[討論] Wired:科技業最聰明的事-別造手機

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http://www.wired.com/2016/05/microsofts-smartest-move-yet-letting-go-smartphones/http://tinyurl.com/zho3zor The Smartest Thing a Tech Company Can Do? Don’t Make a Phone 科技業最聰明的事情:別造手機 by KLINT FINLEY MICROSOFT’S DAYS AS a smartphone company are coming to an end. And that’s a really smart move by Microsoft. 微軟智慧型手機的日子來到盡頭了 放棄智能手機 對微軟來說是明智的一步 Last week, the company said it would sell the mobile phone business it acquired from Nokia in 2014 to manufacturing giant Foxconn. Now Microsoft is laying off 1,850 as it shrinks its mobile hardware division further. 上週 微軟宣佈出售2014年從諾基亞手中收購的手機業務 買家是製造巨頭富士 康 這幾天微軟又宣布裁員1850人 因為它需要進一步裁減手機硬體部門的規模 Microsoft will still develop the Windows 10 Mobile operating system and hints that it will still sell phones to corporate customers. So it’s not giving up on smartphones entirely. But it might as well be. The company was never able to get much of a foothold in the market —so much so that last year Microsoft took a $7.5 billion write-down on its Nokia acquisition. (It also laid off so many people in Nokia’s home country of Finland that the government applied for economic assistance from the European Union.) 微軟繼續在開發Windows 10 Mobile操作系統 它還暗示會繼續向企業客戶出售 手機 微軟還沒有完全放棄智能手機 但它最終可能會完全放棄 在市場上 微軟 從來沒有佔據一定的市占 去年微軟因為收購諾基亞將資產減值75億美元 (微軟 在芬蘭解僱了一堆人 同時芬蘭也向歐盟要求經濟援助) And yet, in giving up on smartphones, Microsoft is arguably a stronger mobile company than ever. But instead of pouring money into making phones, the company has figured out savvy ways to put more of its products on other companies’ phones and mobile operating systems than ever. While it’s obviously terrible for all the people who have been left jobless, it turns out that at the height of the mobile era the smartest thing most tech companies can do is not make phones. 放棄了智能手機 微軟沒有爭議還是一家強大的移動企業 比以前更強大 微軟沒有單純地投入到手機製造中而花了一堆錢 反而 它找到了許多精明的方 法將自己的產品植入到其它企業的手機 操作系統中 對於那些失業的人來說 處境的確糟糕 但是事實證明 在這個移動時代的最高峰 對於大多的科技企業 而言 最聰明的事情就是不要造手機 Fire-able Offense Maybe the idea started in 2011 when Google acquired Motorola Mobile. Or maybe it was earlier, when Google launched its line of Nexus-brand phones and tablets in 2010. Or maybe it started in 2007 when Apple announced the iPhone. After all, Apple’s strategy of controlling every layer of the mobile experience, from the hardware to the operating system to the app store, seemed to inspire the notion that success in the mobile market meant building your own phone. Regardless of where it began, many of the biggest names in the tech industry decided in recent years that the best thing they could do was plunge into the phone-making business. 天大的錯誤 事情也許可以回到2011年 當時Google收購了摩托羅拉 也許可以追溯到更早 的時候 比如2010年Google推出Nexus品牌手機和平板 如果進一步追溯 可以 回到2007年 當時蘋果推出了iPhone 蘋果的策略是控制移動體驗的每一層 從硬件到操作系統到應用商店 看起來企業如果要在移動市場取得成功 只有 製造屬於自己的手機 不管事情是從何時開始的 在最近幾年裡 許多大名鼎 鼎的科技企業都做出決定:它們可以做的最好事情就是進軍手機製造業 To wit: Facebook partnered with HTC in 2013 on the HTC First phone, which featured Facebook’s custom Android interface Facebook Home. Microsoft’s acquisition of Nokia Devices the next year brought the company’s line of Windows Phone handsets in-house. Not to be left out, Amazon announced its Fire phone a few months later. 看看 2013年Facebook與HTC合作推出了HTC First手機 它安裝了Facebook的 定制Android界面Facebook Home 第二年微軟收購了諾基亞 目標是讓Windows Phone手機進入到千家萬戶 幾個月後亞馬遜發布了Fire手機 Meanwhile, if you didn’t make your own phones, others thought it stood to reason that you should at least have your own mobile operating system. Mozilla, the makers of the popular Firefox browser, announced the Firefox OS, and Canonical announced a mobile version of its Linux -based operating system Ubuntu. 如果你沒有自己的手機 別人就會認為:你至少應該擁有屬於自己的移動操作 系統。火狐瀏覽器開發商Mozilla推出了Firefox OS,Canonical推出了基於Linux 的Ubuntu移動版操作系統 Needless to say, the results were rotten. Google sold Motorola to Lenovo in early 2014. The HTC First flopped, and Facebook quietly pulled Facebook Home from the Google Play Store. Earlier this year, Mozilla said it would try to repurpose Firefox OS as an Internet of Things operating system. Even Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos has been quite frank about the failure of the Fire phone. 不用說 結果糟糕透頂 2014年年初Google將摩托羅拉賣給了聯想 HTC First敗 北而歸 Facebook悄悄將Facebook Home從Google商店撤下 今年年初Mozilla宣 布將Firefox OS重新定位 瞄準物聯網 亞馬遜CEO貝佐斯也承認Fire手機是一 個失敗。 “If you think that’s a big failure, we’re working on much bigger failures right now — and I am not kidding,” he said in an interview with Washington Post executive editor Martin Baron last week. “Some of them are going to make the Fire Phone look like a tiny little blip.” “如果你認為它是一個大失敗 我們現在正在圍繞更大的失敗(按:可能的失敗) 賣力工作 我沒有開玩笑”上週貝佐斯在接受《華盛頓郵報》採訪時說 “當中 的一些產品會讓Fire手機看起來只是一件小事” On the Phone Yet no one would accuse Amazon or Facebook of suddenly becoming less relevant just because their mobile phone ventures flopped. Facebook now controls three of the most widely used mobile apps in the world –Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp, and the standard Facebook app. Amazon is still an e-commerce and e-book giant; it also powers many of the apps used on smartphones every day through its wildly successful cloud services. 進入手機 即使亞馬遜和Facebook在手機冒險中失敗了 也沒有人會認為它們的地位不穩固 了 在全球應用最廣泛的移動APP中 Facebook至少控制了三個 它們是Facebook Messenger, WhatsApp和Facebook APP 亞馬遜仍然是電子商務 電子書巨頭 今天 智能手機使用的許多APP都是用亞馬遜雲計算驅動的 Today’s most successful tech companies, excepting Apple and Google, have realized that the future lies not in controlling the underlying mobile platform but in being on everyone’s phone, whether that phone runs Google’s Android or Apple’s iOS. Yes, those are the two most valuable tech companies of all, but the rivals closest behind have discovered more value in not trying to compete directly with the top two giants. 除了蘋果和Google 當今的許多成功科技公司都已經意識到:未來並不依賴於對 移動平台的控制 而是進入到每一個人手機中去 這些手機運行Google Android或 者蘋果iOS系統 沒錯蘋果Google是全球市值最高的科技企業 但是緊隨其後的企 業們發現:不需要與兩大巨頭直接競爭操作系統也可以找到更多的價值 Facebook, for one, ultimately saw more value in owning WhatsApp, which was available on a mind-boggling array of different devices, than building its own mobile platform. Microsoft hasn’t quite given up on Windows phones, but it’s certainly headed in the same direction. When Satya Nadella took over from longtime CEO Steve Ballmer, he ditched his predecessor’s “devices and services” tagline and rebranded Microsoft as a “productivity and platform company for the mobile-first and cloud-first world.” That’s a mouthful, but it gets at an idea that Microsoft isn’t as interested in selling gadgets as it is in selling the tools that people use to get work done. 例如Facebook最終通過WhatsApp找到了更大的價值 WhatsApp已經進入到海量設 備中 多得難以置信 它帶來的價值比自己打造一個移動平台更大 微軟並沒有放 棄Windows手機 它跟facebook走向是一致的 鮑爾默擔任微軟CEO多年後 薩提亞 ·納拉德(Satya Nadella)接下CEO職位後 他拋棄了前任提出的“設備和服務” 口號 重塑微軟品牌 現在微軟的定位是:為移動第一、雲計算第一的世界提供生 產力和平台的公司 也就說微軟對銷售設備的興趣並沒有銷售應用工具那麼大 人 們用來完成工作的工具 Under Nadella, Microsoft finally launched fully functional versions of Microsoft Office for iOS and Android. It snapped up well-designed mobile apps that already enjoyed cult followings on Android and the iPhone, such as Acompli (the basis of its much-praised iOS version of Outlook), Sunrise Calendar (now being integrated into Outlook), and the Wunderlist task manager. And it released acquired coding tools to make it easy for developers to create apps that run not just on Windows/a but every platform. 在納拉德的領導下 微軟為iOS和Andorid開發了具有完全功能的Office 它搶購了 一些設計優秀的移動應用 這些在Android和iPhone上流行的應用 比如Acompli(頗 受稱讚的iOS版Outlook就是用它的技術開發的)Sunrise Calendar(現在已經整合 到Outlook ) 還有Wunderlist任務管理器 它還推出了編碼工具(也是收購來的) 讓開發者製作APP可以變得更容易 In short, Microsoft decided the best plan was not to make its own phones but to be on everybody’s phones. Today it’s the world’s third-most valuable company, trailing only Apple and Google parent company Alphabet. 簡單來講,微軟決定他的最佳策略不是自己製造手機 而是進入其他系統的手機中 今天 微軟仍然是世界第三大企業 市值僅次於蘋果 Alphabet Not that tech giants aren’t getting out of hardware entirely. Google sold Motorola but acquired Nest and still manages the Nexus line, among other hardware initiatives. Amazon still has the Echo, its Kindle e-readers,and its Dash buttons. Facebook has the Oculus Rift. Microsoft has the Xbox and its Surface tablets. But these are all ancillary products compared to the smartphone, still the hub of most people’s digital lives. 事實上 巨頭們沒有完全退出硬體 Google雖然放棄了摩托羅拉 但它收購了Nest 仍然管理著Nexus產品線 還有其它硬體項目 亞馬遜擁有Echo, Kindle, Dash按鈕 Facebook有Oculus Rift 微軟有Xbox和Surface 但是和智慧型手機相比 這些只是 輔助產品 目前智慧型手機依然是人們數字生活的中樞 In the meantime, makers of the latest generation of popular apps show little interest in hardware. There’s not much talk of Snapchat phones, Pinterest headsets, or Tinder watches. They’re not trying to create their own mobile operating systems to load with self-interested bloatware. Instead, they’re just making apps that people just can’t resist using, regardless of what type of phone or watch or tablet they happen to own. 與此同時 最新流行的APP對硬體興趣不大 我們沒有聽說Snapchat手機 Pinterest 頭盔或Tinder手錶的消息 它們不會嘗試打造自己的操作系統 安裝自己的軟體 相反它們只是開發用戶無法拒絕的APP 不管你的手機是什麼 手錶是什麼 平板 是什麼 This new generation of companies, in other words, realizes the smartphone wars are over. The winners are clear. Microsoft knows it, too. Now it’s showing it understands where the real promise lies by deciding to move on. 換句話說 新一代企業知道智能手機戰爭已經結束 輸贏已經很明顯 這一點微軟 自己也知道 當微軟決定前進時 它已理解到希望在哪裡 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 122.118.178.179 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/WindowsPhone/M.1464412489.A.B77.html

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不是微軟出的Win10手機 大家還會買嗎?
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我很大的原因是為了 PureView 而買的
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少了這相機招牌 我可能還要考慮一下
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不知道大家是因為什麼喜歡WP(W10M)
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動態專/安全性/不用在APP間切來切去/
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微軟服務整合性(雖然現在iOS/Android
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也有了)
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現在做手機的 賺錢的也只有那幾家
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05/28 14:03, , 9F
用習慣了 還有與眾不同 外加備份比安
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卓好 有沒有蘋果貴 相機不錯 微軟服
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務整合
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備份基本上iOS跟WM都屌打安卓吧
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05/28 14:11, , 13F
安卓根本就沒備份功能
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另外我會愛用單純就是喜歡那個UI
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話說 我另一支安卓手機上 也換成方形的
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icon 圓角怎麼看都不習慣 XD
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現在android就只差聯絡人跟訊息中心還沒
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有MS的服務,要不就可以無痛轉移了
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聯絡人可以通 訊息就沒辦法了
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希望手上的950XL不是微軟的最後一隻手
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機,用慣了動態磚,真的很不願換系統
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話說虹膜辨識我很滿意啊,除了炫外,速
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度我也能接受,習慣後,一般都是拿起
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手機,側鍵按下,等注意到螢幕,就已經
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解鎖完了,不覺得會慢
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其實icon方圓我都OK 只是說要比自定性
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05/28 14:41, , 27F
WM相對起來可以玩的花樣比較多
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05/28 14:42, , 28F
安卓跟iOS就比較固定 雖然前者可以
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用換Launcher來解決
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05/28 15:32, , 30F
希望微軟幫些熱門安卓手機放rom出來就好了
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05/28 15:33, , 31F
拿著小米五這樣的手機很希望跑的是w10m的系統
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如果微軟放棄移動設備,那在這領域就只
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是個,app開發商而已,雲服務?很好奇在
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安卓上能有什麼比google服務吸引人,讓
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人轉而使用微軟服務。
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現實頗殘酷 同樣硬體的手機跑window
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mobile就是賣差很多
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拜託 W10m 不要收起來,多個選擇總是
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好事
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還有 147 則推文
05/29 08:55, , 187F
這樣整合也很有搞頭
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所以不跳真市佔了嗎 加油 請繼續找下一個
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酸的方向
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Project Astoria不就死到底了嗎
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Window桌機系統備份算是還ok吧 傳統
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應用是本機備份,可以自行上傳到自己
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空間 uwp是等同手機備份 不同廠商可
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以動的部分很少 也有第三方備份系統
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我說到開發 只是要回答 win也沒有安
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卓那麼破碎
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至於MS servise,IE/Edge/Bing/Skype各有
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各的障礙問題(?
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Line的桌機備份不就是沒有備份嗎XD
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不過這繞回來就是MS目前在對應終端USER,
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沒有夠有力的主軸,所以看起來才會一直像
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放生消費大眾市場
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05/29 11:16, , 203F
實質上也是在放牛吃草不是嗎
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先不說吸引力 每兩三年放生一次 說真的
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有多強的東西也會讓人卻步 更何況沒有
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這樣子就會吵到雖然微軟沒說 但是微軟到底
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有沒有放棄大眾消費市場(?)
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你好無聊…
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他就是整天想看笑話不是嗎...
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05/29 15:14, , 210F
真市佔又是什麼東西XD
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桌機是否碎片化 跟桌機備份是否簡單 真的
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不大...太多設定或軟體要自己去撈
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那只是跳針打成跳真而已... 唉,真無聊
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05/29 19:05, , 214F
那得問最一開始亂入說市佔無用論的人了
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我只希望手上這535到我不能忍的時
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候還有後繼WIN機在台灣有得買
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一台安卓手機裝滿微軟app可能都比做一台微軟
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手機來得好,我1520稱道明年春天阿,不要出一台
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820的surface旗艦機阿
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當大家稱讚MS不做低利潤產品時 卻沒發現MS手
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機其實只有MS自己在做嗎XD
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除了MS至少還有兩家好不好....
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更正 三家
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那種客串性質的就不說了 主力只有MS,主力還
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放空 當初大比預算資助nokia拜託nokia做的時
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期根本是WP唯一讓人可以看好的時期
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