[請益] 德川家康是塊鐵壁
看板WarringState作者bluewild (bluewild)時間7年前 (2016/11/21 01:37)推噓48(49推 1噓 72→)留言122則, 24人參與討論串1/2 (看更多)
看過很多書，大多是小說
都會以老大哥看小弟的那種姿態
來投射到武田信玄與德川家康的角色
前者一副高高在上的，宛如只要願意，一下子就能輾平你的模樣。
後者則一副辛苦對抗般的苦媳婦模樣。
結果三方原武田大勝後，卻仍無法碾爆這傢伙
這不是很不合邏輯嗎？
讀起來總覺得怪怪的
事實上
會不會其實德川家康是塊難啃的骨頭？
甚至比起上杉謙信更難啃？
其狀況並不像專業棋士對上初級棋士
反而其實像是高段之間的對招？
套句山岡莊八藉竹中半兵衛之口所說的：
「德川家康光靠年輕與幹勁，就足以勝過武田信玄了。」
請多指教
感謝大大們
--
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.226.45.132
※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/WarringState/M.1479663458.A.040.html
推
11/21 02:22, , 1F
11/21 02:22, 1F
→
11/21 02:55, , 2F
11/21 02:55, 2F
→
11/21 03:24, , 3F
11/21 03:24, 3F
推
11/21 05:06, , 4F
11/21 05:06, 4F
→
11/21 05:51, , 5F
11/21 05:51, 5F
→
11/21 05:52, , 6F
11/21 05:52, 6F
推
11/21 06:26, , 7F
11/21 06:26, 7F
→
11/21 06:27, , 8F
11/21 06:27, 8F
→
11/21 06:27, , 9F
11/21 06:27, 9F
推
11/21 06:53, , 10F
11/21 06:53, 10F
→
11/21 06:54, , 11F
11/21 06:54, 11F
→
11/21 06:58, , 12F
11/21 06:58, 12F
推
11/21 07:35, , 13F
11/21 07:35, 13F
→
11/21 07:35, , 14F
11/21 07:35, 14F
→
11/21 07:35, , 15F
11/21 07:35, 15F
推
11/21 07:45, , 16F
11/21 07:45, 16F
→
11/21 07:45, , 17F
11/21 07:45, 17F
推
11/21 07:46, , 18F
11/21 07:46, 18F
→
11/21 07:47, , 19F
11/21 07:47, 19F
推
11/21 08:12, , 20F
11/21 08:12, 20F
→
11/21 08:14, , 21F
11/21 08:14, 21F
→
11/21 08:16, , 22F
11/21 08:16, 22F
推
11/21 08:23, , 23F
11/21 08:23, 23F
→
11/21 08:25, , 24F
11/21 08:25, 24F
→
11/21 08:26, , 25F
11/21 08:26, 25F
推
11/21 09:11, , 26F
11/21 09:11, 26F
推
11/21 09:13, , 27F
11/21 09:13, 27F
→
11/21 09:13, , 28F
11/21 09:13, 28F
推
11/21 09:15, , 29F
11/21 09:15, 29F
→
11/21 09:15, , 30F
11/21 09:15, 30F
→
11/21 09:16, , 31F
11/21 09:16, 31F
推
11/21 09:25, , 32F
11/21 09:25, 32F
→
11/21 09:26, , 33F
11/21 09:26, 33F
→
11/21 09:27, , 34F
11/21 09:27, 34F
推
11/21 09:31, , 35F
11/21 09:31, 35F
→
11/21 09:31, , 36F
11/21 09:31, 36F
推
11/21 09:34, , 37F
11/21 09:34, 37F
→
11/21 09:34, , 38F
11/21 09:34, 38F
推
11/21 10:26, , 39F
11/21 10:26, 39F
還有 43 則推文
→
11/21 12:38, , 83F
11/21 12:38, 83F
→
11/21 12:39, , 84F
11/21 12:39, 84F
推
11/21 12:44, , 85F
11/21 12:44, 85F
→
11/21 13:14, , 86F
11/21 13:14, 86F
→
11/21 13:16, , 87F
11/21 13:16, 87F
→
11/21 13:54, , 88F
11/21 13:54, 88F
→
11/21 14:32, , 89F
11/21 14:32, 89F
推
11/21 19:00, , 90F
11/21 19:00, 90F
→
11/21 19:00, , 91F
11/21 19:00, 91F
推
11/21 19:01, , 92F
11/21 19:01, 92F
→
11/21 19:02, , 93F
11/21 19:02, 93F
推
11/21 19:03, , 94F
11/21 19:03, 94F
→
11/21 19:03, , 95F
11/21 19:03, 95F
噓
11/21 19:07, , 96F
11/21 19:07, 96F
推
11/21 19:09, , 97F
11/21 19:09, 97F
推
11/21 19:57, , 98F
11/21 19:57, 98F
→
11/21 19:58, , 99F
11/21 19:58, 99F
推
11/21 20:01, , 100F
11/21 20:01, 100F
→
11/21 20:01, , 101F
11/21 20:01, 101F
推
11/21 20:32, , 102F
11/21 20:32, 102F
→
11/21 20:34, , 103F
11/21 20:34, 103F
→
11/21 20:35, , 104F
11/21 20:35, 104F
推
11/21 21:22, , 105F
11/21 21:22, 105F
→
11/21 21:23, , 106F
11/21 21:23, 106F
→
11/21 21:24, , 107F
11/21 21:24, 107F
推
11/21 21:27, , 108F
11/21 21:27, 108F
推
11/21 21:40, , 109F
11/21 21:40, 109F
→
11/21 21:41, , 110F
11/21 21:41, 110F
推
11/21 21:49, , 111F
11/21 21:49, 111F
推
11/21 22:00, , 112F
11/21 22:00, 112F
推
11/21 22:20, , 113F
11/21 22:20, 113F
推
11/21 22:48, , 114F
11/21 22:48, 114F
推
11/22 14:31, , 115F
11/22 14:31, 115F
推
11/22 20:36, , 116F
11/22 20:36, 116F
→
11/25 09:04, , 117F
11/25 09:04, 117F
→
11/25 09:52, , 118F
11/25 09:52, 118F
→
11/25 09:52, , 119F
11/25 09:52, 119F
→
11/25 09:52, , 120F
11/25 09:52, 120F
→
11/25 11:40, , 121F
11/25 11:40, 121F
推
11/26 17:45, , 122F
11/26 17:45, 122F
討論串 (同標題文章)
