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20F→:一共5局，你算術錯了。08/02 18:57
89F推:就事論事，不到什麼以德抱怨，也就是以直抱怨而已。08/02 15:17
93F→:楊淑君被裱是事實，申雅嵐也是。08/02 15:17
12F→:這次是中國組合自己打輸丹麥才會這樣的啊。08/02 12:32
6F→:2、體力也是比賽的一部分。 3什麼叫無意義，基本上可以把08/02 12:30
7F→:一場奧運比賽當成無意義就有問題了吧。08/02 12:30
9F→:馬拉松和羽球要用的肌肉和體力需求根本不同好嗎？不要胡扯08/02 12:36
13F→:可以省體力當然要省，但賽制大家都要打這麼多就是要比體力08/02 12:52
3F→:昨天有人po過文了08/02 11:43
7F推:推，護航的人會無視規則。08/02 11:14
14F推:謝謝整理08/02 11:41
32F噓:垃圾時間會去投自己的籃嗎？08/02 10:51
37F→:連輕鬆打和故意輸都分不出來嗎？08/02 10:52
41F→:昨天那種表現才是把自己當耍猴，自眨身價。08/02 10:53
57F噓:看到id，昨天推夠多不想再講了。08/02 10:57
65F→:贊同樓上08/02 10:59
66F→:抱歉是樓樓樓上j大08/02 10:59
69F→:如果棒球一開始就打者打到球故意往三壘跑，觀眾會不批？08/02 11:00
70F→:足球員去攻自己球門，大家會無視覺得ok？08/02 11:01
76F→:不管什麼比賽都是不適當的吧，只是有些小比賽淘這個魄力。08/02 11:02
78F→:挑對手會打者故意打到球往三壘跑自殺嗎？08/02 11:03
82F→:挑對手當然不對，但就算派較差投手，起碼派出的選手盡力打08/02 11:03
86F→:k兄再問你一次你覺得打出全壘打故意不跑壘死掉你覺得ok嗎？08/02 11:05
91F→:強打者丟歪保送的目的是要贏球好嗎？08/02 11:07
93F→:一場比賽連續發生打出安打不跑壘死掉輸球，k大你可以接受？08/02 11:07
95F→:然後對手開始連續投手犯規拼命保送。08/02 11:08
97F→:打成這樣，基本上這已經是自己不認同這項運動了。08/02 11:09
99F→:警告幾次都沒人理啊。08/02 11:10
103F→:還在鬼扯保留體力，昨天那根本不是保留體力好嗎？08/02 11:11
104F→:保留體力可以去搶接明顯界外球？08/02 11:11
116F→:故意四壞球是為了贏又不是為了輸08/02 11:41
117F→:運動員可以為了自己，但老實說本人真的願意打這種丟臉的球08/02 11:42
118F→:還是其實是被迫去污辱她們自己喜愛的運動。08/02 11:43
122F→:故意四壞球是棒球運動本身的一部分，但故意發球失誤不是。08/02 11:51
123F→:如果可以為了金牌而放水，那為了拿錢打假球也ok了？08/02 11:51
126F→:你是不懂棒球還是什麼？故意四壞球都有正式記錄了，怎不是08/02 11:58
127F→:一般棒球比賽的一部分。08/02 11:58
130F→:至於s大說「為了最後的贏」，並不是為了這個就什麼都能做。08/02 12:02
131F→:就像禁藥不能吃，違規的事不能做一樣，放水也是一樣。08/02 12:02
132F→:觀眾為什麼會不想看故意四壞？我是觀眾如果看到該保送不保08/02 12:03
133F→:送傻傻對決我才會生氣。08/02 12:03
134F→:說不能保送 有點像是說 下棋不能被吃子一樣好笑。08/02 12:04
136F→:你是真的懂棒球嗎？08/02 12:05
137F→:棒球是團體運動又不是個人運動。08/02 12:05
139F→:如果你雙打可以犧牲一個人讓這場比賽贏，那當然不算放水。08/02 12:07
140F→:比如假如兩個人強弱不同的時候，避開讓弱點對到對方高手。08/02 12:07
141F→:這是合理戰術，就像故意保送一樣。跟她放水差太多了。08/02 12:08
143F→:當然不一樣啊，一個是一場比賽內（運動本身）的一部分。08/02 12:12
144F→:一個是犧牲運動本身來追求其他目的，簡單說請看下一篇吧。08/02 12:12
145F→:規則寫的很清楚，該「場」比賽沒有全力求勝。08/02 12:13
148F→:如果沒有的話，你覺得不全力求勝是「可以」的嗎？08/02 12:15
149F→:雖然我不敢確定是否全力求勝（因為沒有羽球那麼明顯）08/02 12:16
150F→:但你覺得如果不全力求勝這是沒問題的嗎？08/02 12:16
151F→:就算沒被抓到，你覺得放水是對的嗎？08/02 12:16
152F→:如果你多看幾年國際賽，應該會知道中華隊輸中國隊一次是遲08/02 12:17
154F→:早的事，雖然我們勝力還比較強。但其差距輸一次並不奇怪。08/02 12:18
156F→:是啊，打得不好，所以被罵了啊。你要幫護航嗎？08/02 12:18
157F→:如果有放水當然就要罵，打不好也可以罵，但中華職棒並沒強08/02 12:19
158F→:到和中國打保證不會輸的程度。08/02 12:19
159F→:有人懷疑是打假的就被罵了，這次羽球明顯放水你還要護航？08/02 12:20
161F→:兩者程度差遠了，要接不接偶爾放生是可能的，羽球是整場沒08/02 12:21
162F→:一球正常的。重點不在這而是你覺得放水可接受嗎？08/02 12:21
164F→:不管是棒球羽球，放水都不可接受啊。還是你覺得可以？08/02 12:22
166F→:所以你覺得放水不該罵？08/02 12:22
167F→:看不出來只是不確定而已，如果確定當然還是會罵啊。08/02 12:23
168F→:回到根本就是放水是不可接受的。08/02 12:23
169F→:就像職棒打假球，沒被抓到當然沒事，但抓到就是該罰啊。08/02 12:23
170F→:用賽制來護航也不會讓放水變得是對的事。08/02 12:24
172F→:制度有問題不代表教練球員沒錯，就這麼簡單。08/02 12:24
173F→:也有人說中職制度不好才會有假球啊，所以球員就沒錯？08/02 12:25
176F→:簡單說我的意見就是這樣啊，你還拿故意四壞來護航幹嘛…08/02 12:26
177F→:把沒錯的和有錯的一起比有意思嗎？08/02 12:28
181F→:不想繞圈子了，早就講過了，一個是正常戰術一個是亂打。08/02 12:33
182F→:那個難看有那麼難分嗎？08/02 12:34
189F→:連續四個故意四壞就是放水了，有什麼問題嗎？08/02 12:46
190F→:拿這種真的放水的來講故意四壞是在搞笑嗎？08/02 12:46
195F→:「故意四壞球本來就放水」 你真的懂棒球嗎？08/02 12:50
197F→:照你這種邏輯 打全壘打就是放水囉！08/02 12:50
3F→:重點在兩邊都想輸的時候，你慢一步放就會贏了。08/02 09:48
26F→:是印度沒錯啊，印度跟我們同組。08/01 23:15
46F→:這篇那來印尼啊。08/01 23:19