Re: [討論] 奧斯卡匿名投票坦白開始了?

看板movie作者 (每天下雨天)時間7年前 (2017/02/24 11:03), 7年前編輯推噓55(550118)
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今年THR三篇匿名投票坦白都出來了~ #1 https://t.co/uFyVTQ0gSN #2 http://thr.cm/NPh8bl #3 http://thr.cm/fyVbOQ 個人今年比較在意男主角的部分,其他獎項這裡先不討論了~ 第一篇上面有網友翻過,委員表示投給Viggo 但是他可能不會贏 第二篇: Ryan Gosling is very charming and likable, but I don't think he gave an Oscar-level performance — he gets an A for effort, but not an AA [Academy Award] because the Oscars aren't for effort, they're for achievement. The other four are all wonderful. Viggo [Mortensen, of Captain Fantastic], Denzel [Washington, of Fences] and [Andrew] Garfield [of Hacksaw Ridge] gave great performances, but Casey had the hardest acting challenge and was a cut above the rest. It's really hard to play a guy who you're not supposed to like and make him someone who you like because you see there's more to the man. 大概是說雷恩葛斯林很討喜,但是不到奧斯卡的等級。另外四位都很出色, 但他的票投給凱西艾佛列克,因為他的最具挑戰性,你很難把一個應該討人 厭的人演得討人喜歡。 第三篇 Denzel [Washington] talks too much and he talks all the time [in Fences] — I hated his character and it was even harder for me to like him. There's never a moment of silence. Sometimes it's all about that silence, that break, that pause that let's you breathe — just ask any good musician. [Hacksaw Ridge's] Andrew Garfield was good, but he's in a movie that I felt was very inconsistent — and I'm glad I saw Hacksaw before I saw Silence or I wouldn't have even watched it at all. [Manchester by the Sea's] Casey Affleck didn't play someone I could feel much empathy for — I felt like he was doing scenes in acting class and, in his scene with Michelle Williams on the street, that they were just trying to out-act each other. [La La Land's] Ryan Gosling was fine. But [Captain Fantastic's] Viggo Mortensen f---ing ruled! It's a fresh part, he's a really good actor and he's come so far — it was transformative, and he feels f---ing nuts! I loved him. 丹佐華盛頓太多話,鋼鐵英雄不怎麼樣,對凱西艾佛列克的角色沒有認同感, 雷恩葛斯林還可以,但是! 維果莫天森真他馬的讚!他真的是個很棒的演員,而且他付出這麼多, 這是個多變的角色,而且他演得非常成功!愛死他了。 綜合之前The Daily Beast的第一篇,也是認為維果莫天森最出色 搞不好今年眾委員都覺得他不會贏,大家都投給他,結果......XD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 175.99.131.218 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/movie/M.1487905393.A.99C.html

02/24 11:04, , 1F
這樣也不錯,頒獎典禮就是要看大獎爆冷~~~
02/24 11:04, 1F
※ 編輯: lorinafamily (175.99.131.218), 02/24/2017 11:07:55

02/24 11:08, , 2F
本來就覺得Viggo沒炒很奇怪 應該是他跟凱西搶才對
02/24 11:08, 2F

02/24 11:14, , 3F
直接不喜歡動畫電影lol
02/24 11:14, 3F

02/24 11:14, , 4F
這樣《紅烏龜:小島物語》不就有可能得最佳動畫?
02/24 11:14, 4F

02/24 11:18, , 5F
#1和#3動畫長片都給紅龜,#2說對動畫片沒興趣。 XD
02/24 11:18, 5F

02/24 11:19, , 6F
這兩個人都頭Viola 直接out(欸
02/24 11:19, 6F

02/24 11:19, , 7F
The Daily Beast的第一篇也是投紅龜喔
02/24 11:19, 7F

02/24 11:21, , 8F
不過覺得雖然有趣 但數據量真的還是太小 幾千會員像他們認
02/24 11:21, 8F

02/24 11:21, , 9F
真看電影的大概只是一部分吧 某些強勢片大概還是穩拿了
02/24 11:21, 9F

02/24 11:25, , 10F
就很任性的投票XD 但也看到許多不同面向的想法
02/24 11:25, 10F

02/24 11:28, , 11F
唉 神奇大隊長還要好久才上映都沒辦法在典禮前看到 為何沒
02/24 11:28, 11F

02/24 11:28, , 12F
有口碑場啊啊
02/24 11:28, 12F

02/24 11:29, , 13F
阿里跟Viola應該都無懸念了
02/24 11:29, 13F

02/24 11:32, , 14F
不管 無限期支持蜜雪兒反敗
02/24 11:32, 14F

02/24 11:35, , 15F
最後一個應該是覺得丹佐在戲裡就是台詞不斷 沒有停滯
02/24 11:35, 15F

02/24 11:36, , 16F
我也好愛蜜雪兒Q_Q
02/24 11:36, 16F

02/24 11:36, , 17F
沒有讓觀眾有沉澱.休息.思考的時間吧
02/24 11:36, 17F

02/24 11:37, , 18F
Viggo贏的話 應該也很棒XD
02/24 11:37, 18F

02/24 11:42, , 19F
天啊~主報配的現象竟然沒有被罵,看來蜜雪兒無望了(哭
02/24 11:42, 19F

02/24 11:48, , 20F
感覺維果真的有不少支持者欸!黑馬?
02/24 11:48, 20F

02/24 11:48, , 21F
主報配現象有被罵阿 不過不是每個都在罵就是了QQ
02/24 11:48, 21F

02/24 11:49, , 22F
凱西的問題是 他過去有過的醜聞可能或多或少有影響
02/24 11:49, 22F

02/24 11:56, , 23F
之前一篇說藩籬是舞臺劇直接照拍,大概是拍得太滿,沒有留
02/24 11:56, 23F

02/24 12:01, , 24F
如果凱西拿不到 希望順給大隊長 這才是正路
02/24 12:01, 24F

02/24 12:09, , 25F
Viggo其實支持者不少 難道會像02那樣 傑克尼克遜丹尼爾戴
02/24 12:09, 25F

02/24 12:09, , 26F
路易斯相持不下 結果戰地情人Adrien Brody跑出
02/24 12:09, 26F

02/24 12:10, , 27F
不過可惜差在片子能見度 大隊長又是光桿入圍...
02/24 12:10, 27F

02/24 12:12, , 28F
是說都忘了雨蓓和凱西還要獨立精神沒拿
02/24 12:12, 28F

02/24 12:16, , 29F
啊~因為第1個連結的坦白看過所以就跳看2、3,結果主報配的
02/24 12:16, 29F

02/24 12:16, , 30F
現象令人失望
02/24 12:16, 30F

02/24 12:19, , 31F
第二個說喜歡蜜雪兒 然後說但薇歐拉角色更完整 所以投她
02/24 12:19, 31F

02/24 12:19, , 32F
真是廠廠
02/24 12:19, 32F

02/24 12:20, , 33F
雨蓓接下來要連跑三獎,凱薩 獨立 奧斯卡 最好三個都拿下!
02/24 12:20, 33F

02/24 12:21, , 34F
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 人家女主角阿 不然勒
02/24 12:21, 34F

02/24 12:21, , 35F
女主的戲當然更完整 但這叫配角獎好嗎…
02/24 12:21, 35F

02/24 12:21, , 36F
蜜雪兒一直被這些誠實者排在第二名...
02/24 12:21, 36F

02/24 12:21, , 37F
配角都不配角了
02/24 12:21, 37F

02/24 12:22, , 38F
要說他們很乖照規矩玩嗎
02/24 12:22, 38F
還有 95 則推文
02/24 13:29, , 134F
Bire在Room的戲份加定位感覺不比Viola多吧XD
02/24 13:29, 134F

02/24 13:29, , 135F
兩次有什麼好同情的+1
02/24 13:29, 135F

02/24 13:29, , 136F
她是非裔呀,要拿女主的機會有多大?
02/24 13:29, 136F

02/24 13:30, , 137F
Room裡正太才是主角,竟然啥也沒有
02/24 13:30, 137F

02/24 13:30, , 138F
論槓龜次數,蜜雪兒還比薇奧拉還多吧
02/24 13:30, 138F

02/24 13:30, , 139F
今年再給個假配 我保證明年也會是 連三拉三
02/24 13:30, 139F

02/24 13:30, , 140F
那個靠16(18、21自己選一個XD)分鐘拿獎的羔羊 也是報男主
02/24 13:30, 140F

02/24 13:30, , 141F
同情不是次數,而是她的戲份剛好卡在中間,又是非裔
02/24 13:30, 141F

02/24 13:30, , 142F
Dev也是這種問題
02/24 13:30, 142F

02/24 13:30, , 143F
拿獎 主角就是主角 拜託大家乖一點去自己位置吧
02/24 13:30, 143F

02/24 13:31, , 144F
今年連男配都有降報 人都是這樣嘛 有巧門就會有人要鑽
02/24 13:31, 144F

02/24 13:31, , 145F
會同情她爭不到女主,所以勉強認同或不討厭她降格爭女配
02/24 13:31, 145F

02/24 13:31, , 146F
之前BAFTA時就抱怨過一次了
02/24 13:31, 146F

02/24 13:31, , 147F
如果有很多會員反感就不會在入圍投票把Viola投在配
02/24 13:31, 147F

02/24 13:31, , 148F
角了...
02/24 13:31, 148F

02/24 13:32, , 149F
那誰來同情應得的那些配角?
02/24 13:32, 149F

02/24 13:32, , 150F
既便今年不給她,以後還是會有人鑽,因為有些角色爭主角擺
02/24 13:32, 150F

02/24 13:32, , 151F
明了不會得,降級配角還有一絲機會
02/24 13:32, 151F

02/24 13:32, , 152F
倒不是卡中間降級 而是你放哪我就乖乖選一個這麼直線條
02/24 13:32, 152F

02/24 13:34, , 153F
貧民百萬和少年pi入圍那麼多,卻沒有演員入圍
02/24 13:34, 153F

02/24 13:35, , 154F
有色人種被忽視得那麼嚴重,非得要靠降級來入圍
02/24 13:35, 154F

02/24 13:36, , 155F
所以最好的方式就是奧斯卡硬性規定,不符合的就不要給報
02/24 13:36, 155F

02/24 13:36, , 156F
整個學院要感到羞恥(好像話太重了)
02/24 13:36, 156F

02/24 13:48, , 157F
而且明明今年有很強勢的配角表演在 卻仍給主角 這種代表
02/24 13:48, 157F

02/24 13:48, , 158F
意義的影響很糟糕...
02/24 13:48, 158F

02/24 13:52, , 159F
最慘還是配角不敢哀 一哀就變成你麻煩 有機會當主角以後
02/24 13:52, 159F

02/24 13:53, , 160F
也會玩這招XD(同流合汙概念)
02/24 13:53, 160F

02/24 14:07, , 161F
Alicia Vikander去年都可以用一個比主角還主角的戲份
02/24 14:07, 161F

02/24 14:07, , 162F
贏女配了誰在鳥這種規定 能贏就好
02/24 14:07, 162F

02/24 15:36, , 163F
去年就說Alicia Vikander得是壞例子 之後果然...
02/24 15:36, 163F

02/24 15:37, , 164F
主角到那樣了 卻還是給片商宣傳牽鼻子走
02/24 15:37, 164F

02/24 17:35, , 165F
以後新增假配角獎 要報去報
02/24 17:35, 165F

02/24 17:39, , 166F
Rooney沒得獎躲過批評XD
02/24 17:39, 166F

02/24 17:47, , 167F
真心覺得魯妮是委屈了,她是坎城影后,卻只提配角,不提
02/24 17:47, 167F

02/24 17:47, , 168F
雙女主
02/24 17:47, 168F

02/24 18:01, , 169F
魯妮自己也不爽吧 她不太配合跑場
02/24 18:01, 169F

02/24 18:35, , 170F
魯尼根本不管XD
02/24 18:35, 170F

02/24 19:36, , 171F
魯尼沒在跑場的,她根本不在乎
02/24 19:36, 171F

02/24 20:56, , 172F
魯妮也沒去坎城拿獎XD 雖然應該是時間的關係
02/24 20:56, 172F

02/24 22:12, , 173F
我看開了,這次給維拉去吧~下次請給蜜雪兒影后!
02/24 22:12, 173F
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