Fw: [情報] 玻璃渣聲明

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※ [本文轉錄自 C_Chat 看板 #1TeIyR5G ] 作者: blargelp (bernie) 看板: C_Chat 標題: Re: [情報] 玻璃渣聲明 時間: Sat Oct 12 09:40:41 2019 ※ 引述《yenbor001 (YB)》之銘言: : https://tinyurl.com/y2sgqwq3 : 嘴了一堆 還強調沒有受中國影響 : 退還獎金 改成禁賽半年 : 主播禁半年 : 結論 : 掰掰BZ : ----- : Sent from JPTT on my Google Pixel 3. 摘要翻譯: Hello Blizzard Community . . . I want to take a few minutes to talk to all of you about the Hearthstone Grandmasters tournament this past weekend. On Monday, we made the decision to take action against a player named blitzchung and two shoutcasters after the player shared his views on what’s happening in Hong Kong on our official broadcast channel. 以上前情提要。 At Blizzard, our vision is “to bring the world together through epic entertainment.” And we have core values that apply here: Think Globally; Lead Responsibly; and importantly, Every Voice Matters, encouraging everybody to share their point of view. The actions that we took over the weekend are causing people to question if we are still committed to these values. We absolutely are and I will explain. Our esports programs are an expression of our vision and our values. Esports exist to create opportunities for players from around the world, from different cultures, and from different backgrounds, to come together to compete and share their passion for gaming. It is extremely important to us to protect these channels and the purpose they serve: to bring the world together through epic entertainment, celebrate our players, and build diverse and inclusive communities. BZ的核心價值觀"Every voice matters"等,最近被玩家質疑。 而我們的價值觀一直都是讓所有文化背景的人都能在同一個遊戲上遊玩、競爭。 所以我們要保護這個平台 (按: 所以把玩家趕出聯賽=確保大家都能玩。 殺生為護生? 斬業非斬人?) As to how those values apply in this case: First, our official esports tournament broadcast was used as a platform for a winner of this event to share his views with the world. We interview competitors who are at the top of their craft to share how they feel. We want to experience that moment with them. Hearing their excitement is a powerful way to bring us together. Over the weekend, blitzchung used his segment to make a statement about the situation in Hong Kong—in violation of rules he acknowledged and understood, and this is why we took action. Every Voice Matters, and we strongly encourage everyone in our community to share their viewpoints in the many places available to express themselves. However, the official broadcast needs to be about the tournament and to be a place where all are welcome. In support of that, we want to keep the official channels focused on the game. 第一,受訪心得要跟遊戲有關,聰哥明知故犯。 Second, what is the role of shoutcasters for these broadcasts? We hire shoutcasters to amplify the excitement of the game. They elevate the watchability and help the esports viewing experience stay focused on the tournament and our amazing players. 第二,主播賽評的角色是增加遊戲的可看性,並讓觀看體驗聚焦在比賽及選手上。 Third, were our actions based on the content of the message? Part of Thinking Globally, Leading Responsibly, and Every Voice Matters is recognizing that we have players and fans in almost every country in the world. Our goal is to help players connect in areas of commonality, like their passion for our games, and create a sense of shared community. The specific views expressed by blitzchung were NOT a factor in the decision we made. I want to be clear: our relationships in China had no influence on our decision. We have these rules to keep the focus on the game and on the tournament to the benefit of a global audience, and that was the only consideration in the actions we took. If this had been the opposing viewpoint delivered in the same divisive and deliberate way, we would have felt and acted the same. 聰哥被ban不是因為說的內容,這判決完全沒有中國因素,而暴雪有義務避免比賽失焦。 (按: Wow,所以採訪時離題,會被剝奪資格+取消10000美獎金欸,各位人上人要小心了,再敢離題,BZ爸爸一個一個拖出來打。) OK, what could Blizzard have done better, and where do we go from here? Over the past few days, many players, casters, esports fans, and employees have expressed concerns about how we determined the penalties. We’ve had a chance to pause, to listen to our community, and to reflect on what we could have done better. In hindsight, our process wasn’t adequate, and we reacted too quickly. We want to ensure that we maintain a safe and inclusive environment for all our players, and that our rules and processes are clear. All of this is in service of another important Blizzard value—Play Nice; Play Fair. In the tournament itself blitzchung *played* fair. We now believe he should receive his prizing. We understand that for some this is not about the prize, and perhaps for others it is disrespectful to even discuss it. That is not our intention. (此段後重點) 我們吸收了社群上的意見,事後來看,暴雪的反應不是那麼恰當。 聰哥應該要拿到應得的獎金。 But playing fair also includes appropriate pre-and post-match conduct, especially when a player accepts recognition for winning in a broadcast. When we think about the suspension, six months for blitzchung is more appropriate, after which time he can compete in the Hearthstone pro circuit again if he so chooses. There is a consequence for taking the conversation away from the purpose of the event and disrupting or derailing the broadcast. 聰哥禁賽期,縮短為半年。半年後可以繼續待在人上人聯盟。( 按:pro circuit是人上人聯盟吧? 有錯請指教) With regard to the casters, remember their purpose is to keep the event focused on the tournament. That didn’t happen here, and we are setting their suspension to six months as well. 主播賽評 ban六個月。 Moving forward, we will continue to apply tournament rules to ensure our official broadcasts remain focused on the game and are not a platform for divisive social or political views. One of our goals at Blizzard is to make sure that every player, everywhere in the world, regardless of political views, religious beliefs, race, gender, or any other consideration always feels safe and welcome both competing in and playing our games. At Blizzard, we are always listening and finding ways to improve—it is part of our culture. Thank you for your patience with us as we continue to learn. Sincerely, J. Allen Brack President of Blizzard Entertainment 後面不重要。 ------------ 改判啦,大家可以回家啦。 龍王可以回來播報啦, 希洽可以開始論戰需不需要繼續抵制啦。 沒有中國因素笑死人,下次訪問,你個位人上人最好不要提遊戲以外的事。 否則將違反暴雪"聚焦在遊戲競賽上"的理念,小心被禁半年。 雖然掰沒有中國因素很瞎,但這個判決可以接受。 我個人還是不會回來玩啦,畢竟這間公司受到中國因素干擾是鐵錚錚的事實。 而且能對抗中國因素的只有西方社群燒起來。 以後如果又有這種事,就祈禱西方社群有看到,而且有燒起來吧。不然只有一堆東南亞國家在燒,就乖乖吞下祖國的善液吧。 不過我不再奉行誰還玩就告原則,其他人要玩就玩吧。 -- Sent from my Windows -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 113.161.150.5 (越南) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/C_Chat/M.1570844443.A.150.html

10/12 09:42, 4年前 , 1F
按個ENTER分段好爆
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10/12 09:42, 4年前 , 2F
== 睜眼說瞎話 和中國有關的都這德行?
10/12 09:42, 2F

10/12 09:42, 4年前 , 3F
不意外 舔中的都喜歡扯一堆假掰理由
10/12 09:42, 3F

10/12 09:43, 4年前 , 4F
改卡面那次也是這樣說..
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10/12 09:44, 4年前 , 5F
改卡面那次賴不掉的原因是,卡面都是從中國服搬過來的
10/12 09:44, 5F

10/12 09:44, 4年前 , 6F
改完的說明跟懲罰可接受但來不及了吧,中文微博可是明
10/12 09:44, 6F

10/12 09:44, 4年前 , 7F
顯政治因素啊。
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10/12 09:45, 4年前 , 8F
那美國大學怎麼不罰 光這點就玩死他了
10/12 09:45, 8F

10/12 09:46, 4年前 , 9F
沒事拉ab稿是公司常態啊 魯蛇尼特不要炒
10/12 09:46, 9F

10/12 09:46, 4年前 , 10F
遇到白人就不罰 那共雪是不是種族歧視?
10/12 09:46, 10F

10/12 09:46, 4年前 , 11F
我本就沒玩無從抵制,但至少三個鐵粉朋友新聞爆出當天
10/12 09:46, 11F

10/12 09:46, 4年前 , 12F
就砍光暴雪遊戲。
10/12 09:46, 12F

10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 13F
笑死 大概只有用屁眼看文章的人會覺得沒有受到中國影
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10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 14F
響吧,那個捍衛國家尊嚴都出來了
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10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 15F
不認同啊 我的底線就是易先生的判決應該全部撤銷
10/12 09:47, 15F

10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 16F
什麼叫可以接受ban主播就夠智障了 更不用講前幾天美國大
10/12 09:47, 16F

10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 17F
學才幹一樣的事情 結果說不罰
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10/12 09:47, 4年前 , 18F
雙標就雙標 有種判決改一樣再來講
10/12 09:47, 18F

10/12 09:48, 4年前 , 19F
美大不繼續比是他們的自由 你bz罰則不判一樣就是有鬼
10/12 09:48, 19F

10/12 09:48, 4年前 , 20F
支持聰哥不領獎金,不然代表承認暴雪這樣作是對的
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10/12 09:49, 4年前 , 21F
BZ解釋一下美國大學為什麼不罰喔 因為有聚焦嗎
10/12 09:49, 21F

10/12 09:50, 4年前 , 22F
有看爐石比賽的都知道其他地區賽後訪問都是在討論比賽內
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10/12 09:50, 4年前 , 23F
容 只有亞太區會閒話家常 只能說平常這種風氣闖禍了
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10/12 09:51, 4年前 , 24F
此地無銀
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10/12 09:51, 4年前 , 25F
當然是要把獎金拿去換成抗議用的物資捐出去啊
10/12 09:51, 25F

10/12 09:51, 4年前 , 26F
闖禍呵呵呵呵
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10/12 09:54, 4年前 , 27F
舔中都愛說不表態自由和無關政治啦
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10/12 09:56, 4年前 , 28F
聰哥自己也說歐美訪問的話他不會這麼做
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10/12 09:56, 4年前 , 29F
垃圾,一堆垃圾理由
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10/12 09:56, 4年前 , 30F
睜眼說瞎話還是要下去
10/12 09:56, 30F

10/12 09:57, 4年前 , 31F
支持領了換成物資送出去,記得在物資箱上印上暴雪logo
10/12 09:57, 31F

10/12 09:57, 4年前 , 32F
睜眼說瞎話
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10/12 09:58, 4年前 , 33F
最愛談政治才會說政治歸政治 最有偏見的才會說其他人都偏見
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10/12 09:58, 4年前 , 34F
敢不敢冰美國大學生啊,離題
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10/12 09:58, 4年前 , 35F
哪國人我就不說了 我很中立不表態不談政治
10/12 09:58, 35F

10/12 10:00, 4年前 , 36F
小粉紅主播或選手大喊中國一定強罰不罰?
10/12 10:00, 36F

10/12 10:00, 4年前 , 37F
暴雪真的把人當棒槌XD
10/12 10:00, 37F

10/12 10:01, 4年前 , 38F
把前幾天表示還願意留下來的選手臉打得啪啪響
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10/12 10:02, 4年前 , 39F
暴雪:火他媽還不夠大,全部起來嗨,給我繼續燒!
10/12 10:02, 39F
還有 180 則推文
還有 1 段內文
10/12 14:44, 4年前 , 220F
或者是長年感情投入捨不得走的,只能讓自己避而不談
10/12 14:44, 220F

10/12 14:45, 4年前 , 221F
如果在這件事情上做取捨,老玩家大概也很痛
10/12 14:45, 221F

10/12 14:45, 4年前 , 222F
還好我在腐爛爾搞出秋森萬的爛劇情時就退了,幹你BZ
10/12 14:45, 222F

10/12 14:46, 4年前 , 223F
最可笑的是經典版上演蝗蟲過境2.0,公評有聊到政治
10/12 14:46, 223F

10/12 14:46, 4年前 , 224F
支持台灣與香港的言論被中國以人海優勢狗幹
10/12 14:46, 224F

10/12 14:47, 4年前 , 225F
居然還有犯賤的台灣人在推文說麻煩自找的,何必談政治
10/12 14:47, 225F

10/12 14:47, 4年前 , 226F
你就知道某部分玩家有多害怕自己的一切會崩壞
10/12 14:47, 226F

10/12 14:50, 4年前 , 227F
15週年活動 面罩+五星旗到場支持共雪的+1
10/12 14:50, 227F

10/12 14:52, 4年前 , 228F
欲加之罪 何患無詞
10/12 14:52, 228F

10/12 14:58, 4年前 , 229F
讓中國佔台灣貿易出口比例創新高算舔中嗎
10/12 14:58, 229F

10/12 14:58, 4年前 , 230F
在別人的屋簷下就不要那麼大聲 你真當別人聖人啊
10/12 14:58, 230F

10/12 15:03, 4年前 , 231F
算了啦 反正移除暴雪了
10/12 15:03, 231F

10/12 15:20, 4年前 , 232F
台版人數原本就跟抵制沒兩樣了
10/12 15:20, 232F

10/12 15:24, 4年前 , 233F
現在就是卡8.25版本末 人早就跑光了
10/12 15:24, 233F

10/12 15:26, 4年前 , 234F
下次訪問喊支持港警殺光香港暴民,看共雪罰還是不罰
10/12 15:26, 234F

10/12 16:24, 4年前 , 235F
所以主播賽評還是躺槍阿 幫兩位QQ
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10/12 16:55, 4年前 , 236F
支持"殺光"就是仇恨跟恐嚇言論 不太可能不罰
10/12 16:55, 236F

10/12 17:00, 4年前 , 237F
還好8.2就閃惹,8版讓人玩不下去,還好沒買上次的半年卡
10/12 17:00, 237F

10/12 17:22, 4年前 , 238F
提油桶上來 反正暴雪新遊戲別想我買
10/12 17:22, 238F

10/12 17:23, 4年前 , 239F
好險月卡還沒補 WAR3沒預購
10/12 17:23, 239F

10/12 17:30, 4年前 , 240F
看暴雪嘉年華他們怎麼表現嚕 一定會有挺香港的聲音進去
10/12 17:30, 240F

10/12 18:23, 4年前 , 241F
替香港發聲就架走,驅逐出場門票作廢,不怕
10/12 18:23, 241F

10/12 18:47, 4年前 , 242F
真是失望 暴雪把玩家當白痴 這種聲明真是可笑
10/12 18:47, 242F

10/12 18:54, 4年前 , 243F
其實我還蠻有感的耶 這次經典服認識的新朋友 有不少
10/12 18:54, 243F

10/12 18:54, 4年前 , 244F
已經退坑不玩了 當然他們本來就屬於回鍋玩家 曾經玩
10/12 18:54, 244F

10/12 18:55, 4年前 , 245F
過WOW而已 不是正式服的 核心玩家
10/12 18:55, 245F

10/12 19:43, 4年前 , 246F
Aren't you thankful?
10/12 19:43, 246F

10/12 20:41, 4年前 , 247F
還好沒買到典藏包,順便退坑
10/12 20:41, 247F

10/13 00:04, 4年前 , 248F
抱歉 這回真的噁
10/13 00:04, 248F

10/13 00:05, 4年前 , 249F
一邊喊著所有意見都重要 一邊以你的意見不合我的目標ban
10/13 00:05, 249F

10/13 00:08, 4年前 , 250F
這件事本身就是個中國特色的行為了好嗎
10/13 00:08, 250F

10/13 00:15, 4年前 , 251F
賽評同罪還同刑期 理由是沒做好份內工作...你開發組KPI拉
10/13 00:15, 251F

10/13 00:15, 4年前 , 252F
出來看看?這理由根本是現下唯一能想到才用的
10/13 00:15, 252F

10/13 00:16, 4年前 , 253F
憋這篇屁話比懲處長那麼久 還說不好故事 公關真心慘
10/13 00:16, 253F

10/13 03:41, 4年前 , 254F
還好我沒有人情債 朋友跟我一樣都是憤青手牽手一起走
10/13 03:41, 254F

10/13 10:40, 4年前 , 255F
歐美的風向是處罰過當,但不贊成這種砸人飯碗的行為
10/13 10:40, 255F

10/13 10:41, 4年前 , 256F
他自己也說了,本來就是明知故犯只是沒想到那麼重
10/13 10:41, 256F

10/13 20:49, 4年前 , 257F
完全人治國家行為 法條會轉彎 覺得罰重了又可以改 有血統
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10/13 20:49, 4年前 , 258F
的可以輕輕帶過 信用何在
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10/15 08:48, 4年前 , 259F
語畢,哄堂大笑
10/15 08:48, 259F
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