，毫無納入施工人員安危03/23 13:57
76F→:的考量。偉民，偉哉。03/23 13:57
88F推:沒有其他土木專家第三方認證的方案確定可行w03/23 14:21
89F→:確定可行就不會有所謂概念圖這種東西了03/23 14:21
111F噓:依法？沒有跟核定版標準一樣還敢說XD03/23 14:33
113F→:4.11或4.5確實有疑慮。尚待鐵工局出來交待。03/23 14:35
114F→:然後除卻這個，自救會也認同核定版此標準了。03/23 14:35
120F→:臺灣鐵路軌距寬度規定兩軌中心間距需要4M以上，適法性而03/23 14:39
121F→:言雙方都成立，但是4.5為全臺慣用標準，另有其它任何專03/23 14:40
123F→:業考量，應該也是自救會要去釐清的。而不是聚焦在抹不抹03/23 14:40
124F→:黑，而我也認同鐵工局應當出來說明。03/23 14:40
129F→:而4.5M早在2/6工程技術論壇上有解釋過。自救會沒講？03/23 14:41
132F→:我還期待有與會的自救會照實轉達鐵工局說明改成4.5M的規03/23 14:42
133F→:定，但是事後很抱歉看不到。03/23 14:42
135F→:而改成4.5M如果適法性有極大缺失，請問自救會是不是應該03/23 14:43
136F→:打擊這一點質問到底，現在認同此標準是否等同認為沒有適03/23 14:43
137F→:法性的問題？03/23 14:43
138F→:如果兩軌中心間距有問題，那自救會的側牆薄到無法設置通03/23 14:44
140F→:訊救災設備，請問要如何自清他們多麼重視施工人員的安危03/23 14:44
141F→:？03/23 14:44
142F→:鐵工局此部份確有瑕疵，仍不改自救會版本風險高的缺點。03/23 14:45
145F→:軌距與中心間距的規定關係也GOOGLE得到。03/23 14:46
146F→:我更認為不應以減少影響範圍犧牲上百上千人的安危！03/23 14:46
154F推:自救會認同的就是最新的此版本。03/23 14:48
162F推:好吧，你要跳10KM這種不現實的詞我也懶得講了。03/23 14:51
169F推:喔喔@@03/23 14:53
225F推:但是對於賴在施政報告上決定採用核定版就說他是騙子的自03/23 16:23
226F→:救會而言，完善處理僅等於接受他們的方案。03/23 16:24
227F→:無視已經有里民里長表示補償方案夠他們願意接受。03/23 16:24
239F推:重點是自救會方無限上綱的不相信政府的一切作為…這很輩03/23 16:40
240F→:很難協商吧。03/23 16:40
241F→:如果真有用，工程技術論壇開完後應該很快就能結案了。03/23 16:41
242F→:而不是事後又在網路上講自己要求政府找來的40位學者是打03/23 16:41
243F→:手有的沒的…看看沒展現商討空間的是誰~"~03/23 16:42
1F推:最可怕的是阿嬤不知道自救會的版本還是得拆房子！03/15 00:03
2F→:偉哉自救會，你們到底對407戶人家說了什麼做了什麼？03/15 00:03
3F→:有時間在FB專頁貼靜心語錄還不如去好好告訴他們吧！03/15 00:03
17F推:可憐，一樣是臺南人還要戰二空…哎…03/15 00:32
18F→:二空還比榮譽街的老房子多人去參觀吧(誤)03/15 00:32
23F推:這則影片另一個讓人驚豔的點，就是市長居然可以這樣泰然03/15 01:01
24F→:說明自救會版與行政院核定版施工的差異耶！03/15 01:01
25F→:讓人想起先前颱風、豪雨假事件，賴真的很尊重專業、聽取03/15 01:02
26F→:專業才會有明確行動，不會一知半解下就亂衝。03/15 01:02
2F→:KERKER~03/14 16:50
3F→:應該是吧，我不是很清楚…但我看是沒問題說@@02/21 22:08
6F→:一樓要不要換別的瀏覽器開看看？或用下載軟體抓下來在02/21 22:22
7F→:電腦裡閱覽？02/21 22:22
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