Re: [心得] 菜花byebye跟性病匿名篩檢心得

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有句話叫 "以彼之道 還施彼身" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ※ 引述《kil1ua (--)》之銘言: : http://hpv.emedtv.com/hpv/hpv-cure.html : There is no cure for HPV : HPV沒有「治癒」的方法 There's no known cure for common cold. 所以感冒不會好囉? http://hpv.emedtv.com/hpv/hpv-treatment.html There is no HPV cure, which means that the body's own immune system must get rid of the virus (which it does in a lot of cases). It also means that similar to other viruses (such as those that cause the common cold). 從你的網站上複製貼上 就像感冒病毒,免疫系統有責任消滅之 如果HPV是注定不能被消滅 那你的網頁就不會拿感冒來類比了 更不會用上get rid of這字眼 : http://cancer.about.com/od/hp1/f/hpvcure.htm : The types of HPV that cause genital warts and cervical cancer can be managed, : not cured. Genital warts can be treated by removing them, however it does not : "cure" the patient. : 醫生可將菜花收成 但無法將病人「治癒」 the virus frequently goes away on its own without any treatment, and without causing any problems. 這網站一開始就說了 不論有無症狀和治療 HPV都常常會消失!! 這是斷章取義... : http://www.genitalwart-s.com/genital_warts_curable.html : the warts may recur because there is not cure for the root of the problem, : which is HPV. : 春風吹又起 菜花即復生 只因HPV 無法全治癒 : XDDDD : http://www.genitalwart-s.com/genital_warts_myths.html : Myth 5: Having genital warts means that I will have recurrences for the rest : of my life. : Fact: In some cases, genital warts do recur but in varying persistence. The : good news is that the immune system gains control over the virus as time : passes by, so the recurrences become less frequent. In most cases, : recurrences are wiped out within two years. However, if the immune system is : impaired through the use of certain drugs or temporary trauma such as serious : illness, surgery, or stress, it may be unable to hinder genital warts from : resurfacing. : 菜花收成後會再長出來 但在免疫系統的對抗之下 可以管控HPV不要作亂 : 所以很多人在兩年內 菜花不會復生 : 但是(However) : 如果免疫系統受損、比如說吃某些藥啦、重病、手術或壓力啦 : 這時候就得重拾鋤頭 再當菜農 啾咪! 人家是說在兩年內擺平復發 你卻說兩年之內不會復發?????? : http://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/2006/genital-warts.htm : Treatment : The primary goal of treating visible genital warts is the removal of the : warts. In the majority of patients, treatment can induce wart-free periods. : If left untreated, visible genital warts might resolve on their own, remain : unchanged, or increase in size or number. Treatment possibly reduces, but : does not eliminate, HPV infection. : 療程可減緩但無法消滅HPV的感染! : http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV-and-men.htm : Is there a treatment or cure for HPV? : There is no treatment or cure for HPV. But there are ways to treat the health : problems caused by HPV in men. : 有辦法將HPV治癒嗎? : 沒有方法可將HPV治癒,但由HPV所引起的症狀是可治療的 : http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vpd-vac/hpv/vac-faqs.htm : Can HPV vaccines treat HPV infections, cancers, or warts? : HPV vaccines will not treat or get rid of existing HPV infections. Also, HPV : vaccines do not treat or cure health problems (like cancer or warts) caused : by an HPV infection that occurred before vaccination. : HPV疫苗無法消滅HPV的感染的! 也無法治療症狀 : http://www.cdc.gov/msmhealth/STD.htm : Can STDs Be Treated? : Antibiotics can successfully cure bacterial STDs, including chlamydia, : gonorrhea, and syphilis. However, drug-resistant strains of gonorrhea are : increasing in many areas of the world, including the United States, and : successful treatment of gonorrhea is becoming more difficult. : There is no treatment that can cure viral STDs, such as HPV and genital : herpes. Antiviral medications can shorten and prevent herpes outbreaks during : the period of time the person takes the medication. In addition, daily : suppressive therapy for symptomatic herpes can reduce transmission to : partners. Visible warts caused by HPV can be treated and removed. : 性傳染病是可以治癒的嗎? : 細菌所引起的性病可用抗生素來治療 但對具抗藥性的菌株則無用! : 病毒所引起的性病是無法治癒的! 像HPV還有生殖器疱疹 : http://www.cdc.gov/std/Hpv/the-facts/HPV_English_2011_508.pdf : 終於給我找到2011的資料了! Q_Q : PAGE2: : There is no cure for HPV, but there are treatments for the health problems : that some types of HPV can cause, like genital warts and cervical cancer. : HPV無法治癒!!!! : 但菜花及子宮頸癌可以治療 Usually the infection goes away on its own. 這是從2011那個pdf裡面複製貼上 通常感染會自己消失 又是斷章取義 : http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/HPV : 8.What are the treatment options for HPV infection? : Although there is currently no medical treatment for HPV infections, the : cervical lesions and warts that can result from such infections can be : treated. Methods commonly used to treat cervical lesions include cryosurgery : (freezing that destroys tissue), LEEP (loop electrosurgical excision : procedure, or the removal of tissue using a hot wire loop), : 雖然目前沒有醫學方法可治癒HPV的感染 : 但由HPV所導致的菜花及子宮頸病變,是可以治療的! 1.What are human papillomaviruses, and how are they transmitted? Although genital HPV infections are very common, most occur without any symptoms and go away without any treatment within a few years. However, some HPV infections can persist for many years. Persistent infections with high-risk HPV types can cause cell abnormalities. If untreated, areas of abnormal cells, called lesions, can sometimes develop into cancer. 這當然也是從你的網站複製貼上 上色那段 HPV感染大多沒症狀 不經治療便自行消失 我看又是自動性忽略了 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 這些資料都是很好的資料 有的甚至引用期刊數據 然而你卻一直區解、誤用、斷章取義... 實在可惜... -- 怕只怕,做告白,關係不保 怕只怕,做暗戀,她心異域 怕只怕,做宅男,永為單身 怕只怕,做好人,服侍所愛 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.42.217.183 ※ 編輯: Rodrigo 來自: 114.42.217.183 (07/09 19:49)

07/09 19:56, , 1F
「菜花長起來後 是不是可以治癒 不再長出來?」這才是要討論
07/09 19:56, 1F

07/09 19:57, , 2F
的議題吧! XDDD 原來從一開始 談論的主題就不一樣啊 哈哈
07/09 19:57, 2F

07/09 19:58, , 3F
究竟能不能cure(治癒)?? 這才是爭議所在
07/09 19:58, 3F

07/09 19:59, , 4F
我個人是傾向美國CDC目前的看法:There is no cure for HPV
07/09 19:59, 4F

07/09 20:00, , 5F
"終生"才是問題所在~
07/09 20:00, 5F

07/09 20:01, , 6F
反正我也不是菜農 只是工作上偶爾會討論到而已
07/09 20:01, 6F

07/09 20:02, , 7F
那就加油啦 把HPV治癒 大幅降低婦女的子宮頸癌的死亡率吧
07/09 20:02, 7F

07/10 01:10, , 8F
我推
07/10 01:10, 8F

07/10 01:16, , 9F
不能完全根治吧
07/10 01:16, 9F

07/10 12:00, , 10F
有必要在進行意氣之爭嗎?不就是希望大家做好安全措施
07/10 12:00, 10F

07/10 12:01, , 11F
兩人討論的目的若只是希望大家都安全 剩下的討論不重要吧
07/10 12:01, 11F

07/10 12:02, , 12F
有些細節的東西就留給專家實驗 其餘人各求安全性生活
07/10 12:02, 12F

07/10 15:06, , 13F
那如果有天K大不小心變菜農 立場還會這麼堅決嗎 ㄎ
07/10 15:06, 13F

07/10 16:32, , 14F
XD 能不能治癒跟我個人的立場無關 連這個都不曉得嗎?
07/10 16:32, 14F

07/12 00:08, , 15F
怎麼用醫藥清除跟自身免疫清除的觀念稿不清楚.
07/12 00:08, 15F

07/12 00:09, , 16F
viral infection不能用外力根除("cure"),但不表示本身免疫
07/12 00:09, 16F

07/12 00:10, , 17F
一定無法自我消滅.
07/12 00:10, 17F

08/31 11:17, , 18F
變專業領域文了 lol
08/31 11:17, 18F
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