[新聞] Valve員工解釋為何Steam沒有廣告

看板Steam作者 (艾打逼)時間8年前 (2015/10/19 14:27), 編輯推噓55(58324)
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來源 http://goo.gl/iFCnZE Cinema Blend Valve Explains Why Steam Doesn't Have Ads Valve解釋為何Steam上沒有廣告 While a lot of digital platforms will feed ads to users without a second thought, and most digital distribution platforms are known for ads, one service does not have them: Steam. One of Valve's staff explains why Steam doesn't have ads. 很多遊戲平台都會不假思索的附上很多廣告,但Steam上卻沒有 In an interview with Gamespot, Valve's Erik Johnson explained why the digital download service doesn't have ads like its console counterparts, PlayStation Network and Xbox Live. The simple gist of the matter is that Valve doesn't believe it adds anything of value to consumers. 在Valve人員Johnson的訪談中,其解釋為何Valve並沒有像他在console的對手一樣 放上很多廣告,單純只是因為: 「Valve並不相信這些廣告對於顧客而言有任何價值」 When asked if something like a Doritos ad might appear on the Steam store, Johnson replied... 當問及如多利多滋的廣告如果出現在Steam上時,Jonhson答道: '' We don't see a case for that ever getting user value, [...] So we wouldn't do it. I don't think that those ever work, either. To take it a step further, I don't think anybody buys Doritos as a result of that.'' 我們並不覺得這樣做對使用者有任何利益...所以我們就不做。況且我也不覺得 這(廣告)將有任何效果,進步言之,我不覺得有人會因為這個廣告而去買多利多滋。 According to Johnson, he states that Valve wants to focus on long-term relationships and he states that it would be “dumb” to go the route of the other service providers who have gamers pay a subscription fee and still have to suffer through seeing ads on the service periodically. Johnson說,Valve想要聚焦在跟顧客的長期關係,如果跟其他平台一樣要求 年費卻仍然需要不定時的被逼著看廣告,將會是非常愚蠢的。 Johnson isn't alone in thinking the way he does about ads. Valve's Robin Walker concurred with the idea that ads don't help customers and that they don't “serve any value to costumers”. It is true that there's really no benefit on Steam seeing stuff you don't care about. And plain and simple when I start up a service to play games the last thing I want to do is sit through seeing some pointless ad on the sidebar or in the update menu. 另一位員工Walker也贊同Johnson,其認為,在Steam看到你根本不在乎的東西是沒有 意義的,道理很簡單,當我想放鬆打個遊戲而開啟遊戲平台時,我最不想看 到的就是當我更新時出現毫無意義的廣告。 The only “ads” gamers will see on Steam is for other games. Now those kind of promotional notifications are very welcomed because it's always great finding out about new games or learning about some new game that's either discounted or available for cheap. 唯一玩家會在Steam上看到的廣告就是更多遊戲,而這些折價廣告非常受 玩家歡迎,因為玩家們總會想知道有什麼新的遊戲或是有什麼遊戲現在可 以便宜買入。 In fact, Valve's whole goal is to help gamers better discover the kind of games they want to play. With more than 1,500 games being made available on the SteamOS and with more than 6,000 games in the database, it's not a matter of adding more games to the library so much as it is helping gamers find the sort of titles that interest them. 事實上,Valve的目標是幫助玩家發掘他們會想玩的遊戲,1500個以上的遊戲 在Steam上可以運行,而有超過六千個遊戲在資料庫中,並不是只是一直叫玩 家買入遊戲並加入資料庫中,而是幫助玩家找到自己會感到興趣的遊戲。 Johnson explains to Gamespot that Valve's top priority at the moment is improving the algorithms that power the Steam Discovery tools. This means that gamers will be able to find the sort of indie, AAA, RPG, sports and action games as they see fit. Valve現在最優先進行改進的是在Steam搜尋工具中如何運算出如何使玩家找到 他們會想玩的各種類類型的遊戲像是AAA、RPG等 Right now the search tools are fairly decent but the discovery toolset could still use some improvements. For now, Steam is definitely leagues above the competition in terms of its selection, variety and prices. Microsoft is slowly playing catch-up by including more indie titles after a bit of a debacle with the release parity clause from back during the Mattrick era of the system, and Sony has been selectively picking a lot of high-profile indies to help fill out the ranks on the PlayStation store. 雖然說現在的搜尋工具已經算不錯了但是仍有值得改進的地方,就現況而言 Steam無疑的在這場平台戰爭中比起其他的對手高一個檔次,不論是在選擇、 多樣性與價格上都是其他的平台只有Mircosoft在慢慢追趕而已,Sony則 對於引入的遊戲非常挑。 What's interesting is that Steam offers more games than both the Xbox and PlayStation storefronts, but the other two have third-party ads while Steam avoids it like the plague. 有趣的是Steam上的遊戲比上開兩平台都還要多,但是後者卻在Steam忙著閃 避第三方廣告時放上很多第三方廣告。 Steam讓消費者更想花錢 周中跟週末特賣已經撐不住了 感恩和聖誕節日還來該怎辦? -- -- ███ ▂▄▃ ││││ ˋ Mooncat~││││ 「人生 ◤ ◥▏*_▂ │││ 就是一連串不斷地後悔……」 ▌█ ▅▇*Mooncat~ *Mooncat~ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 220.135.42.241 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Steam/M.1445236070.A.140.html

10/19 14:29, , 1F
Steam沒有廣告 Steam本身就是一堆遊戲廣告呀~⊙▽⊙/
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10/19 14:30, , 2F
沒廣告我的荷包都這樣了 有廣告還得了
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10/19 14:31, , 3F
荷包君即將死於萬聖節特賣
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10/19 14:32, , 4F
特價廣告荷包君已死
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10/19 14:36, , 6F
太陽餅沒有太陽 鳳梨酥沒有鳳梨,錢包裡也沒有錢
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10/19 14:36, , 7F
買!都買!
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10/19 14:38, , 8F
我一直以為他們假想敵是Uplay跟Origin????
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10/19 14:39, , 9F
萬聖節要來了 之後還有聖誕節 最近錢包要顧好...
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10/19 14:42, , 10F
Steam的遊戲就是廣告+1
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10/19 14:43, , 11F
Origin跟Uplay份額很小很難比吧
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10/19 14:45, , 12F
特價廣告害人不淺
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10/19 14:48, , 13F
看到 XX% off 荷包君就不保了
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10/19 14:49, , 14F
最討厭看到XX% off了…崩潰
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10/19 14:51, , 15F
..........那我寧可他放多力多滋的廣告算了
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10/19 14:52, , 16F
更,沒有廣告,首頁上放的是什麼!!
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10/19 14:55, , 17F
呃,促銷通告?
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10/19 14:58, , 18F
75% or 多力多滋?
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10/19 14:58, , 19F
特價廣告超恐怖
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10/19 15:03, , 20F
其實蠻有道理的 玩家連上steam只會想看遊戲廣告而已
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10/19 15:04, , 21F
買,都買
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10/19 15:05, , 22F
那個節快來了...
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10/19 15:05, , 23F
因為本身就是廣告平台
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10/19 15:11, , 24F
2個噓文者已經kiss their wallets bye.
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10/19 15:12, , 25F
po文者是無辜的
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10/19 15:13, , 26F
來吧 萬聖節!
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10/19 15:15, , 27F
我在playstation的平台上也沒有看見廣告啊?
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10/19 15:16, , 28F
屁勒 steam沒廣告 一堆折價廣告(荷包君已死)
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10/19 15:16, , 29F
O跟U平台只有本家遊戲 根本不是對手
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10/19 15:20, , 30F
促銷特價廣告別再放了啊啊啊啊啊
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10/19 15:20, , 31F
為什麼我的steam有廣告... 中毒嗎?
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10/19 15:21, , 33F
遊戲推出跟特價才是我最想知道的>///<
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10/19 15:23, , 34F
patrickshou對那是一個叫做OffersWizard Ads的廣告病毒
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10/19 15:24, , 35F
沒有開玩笑 那真的是病毒 你趕快掃毒重灌以免帳密外洩..
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不得不說g胖真厲害
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10/19 15:24, , 37F
steam的遊戲廣告不是超多嗎?
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10/19 15:25, , 38F
他算是Adware 專門亂送廣告在瀏覽器中 它可能不會直接外
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10/19 15:25, , 39F
流你的帳密 但你電腦會中這個難保不會中其他惡意的程式
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10/19 15:27, , 40F
萬聖節好像也有特賣吧,糟糕了
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10/19 15:28, , 41F
howar31 感謝~ 我來掃毒看看
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10/19 15:29, , 42F
這裡說的廣告是指第三方廣告吧
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10/19 15:32, , 43F
可是G胖數不到3!!!!!!!!
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10/19 15:36, , 44F
甲方Steam 乙方使用者 第三方..首頁上那些好像都是⊙▽⊙
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10/19 15:40, , 45F
抽成抽那麼多,哪怕沒廣告
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10/19 16:07, , 46F
是無關GAME的 他就是賣GMAE的平台 不會去廣告有的沒
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10/19 16:15, , 47F
抱歉 patrickshou那廣告讓我嘴角失守XD
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10/19 16:18, , 48F
patrick....XD
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10/19 16:30, , 49F
中國網遊表示:什麼!? 沒廣告?!
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10/19 16:33, , 50F
有些人沒看內文 或是看了刻意耍冷
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10/19 16:40, , 51F
應正名為"遊戲卡片平台", 光靠卡片抽成就賺翻了
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10/19 16:47, , 52F
那廣告也太違和XDD
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10/19 16:53, , 53F
並不是只是一直叫玩家買入遊戲並加入資料庫中 恩..
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10/19 17:03, , 54F
+1
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10/19 17:12, , 55F
xbox和ps平台有第三方廣告? 我怎麼沒看過?
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10/19 17:18, , 56F
我也超害怕特價廣告(抖)
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10/19 17:35, , 57F
steam本身就是最可怕的遊戲廣告吧……
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10/19 17:35, , 58F
許多遊戲平台總是不懂steam對廣告的價值觀而放了一堆沒
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10/19 17:35, , 59F
用的廣告賺錢
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10/19 17:41, , 60F
你還是放多力多滋好了 這樣錢包可以少受傷一點
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10/19 17:48, , 61F
我今天才知道origin跟uplay有放廣告
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10/19 18:01, , 62F
夏季特賣只買到一款...是有的遊戲太多了嗎?
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10/19 18:12, , 63F
O跟U不是對手 甚至U的遊戲還要擺到Steam上來賣
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10/19 18:22, , 64F
xbox滿滿的廣告XD
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10/19 18:23, , 65F
Steam本身就是廣告
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10/19 18:47, , 66F
推回來
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10/19 18:47, , 67F
一堆不看內文的。文中都說是「跟遊戲無關的廣告」了
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10/19 18:52, , 68F
問題是..我想不出哪個像steam的平台有跟遊戲無關的廣告
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10/19 18:53, , 69F
重點是到位的廣告
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10/19 19:14, , 70F
歐美區的PS才看得到各種廣告 https://goo.gl/Pbll2n
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10/19 19:14, , 71F
像右上角的範例圖是汽車廣告
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10/19 19:14, , 72F
另外xbox和ps在美區有很多影視服務,這類內容也會有廣告
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10/19 19:15, , 73F
台灣區是因為服務太爛了只剩下遊戲
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10/19 19:36, , 74F
美PSN晃一圈才看到一個 http://imgur.com/2D85AFe
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10/19 19:36, , 75F
而且還是因為它有贊助優惠活動
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10/19 19:37, , 76F
影視類本來就是PSN的服務項目,不能算第三方廣告吧
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10/19 20:18, , 77F
第4頁,1500個以上的遊戲在Steam"OS"上可以運行
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10/19 20:30, , 78F
放多力多滋 買就送CSGOskin抽獎劵 這樣廣告就有效了
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10/19 20:33, , 79F
你還是放多力多滋吧,75%off 說不定很多人會買 XD
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10/19 20:36, , 80F
多力多滋75%off我一定會買 買了會吃 不像遊戲買來放著
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10/19 20:58, , 81F
我也覺得steam的遊戲廣告多到好可怕
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10/20 00:02, , 82F
我多麼希望我的老闆有同樣的想法......
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10/20 00:14, , 83F
patrickshou那是中毒吧??
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10/20 04:34, , 84F
patrick 被這篇文章救了XDDDDD
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聖誕節那才叫大廣告
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