[討論] EG:未來的打算。是PartinG,還是Life?

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來源:http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=412983 作者:Waxangel 翻譯:過氣明星 IdrA's gone. Stephano will be gone as well. So, what's in the future for Team Evil Geniuses? Well, they're going to have a lot of money come August. IdrA's contract is already off the books, minus some rent payments, and Stephano has announced his retirement for August 15th (assuming he signed a one-year contract, his contract ends around then anyway). IdrA退役了,Stephano也馬上要離開了。那麼,EG的未來會怎樣呢? EG會在今年8月份時攢下不少錢,因為IdrA和Stephano的離隊(後者應該是在8月15日合約到 期)。 In additional, they'll probably save some money on HuK in one way or another. HuK's EG signing was announced on August 17th of 2011, and he re-signed with EG in August of 2012, which tells us he has a 1 year contract. While we don't know if EG intends to let him walk or re-sign him at a lower rate (considering his form over the last year, a reduction seems inevitable), but in any case it's not hard to assume he'll be taking up less of their money this August. 並且,從某種角度來說,EG也會從HuK身上節約出一些資金來。2011年8月17日,EG與HuK簽 約;2012年8月,HuK與EG進行了1年的續約。或許我們現在不知道到時候EG是希望他離開或 是跟他低價續約(過去1年的表現使得HuK的降薪不可避免),但是在任一情況下,EG都能在今 年8月攢出不少的錢。 So, why is August important? Avid Brood War fans will probably have guessed by now: KeSPA contracts end and free agency begins in August-September, at the end of the Proleague season. That's right, EG could make a run at another marquee KeSPA player. 8月為什麼很重要呢?星海1死忠們肯定會脫口而出:轉會期。KeSPA的合約截止日期以 及自由轉會都是在8-9月,也就是SPL賽季結束後。沒錯,這意味著EG有機會競逐另一KeSPA 大將。 KeSPA has always been super secretive about contracts, and any information we know about contract amounts and lengths is typically from Korean news articles stating unspecific sources. KeSPA對於選手的合約有極其嚴格的保密規定,所以以下的任何合約細節,如工資和 時間長度,都是從聲稱無具體來源的韓媒上摘出來的。 The most lucrative potential target is SKT's PartinG. OSEN reported (English translation) that his current contract with SKT is only until September, the end of the Proleague season. OSEN reports a salary of around $65,000 for the nine months, which should be easy for EG to cover with money coming off the books. 最合算且具有極大潛力的目標當屬SKT的PartinG。OSEN報導過,他現在與SKT的合約僅到今 年9月,即SPL賽季結束。OSEN也報導說PartinG的工資大約是$65,000,時長為9個月--這對 EG來說很輕鬆,只需從大筆預算中撥出部分便可。 Besides PartinG, the only player who has both the skill and marketing value to be worth a large salary for EG is probably KT's Flash. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem too likely that he'll be free any time soon. The last time he was supposedly going to be a "free agent," it was revealed that KT Rolster already gave him an extension the previous year, in anticipation of free agency. At his current pace, it's hard to see KT Rolster ever letting him out of their grasp. 除了PartinG之外,另一個具有高水平和市場價值,且值得付高工資的選手或許就是KT的 Flash了。遺憾的是,他近期根本不可能恢復自由身份。 上次他被認定過是“自由身份”,但fomos披露KT早已經跟他進行了續約。以他現在的競技 狀態來看,KT幾乎不可能對他放手。 Still, we don't know who will be available come August, and who will be considered the best, or most entertaining player in the world. There are two WCS Season left until then, and a LOT can happen in that time. 所以說,我們現在很難看出誰會在8月份前成為自由身份,誰會在那個時候成為當下最好的 ,或是最具有娛樂精神的選手。還有兩個WCS賽季要進行,有很多事情都有可能發生。 The real question here is whether or not KeSPA will let one of their marquee guys leave. The Association did loan out Jaedong to EG last November (Korean media refers to it as a loan, though EG doesn't seem to care about disputing this discrepancy) but that was all part of a larger plan to bring in EG-TL into the Proleague, appeal to a western audience, and get some salary relief for their internally funded 8th Team. 現在,最為現實的問題是KeSPA會不會放他們的大牌選手離開。去年11月份, KeSPA租借Jaedong去了EG(韓媒用租借loan這個詞,但EG看上去並不在乎這個細枝末節所 引發的矛盾),但是,這也僅僅是KeSPA大計劃(EG-TL入駐SPL聯賽,吸引國外觀眾,貼補內 部構建的第8戰隊選手工資)的一部分。 The Jaedong free agency debacle of 2009 taught us that KeSPA is more than willing to implement arbitrary rules to make sure top teams keep their top stars when it suits them. The rules did change to be more reasonable as a result of the Jaedong controversy, but don't think for a second that the idea of an ace level player leaving wouldn't make them come up with enough red tape to package an elephant. 2009年Jaedong等人的自由身份風波, 讓KeSPA學會了更加依靠仲裁條例的完善,用以保證 明星選手存在於他們所契合的頂級隊伍中。 Jaedong事件使得管理條例變得更為合理,而且ace級別選手離隊所帶來的種種嚴重後果…… KeSPA根本不可能讓此發生。 While there's slim pickings in terms of star power, EG will definitely have the funds to pick up skillful, solid StarCraft II players should they decide they want to continue in Proleague (with or without TL). Revival, aLive, and Oz are bandaids, and they're showing nowhere near the skill of players you want to rely on as your core. But if it's cheap, pure talent they want, EG might as well pick off players on ESF teams instead of going after KeSPA free agents. 當有設計到明星效應的微小選人機會時,EG當然毫不猶豫的動用資金來購入高水平, 穩健的星海二選手,也尊重他們的選擇--是否繼續參加SPL,是否附加/不附加TL身份。 Revval,aLive和Oz都是OK蹦般的存在,他們展現出了遠不如核心選手 的能力。但是,如果是便宜又有天分的選手,EG也可能從eSF隊伍中,而不是KeSPA自由身份 選手中,去挑選。 Speaking of eSF, there's them and foreign players to think about outside KeSPA. But that's a year round opportunity as opposed to having a particular season. After the PuMa fiasco in 2011, EG's approach toward picking up eSF players seems to have become more cautious, due to fear of harming their relationship with various Korean entities (GomTV is the chair of eSF, after all). But in the end, one can only make so much of an argument about EG being the "bad guy" if they are offering a talented players the money they deserves. 說到eSF,可以考慮的有很多,包括非韓選手。但是這是一個全年的機會 ,而不是某個特定的賽季。在2011年PuMa醜聞後,EG選擇購買eSF選手變得更加謹慎許多, 因為畏於傷害到與各種韓國機構的關係(畢竟,GomTV是eSF的主席)。但是最終,雖然EG滿足 了天才選手們提出的薪資條件,人們也只會覺得EG是那個“壞人”。 As of now, it seems like Life is the only player they'd need that IdrA/Stephano/HuK/whatever money to acquire. Rumors are that Red Bull is very keen on keeping their logo on their little superstar, so it may take quite the bid to pry him away. Of the foreigners, DIMAGA is the only notable, teamless player who stands out, and perhaps he could become EG's next target depending on his performance at WCS Europe. It's hard to speculate too much about the foreign scene, considering Evil Geniuses already has Suppy and NaNiwa (on their Alliance brand), and we'll have to wait and see who receives acclaim at WCS EU/AM. 現在看來,考慮到IdrA/Stephano/HuK攢下來的餘錢,Life或許是唯一合適的選手。 有傳言說紅牛很熱衷於讓LOGO繼續印在他們的小明星上,所以EG應該需要較高的出價來挖走 Life。至於非韓選手,DIMAGA是唯一著名且沒有戰隊的選手。他在WCS歐洲賽區表現優異, 足以成為EG的下一個目標。但是非韓選手的情況不宜考慮過多,因為EG現在已經有Suppy和 NaNiwa,並且我們會等等看WCS EU/AM出來的優秀選手到底是誰。 On a final note, there are a lot of other considerations for EG as well. The Alliance brand needs expanding, they need to think about what do with Jaedong in November, and they need to think about whether or not they have the stomach for another season of Proleague. Not only that, but they sponsor players in multiple other games as well, and the cash could be redistributed in that direction. But in any case, they are losing two of their biggest StarCraft II stars, and they have the need and the money to replace them. 作為最後的總結,EG還會有更多其他要考慮的因素。他們要考慮聯隊商標品牌的擴充問題, 他們要考慮11月份與Jaedong的事宜,他們要考慮還有沒有足夠的膽量去參加下個賽季的SPL 。不僅如此,他們也會贊助選手去參加其他多種比賽,資金或許會重新流向其餘方向。 但是不論在任何情況下,他們已經失去了星海爭霸2的兩個巨星(Stephano和IdrA), 急需用金錢來補充餘下的空位。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 101.12.0.33

05/17 20:16, , 1F
這..
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放過蟲族希望阿...
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05/17 20:17, , 3F
這篇剛剛聊過 有些根本是是TL鄉民自己的yy
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05/17 20:17, , 4F
可以確定的是EG確實有資金 而且是非常大筆的資金
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05/17 20:18, , 5F
考慮到這篇提到的3個人+離隊的Puma EG至少有30萬美金可以
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用 這筆資金端看EG想要怎麼玩
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進擊的EG
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05/17 20:19, , 8F
教主至少要60W美
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05/17 20:19, , 9F
想多了,EG要先挖到 Rain才能挖到胖丁
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05/17 20:19, , 10F
教主當然是挖不走 但絕不是EG沒錢挖教主
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05/17 20:20, , 11F
媽的簽走來福我就黑死EG 這麼不想給蟲族活路逆
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05/17 20:20, , 12F
從LGIM那邊搶squirtle感覺不錯
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(不過...Bogus多少錢?)
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EG口袋有KT深嗎
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EG窮的只剩錢 剩下少數幾個能看得其他都廢材
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EG口袋夠簽life嗎?
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05/17 20:21, , 17F
EG有母企業嗎
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05/17 20:21, , 18F
EG要簽肯定有錢 問題是教主在KT一不缺錢二又不用出國
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05/17 20:21, , 19F
是你你會選哪? 出國也沒多多少 自己國內還有頂級聯賽
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05/17 20:22, , 20F
這是害人?還是幫人?
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05/17 20:23, , 21F
NANIWA在EG??
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05/17 20:23, , 22F
EG簽誰誰倒 拜託別簽大牌
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05/17 20:24, , 23F
EG魔咒,到底有誰還想試試
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05/17 20:24, , 24F
Naniwa那個Alliance戰隊 被鄉民發現掛在EG的伺服器裏面
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05/17 20:24, , 25F
有人說NANIWA現在那個戰隊其實是EG的小號..
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05/17 20:24, , 26F
一般咸認就是EG的馬甲隊伍
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05/17 20:24, , 27F
如果簽個爛到底的+魔咒 看會不會反彈
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05/17 20:25, , 28F
連戰隊都有小號,用來保皇的嗎? XD
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05/17 20:25, , 29F
EG總有種邪惡帝國的感覺
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05/17 20:25, , 30F
人家就是有錢 爽 等等連健身房都蓋個小號的
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05/17 20:26, , 31F
puma醜聞?
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05/17 20:26, , 32F
不過酸歸酸 他們對選手還是不錯的
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05/17 20:26, , 33F
puma醜聞指的是私下把PUMA從TSL挖走
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Puma當時轉隊發生爭議 TSL堅持Puma的合約還沒走完
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05/17 20:27, , 35F
我比較擔心們一下子失去可能是歐美粉絲最多的兩個選手
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05/17 20:27, , 36F
贊助商還肯不肯掏這麼多錢給EG XD
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TSL發生合約問題也不是一兩次了..
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所以才說EG可能想要幹筆大的 不然走掉以後對EG很傷
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05/17 20:28, , 39F
EG還有LOL撐場面阿
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EG有這些隊伍:DotA2/SC2/Quake/SSF 4/WoW/LoL
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他們很有本錢的
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05/17 20:29, , 42F
進EG都過太爽 競技力自然就會下降惹
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Evil Gym
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沒有母企業 我是教主也會選KT
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EG的收入來源只有靠贊助嗎?很不保險的感覺
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05/17 20:31, , 46F
乾脆老爺去EG吧 你的親爹朴教練在等你阿
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05/17 20:32, , 47F
的確 挖老爺吧 肯定上場又帥到流汁
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05/17 20:33, , 48F
省得在SKT1當灰姑娘 各種被親生的私生的欺侮
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菜東+老爺 帥到掉渣
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JD+老爺 帥的一蹋糊塗的隊伍
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05/17 20:33, , 51F
老爺中了詛咒說不定還會變強
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05/17 20:34, , 52F
老爺是步險棋歐 不過賭到的話EG會發
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05/17 20:35, , 53F
特別他們有朴霸王 他應該對老爺滿了解的
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老爺起碼人氣很高(?
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很邪門 進來沒一個好的
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05/17 20:47, , 56F
不過說真的 老爺去了肯定狀況更差 根本沒人能教他..
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最多就是跟HERO一樣
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05/17 20:50, , 58F
檯面上也沒人看起來能救老爺阿....
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05/17 20:52, , 59F
所以才叫賭,老爺總不能替皇太子洗一輩子的碗呀
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05/17 20:57, , 60F
最少SKP1很多P 老爺洗碗也能偷看一點..
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05/17 20:58, , 61F
都看兩年了XD
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05/17 21:00, , 62F
原來parting薪水9個月200萬
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05/17 21:18, , 63F
PartinG真的有本錢跳啊 神族一哥
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05/17 21:28, , 64F
Parting不會想去吧 去那邊都被隊友坑
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05/17 21:39, , 65F
可是來福也滿多GSL隊伍想搶的說
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05/17 21:58, , 66F
老爺要不要去看看能不能負負得正XDDD
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PartinG很有可能跳啊 EG可是$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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挖老爺 挖太子 挖解凍 這樣不是很酷? 只是有錢也挖不到
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來福除了看ST能不能續簽 其他GSL簽不起 銀彈遠不如EG跟K營
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05/17 22:01, , 70F
AZUBU/LG-IM表示:Hmm? Money?
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不過LG-IM是沒看起來很有錢就是...LG沒給他們很多支持
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05/17 22:06, , 72F
我忘了還有AZUBU這個有錢的
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05/17 22:17, , 73F
AZUBU有錢歸有錢....但隊友.....
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05/17 22:20, , 74F
可以簽bisu 說不定會大爆發 (  ̄ c ̄)y▂ξ
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05/17 22:21, , 75F
AZUBU還可以 就看那堆有點過氣的能不能重展雄風
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不過Symbol/Violet還是不錯的
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老爺這週不知道還有沒有望上場 唉
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AZUBU是買了一堆過氣選手來當EVE的陪練好嗎
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05/17 22:33, , 79F
別這樣XD 爾金還不錯 Violet國外賽表現也不賴
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05/17 22:40, , 80F
爾金可是這屆唯一的非Kespa
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05/17 22:53, , 81F
拜託放過Life
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EG到底要搞垮幾個蟲族?
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huk…
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胖丁會捨得離開基友嗎?
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05/18 00:46, , 85F
life如果不選擇KESPA 感覺沒辦法再進步了
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隊裡已經沒甚麼大將可以練習
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05/18 01:26, , 87F
沒記錯的話Sen之前想去EG 還好沒去XD
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05/18 04:45, , 88F
問一下.6W5是美金嘛??
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05/18 04:54, , 89F
6.5w USD 約 200w NTD 約 7500w韓元
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真的要好戰績的話何苦挖Z
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05/18 22:22, , 91F
EG簽誰誰就倒 不只SC2如此
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05/19 16:47, , 92F
叫EG簽>EGFalinRc 每年20wP幣
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