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2F推:穿鞋子02/09 12:34
1F推:我也認為孫權找關羽聯姻居心叵測，故關羽才拒絕送女作人質02/09 00:51
2F推:江表傳的確常有錯誤，只是不知在此處有何可疑之處？02/09 01:41
9F推:我的看法不同，虞翻傳都說全江陵城只有糜芳一人投降，代表02/09 12:05
10F→:當時在江陵城的潘濬跟孫權無任何關係，事後不欲見孫權更代02/09 12:07
11F→:表他對劉備的忠心和慚愧。只是不知C大的閉門戶是出自哪裡？02/09 12:09
16F推:個人認為這樣的可疑尚不足以推翻江表傳這份史料，故還是以02/09 17:30
17F→:江表傳的說法為準02/09 17:30
18F推:而且呂蒙的白衣渡江已經讓江陵城音訊全無了，到城下後迅速02/09 17:33
19F→:的控制全城並再一次造成音訊全無的現象是很容易的02/09 17:34
30F推:孫權已經進到江陵城(大約)，江陵將吏歸附孫權也沒什麼不對02/09 19:09
31F→:，而且史書沒記載潘濬的手下不願歸附孫權，不代表實際上沒02/09 19:09
32F→:有，我的論點在於虞翻都說江陵城只有糜芳一人是內應，這是02/09 19:11
33F→:確實的史料，並且跟你所謂細作全面滲透的說法相異，所以除02/09 19:12
34F→:非你推翻虞翻這個說法的史料，不然難以讓人接受您的推測02/09 19:14
39F推:所以我認為是糜芳的親兵開的門，而潘濬就是可能作亂的人，02/09 19:45
40F→:所以虞翻急著要呂蒙入城控制一切，也許入城後就軟禁了潘濬02/09 19:47
41F→:。而為什麼潘濬不派人通知關羽，也許呂蒙已經把江陵城圍死02/09 19:48
44F→:江陵城內的官吏直到呂蒙兵臨城下才知道大軍已至。02/09 19:49
46F→:我認為稱疾不見是孫權到江陵城後才有的動作，不代表他沒有02/09 19:51
47F→:被軟禁02/09 19:52
49F推:呂蒙的反應的確很怪，感覺好像變笨了，但如果真的那麼放心02/09 19:54
50F→:的話，那為什麼要採取虞翻的建議，迅速入城呢？02/09 19:54
53F推:而且照虞翻傳的記載，城中之人的確有叛變的計畫，結果因此02/09 20:05
54F→:而不行02/09 20:06
55F→:是阿，史料不足，一團迷霧。感謝C大的分享，討論中多有得罪02/09 20:07
56F→:抱歉m(_ _)m02/09 20:08
2F推:但是除了典略曾記載一件錯誤的關羽史事外，其他提到關羽惡02/09 01:33
3F→:待孫權方導致同盟關係惡劣的，都是吳國自說自話的史料02/09 01:35
1F推:謝謝^^02/05 23:04
3F推:但是紀信作戰好像沒有特別勇猛02/05 22:29
5F→:楊阜講這句話時提到的勇，該不是這個意思。不然還可以說布02/05 22:37
6F→:是季布了02/05 22:39