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38F推:做得還不錯啊,但是要推廣的話,還缺乏一點獨特性03/13 18:13
39F→:網域名稱也不錯,兩個音節的自創字蠻好記,重點是產品概念怎03/13 18:15
40F→:麼發展出新把戲,滿足更多實用性需求03/13 18:16
8F→:都可以,不放心的話就找PCHOME啊,至少有問題你能找客服03/11 20:05
22F→:恩 描述得很好,我無意間也引起這系列文,其實是希望對每個03/08 15:39
23F→:創業的組成要素客觀對待,每個細節都有值得重視的理由03/08 15:39
24F→:就像大家的觀點其實都有值得參考的地方03/08 15:45
1F推:的確光從成本來看就太高了,走同樣定位連Google都要陷苦戰03/08 18:37
2F推:推,跌倒了再爬起來,其實Now.in也知道問題所在,只是那天被03/08 18:18
3F→:搜索的打擊很大吧03/08 18:18
6F→:我想重點是有補教這塊市場需求的人,被聚集到這塊平台上,03/20 00:57
7F→:市場在哪錢就往哪,之後仍有引進廣告和商業合作的機會03/20 00:58
2F→:樓上,若有興趣,短話長說的觀點可以參考這篇03/07 00:56
3F→:http://moretactics.blogspot.com/2011/11/facebook.html03/07 00:56
6F→:也不是這樣啦,要挑戰臉書就不能做臉書,我之後會寫些看法03/08 23:50
10F推:恩恩!但我想他的意思是留住使用者,社群如果留不住人也枉然03/08 23:54
13F→:每個網站剛開始都是這樣,也因此用把妹這例子來凸顯領先者03/09 00:02
14F→:的規模優勢,用意是在提醒不要用copy的方式,否則對早期使用03/09 00:03
15F→:者來說,不如用臉書;相反的如果你成功差異化,就可以克服這03/09 00:03
16F→:問題,因為你解決的是和臉書不同的需求,試用者也能被留住了03/09 00:04
18F→:這可能就是口氣的問題了XD03/09 00:06
21F→:功能還不是很成熟的社群,至少在實名制和新生名簿上,在當時03/09 00:13
22F→:是新的產品概念,不是copy,較不容易出現內文提到的問題03/09 00:15
1F→:高價Idea在網創市場的確很少見,頂多只在微型創意市集可見03/06 17:43
2F→:然而IDEA(構想、創意),本身的確是能創造價值的,硬要找流程03/06 17:44
3F→:短的價值鏈來說,至少存在像發明專利,就說明Idea是有價值的03/06 17:46
5F→:是的,專利買賣平台的存在已久03/06 19:20
8F→:G+就是BM太類同所以打不破臉書的規模,不過我們剛好也做SNS03/06 15:26
9F→:,應該說G+連產品定位都一樣,說來弔詭,覺得要想挑戰臉書,就03/06 15:30
10F→:不能是做臉書03/06 15:30
13F→:樓上好像不錯(流口水)03/06 17:41
20F→:突然想到以前的Meeya就曾經做過了;後來好像還有-大福微博03/06 22:25
21F→:不過剛剛Google,後者也已經消失了03/06 22:25
1F→:我覺得到這一篇,都已經把IDEA和創業成果拆分,而且用$來衡03/06 03:12
2F→:量了,你可以推導出只有IDEA,什麼都不做,那可能最後賺$是003/06 03:12
3F→:問題在於價值只有錢嗎?如果你提供的東西是稀有的,相對可能03/06 03:15
4F→:就有價值,不然那些創意競賽、徵求IDEA競賽是辦假的嗎?03/06 03:15
5F→:你可以說有IDEA最後不一定賺得到錢,但你不能否認某個點子03/06 03:17
6F→:、某個創新的想法是比較有價值的03/06 03:18
7F→:今天十個創業計畫讓你挑出一個,問問為什麼會挑中它?03/06 03:19
9F→:就是因為在可行性、市場價值、創新度等等因素是較出色的,03/06 03:20
10F→:那就是價值03/06 03:20
12F→:OK,了解,不止用錢,但我想強調是你這樣只是把價值鏈拆開用03/06 03:22
13F→:結果來看價值,而忽略了每個環節也都有各自得價值03/06 03:23
21F→:你這三段論述的邏輯在哪...而且還互相矛盾03/06 03:29
23F→:你中間說好輪胎,不就是指"好"輪胎比爛輪胎有價值嗎?03/06 03:29
25F→:然後用一個輪胎不能討論一台車的價值?為什麼不能...其它因03/06 03:30
27F→:素先不看或固定,也能比較價值,你能說這種狀況不存在市場?03/06 03:31
30F→:價值不能比較才怪...你再檢視一下自己的邏輯吧03/06 03:32
33F→:每一個階段有每一個階段的價值,不然資金還分Stage幹嘛,最03/06 03:34
34F→:後再來投就好了,也不用什麼早期創投或種子資金競賽03/06 03:34
38F→:哀...比較"好"不是一種價值?03/06 03:36
42F→:要創業者並沒有不用考量這些,你們的論述是要衡量價值一定03/06 03:38
43F→:要從最後結果一起看,我並不需要單看IDEA,我只是純粹覺得你03/06 03:39
45F→:們把每個要素切割然後說單看是沒有價值的,這並非真理03/06 03:39
48F→:你這句話把idea替換成start up或BM或企業也一樣啊03/06 03:41
51F→:OK 討論到這邊還不錯,然後我來個照樣造句03/06 03:44
52F→:如果說員工有價值,的確,它是有價值的03/06 03:45
53F→:但可惜的是,它只是企業價值的一環,具不可分割性03/06 03:45
55F→:==>實際上,企業獲利,員工也是要發薪水和論功行賞的03/06 03:46
57F→:對啊,所以實際上你可以說集合起來有多重要,但是怎能說員工03/06 03:48
58F→:或IDEA是沒有價值的?能創造高價值的員工還會被高薪挖角呢03/06 03:48
61F→:我的邏輯就是這樣而已,算是替爭取idea(員工)論辯他的價值03/06 03:50
66F→:ㄜ 你剛剛已經說單看IDEA是有價值的囉,又想反悔嘛XD03/06 03:51
70F→:我才覺得無奈你又拋一個IDEA不可分割論...為啥不能呢?03/06 03:52
73F推:OK,晚安03/06 03:54