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24F→:一起取消資格吧。08/01 11:10
5F推:加油！很佩服她的努力！08/01 11:08
1F推:恭喜她囉！08/01 10:49
12F→:真的是五十步和百步08/01 11:04
3F→:一樓還在扯體力，故意去接界外球會省體力才有鬼。08/01 10:28
14F→:故意放水還不是假球，那還有什麼是假球。08/01 10:32
18F→:乾脆說資本主義讓大家看重錢，所以拿錢打假球也不怪運動員08/01 10:32
22F→:賽制不好是事實，但打假球也是事實。08/01 10:33
26F→:職棒打假球也沒傷害別隊啊，難道也沒錯？08/01 10:33
54F→:所以說如果職棒隊要挑冠賽對手，故意輸給某隊是ok的？08/01 10:40
59F→:為了這個目的一場十次失誤也ok？08/01 10:40
66F→:說什麼最好實力，根本差太多了。08/01 10:42
70F→:但他們不會去投自己的籃框好嗎？08/01 10:43
72F→:如果為了輸球一場十次烏龍球投自己的框，你覺得可以嗎？08/01 10:43
74F→:nba要是發生這種事你覺得會ok嗎？08/01 10:43
76F→:昨天那種比賽就等於是打籃球一直投自己的框。08/01 10:44
82F→:放板凳，如果板凳都全力打至少很ok啊。08/01 10:45
86F→:再問你一次如果nba 球員一直攻自己的框你覺得ok嗎？08/01 10:46
94F→:三分本庖就可能進可能不進，但昨天的比賽狀況不是三分不進08/01 10:51
95F→:這麼簡單。08/01 10:51
98F→:命中率低，發生幾次失誤都還可以解釋。昨天那個除了放水沒08/01 10:53
99F→:其他的可能。08/01 10:53
101F→:就像連投幾球烏龍球一樣，無法不以放水來解釋。08/01 10:53
102F→:抱歉我前面可能講得不夠清楚。08/01 10:54
106F→:b大我一直贊成你的看法。08/01 10:58
108F→:雙方就算保留實力輕鬆打，至少也要打出你職業的水準。08/01 11:01
112F→:mlb會出現能得分的球故意不跑壘的嗎？08/01 11:33
114F→:二線選手會故意失誤嗎？08/01 11:35
115F→:二線選手會故意暴投嗎？ 故意揮空，故意沒踩到壘？08/01 11:36
119F→:如果有的話你覺得是對的嗎？08/01 11:39
120F→:如果有就是假球了啊。派二線選手是練兵，但沒叫他們放水啊08/01 11:40
126F→:不是，練兵跟放水當然不同。08/01 11:50
130F→:這什麼歪理，照你的說法落後十分closer也應該上。08/01 12:02
131F→:職業球隊每場本來就有整體考量會派出每個球員。08/01 12:03
2F→:不要再混浠保留實力和打假球了好嗎？08/01 10:26
3F→:昨天那根本不是保留實力而是拼命故意輸。08/01 10:27
9F→:照這種目標說，那有人目標是賭博賺錢打假球也是合理的08/01 10:29
12F→:賽制有錯，不代表因此打假球就沒錯好嗎？兩者請分開看。08/01 10:35
13F→:因為賽制不好所以說打假球合理這才叫亂護航。08/01 10:35
18F→:跟舉重那有一樣，舉重會有人故意舉不起來？08/01 10:38
44F→:如果目的是幫忙擋風的話，羽球這場應該要贏才對啊。08/01 11:25
48F→:我的意思是，如果目的是要護對友，就不是像這樣故意避開08/01 11:27
51F→:另外，這個差異就是自行車比賽中擋風的行為是正常的，但羽08/01 11:29
52F→:球比賽中故意發不過或打出界不是正常的行為。08/01 11:30
56F→:如果他故意輸不是幫擋風而是自己把車砸了，這個就不同了。08/01 11:31
60F→:重點在是不是比賽常態的一部分。團體戰成常態大家可接受這08/01 11:38
61F→:是比賽的一種策略，它就沒問題。08/01 11:38
62F→:但羽球故意失誤這有那個觀眾會覺得很好？08/01 11:39
75F→:我就說了，現在這個運動主要的參與者和觀眾認可這個策略，08/01 11:43
78F→:它就是一種策略，就像偷取暗號有沒違反精神見仁見智。08/01 11:44
81F→:但羽球這個明顯無法認可。要是大家可以認可就不會有人批評08/01 11:44
83F→:賽制了。正是因為這種狀況不可接受才會認為賽制不好。08/01 11:45
87F→:不只是不求勝而已，我另文推文有推不求勝輕鬆打我可以接受08/01 11:46
88F→:但故意失誤無法接受，就像自行車故意摔車你可以接受嗎？08/01 11:46
94F→:事實上，幫忙擋車跟失誤（摔車）就是不一樣啊。08/01 11:49
99F→:差別是擋車在正常的比賽中就會出現。但故意失誤不會。08/01 11:57
100F→:況且賽制並不是極端的「輸家贏」，而只是遇到不同的對手。08/01 12:07
1F→:昨天那個還不叫假球？08/01 10:00
4F→:故意發球不過，故意打出界，故意去接界外球 不叫假球？08/01 10:00
13F→:消極應付跟批命求輸差很多好嗎？08/01 10:02
14F→:你有看過籃球輕鬆打去投對方籃框嗎？昨天他們做的就差不多08/01 10:03
19F→:足球員對著自己守門員一直射門。你看到不生氣我佩服你。08/01 10:05
23F→:保留實力跟故意輸還是有些不同吧。08/01 09:25
27F→:保留實力可能就是打得沒那麼拼，昨天那場連界外球還去接08/01 09:25
34F→:跑步游泳預賽保留實力但絕對不會「求輸」08/01 09:27
72F→:放強的下去休息只要替補認真打也很ok啊。08/01 09:44
73F→:現在這場根本不同好嗎。08/01 09:44
83F→:是沒必要死拼沒錯，但也沒必要「拼命輸」吧。08/01 09:49
84F→:輕鬆打可以，但明顯看起來打得並不輕鬆，而是「拼命輸」08/01 09:50
100F→:賽制可以檢討，但不代表這樣打就沒錯。08/01 09:57
107F→:跟利益有衝突就可以這樣亂打？那打假球的人也合情合理囉08/01 09:59
13F→:應該是有規定不能每個量級都派吧。08/01 09:07
87F→:一打二怎麼可能贏…07/31 21:12
127F→:羽球兩個人跟一個人差非常多。07/31 21:19