[討論] 關於模聯 (恐英文者慎入)

看板SENIORHIGH作者 (犀牛好可愛)時間7年前 (2016/08/24 02:51), 7年前編輯推噓14(16218)
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引用原文 「 To the MUN community. First, right off the bat, I’m stating that I respect each and everyone’s opi nions. I also understand that we all see things in a different limelight- ther efore I’m writing this to express mine. Hope that others will treat me with t he same amount of respect, but also feel free to share your opinions in a “di plomatic courtesy”. (Also, yes. I’m writing this in english, because it’s t he language I’m most comfortable using. Not because I’m a “Western wannabe ”, believe it or not. Though I’m contemplating posting a Mandarin version... ) 1. Regarding how “MUN is now only a rich man’s game”. If you’re going to be complaining about the ridiculous prices of some confere nces, please, um, don’t when you’ve CHOSEN to go to those conferences. Yes, I agree. There are some conferences that I would really like to go to, but, un fortunately, they are overpriced. Now, idk why they’ve come to be this expens ive or wth they are doing with the money, but, here’s a thing: don’t choose to go to them. Pretty simple, right? You can find conferences ranging from 200 NT to 6000+ NT. Why not choose going to the cheaper ones? It’ll save you a l ot of saliva and typing. Who knows, maybe if lesser people are going to expens ive conferences they’ll end up lowering the price (? 2. Regarding how “MUN is only for people who are good at English”. Here’s the thing: there are so many aspects to MUN. It’s not just about how good your english is, it’s also about articulating your thoughts, approaching people with diplomatic courtesy, thinking critically, putting yourself in dif ferent POVs...etc. However, I’ll admit that people with better english can ac hieve all these easier in an ENGLISH conference. And vice versa, in a CHINESE conference. If I attended a conference in Chinese, tbh I don’t think I’ll be able to perform as well compared to English conferences. Yes, I’ll still hav e my own critical thinking intact, but it’s merely just because I’m (1) not confident enough in using it and (2) I’m not as fluent in it compared to my E nglish. Nowadays, practically every conference has at least one chinese commit tee. It’s a CHOICE. I don’t think being good in english is something to brag about, and vice versa with chinese, too. Just because a person speaks english well, doesn’t mean that they have anything in their brains to offer. 3. Regarding “Westernization”. I honestly think that the people that are making a fuss about this are childis h and have not taken anything from MUN at all. If some people want to speak mo re “western” or act more “western”, LET THEM BE. Honestly, is it hurting y ou? Is it hurting your cat? Your dog? The environment? The world? No. Some peo ple might just respect more cultures more than others. What about 韓流 or 日流 or whatever- 流?I don’t see anything wrong with that. And regarding people who think westernization equals international. First off, westernization does not equal to international. Take Donald Trump for example. Enough said. 4. Regarding how “some delegates just follow around delegates that are more w ell-spoken”. It’s true that this happens a lot. But I think that everyone’s abilities and experiences with MUN are different. Some might be less experience, therefore they’d naturally want to latch onto an experienced delegate that makes them f eel more at ease or someone they think can guide them. Thinking back at when I first started MUN as a 7th grader, it was something I was guilty of, too. And I think a lot of people will experience when first starting out. Just because now you get BDs all the time or you’re a bloc leader or you get offers to ch air doesn’t mean that you are in any way better than them. Instead of posting on FB and complaining about this, why not actually approach those certain del egates and ask why they’ve chosen to join a certain bloc or give some encoura gement? You could even yield some time to them. All of us were beginners at fi rst. How high of a pedestal do you put yourself on that you’d actually discri minate or dislike the delegates that are doing the things you previously did? 5. Regarding how “MUN is not about the academics anymore”. I agree. Completely. It’s not just about the academics. It’s about how profe ssional the conference room is. If the social event is “dope” enough. If the guys/girls in your committee are hot. If the page notes they give you are cut e. If you meet new friends. If you meet old friends. If you get a t-shirt. If you make unforgettable memories. If the food there is good. If you spent a lon g time researching and preparing. If it’ll look good on your college applicat ion form. If you improved from your last conference. If the photographers take good photos that make you look taller than you actually are (Is this one just me? Kay.). What I’m trying to say is- everyone sees MUN differently, and eve ryone attends MUN for different reasons. Some might see the importance in acad emics, some might not. If you really want to attend a conference with impressi onable academics, ask a friends for some reviews or do some research. I’m pre tty sure if you’ve been in the MUN community long enough, you already have a basic impression on most conferences. Regardless of people’s motives for atte nding MUN, we should just respect each other. At the end of the day, it’s the ir money, not yours. Lastly, some people might disagree with me or think that I’m just naive or wh atever. But coming from a fairly young MUNer that started out in 7th grade and is now a rising 10th grader, I think that all the so-called problems are self -inflicted. We all have a part in why the MUN society in Taiwan has become thi s way. I admit that sometimes I’m very under-prepared or I use English as an advantage in conferences. Therefore, what I’m just trying to say is: Don’t bitch about it if you are one of the causes of these so-called problems - start by changing yourself first . 這是一個模聯社的副社長寫的 本人看完雖也有些微詞,但自己本身也沒參加過模聯,不太好做評論 想請問板上參加過模聯的大大給點意見,自己參加過的模聯是否像她說的這樣? 原文網址 https://m.facebook.com/notes/sidney-khoe/to-the-mun-community/724375747703428/ 英文頗多抱歉惹 不習慣看英文的也可以趁機會練閱讀(? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 78.43.245.172 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/SENIORHIGH/M.1471978294.A.A67.html

08/24 03:15, , 1F
他講的沒錯啊。
08/24 03:15, 1F

08/24 03:15, , 2F
模聯早就變調了
08/24 03:15, 2F
※ 編輯: backpacker18 (78.43.245.172), 08/24/2016 03:27:18

08/24 03:32, , 3F
你不要直接貼上讓他斷在邊邊好不好 看得很痛苦
08/24 03:32, 3F
沒注意抱歉 改完了

08/24 06:45, , 4F
中肯
08/24 06:45, 4F

08/24 08:18, , 5F
英文不好的人去參加一次會議看看就知道慘況囉^ ^
08/24 08:18, 5F

08/24 09:02, , 6F
英文就不用排版嗎.....
08/24 09:02, 6F
已改sor

08/24 09:13, , 7F
學校的腦學弟還在護航
08/24 09:13, 7F

08/24 09:31, , 8F
就是說出大家都知道的事實吧 哈
08/24 09:31, 8F

08/24 09:31, , 9F
我恐英文QQ
08/24 09:31, 9F
有人翻譯了

08/24 09:35, , 10F
模聯真的很腦,辦活動根本就在大雜燴
08/24 09:35, 10F

08/24 09:40, , 11F
借問一下 模聯的意義是什麼阿 台灣又沒加入聯合國
08/24 09:40, 11F

08/24 10:11, , 12F
就說出事實啊mun的報名費真的很貴.....
08/24 10:11, 12F

08/24 10:22, , 13F
英文也是要排版的好嗎
08/24 10:22, 13F

08/24 10:56, , 14F
1,2,5 is really constructive idea ! A gown/suit
08/24 10:56, 14F

08/24 10:56, , 15F
for once is several thousands dollars and it's
08/24 10:56, 15F

08/24 10:56, , 16F
nothing to do with academic performance xD (既
08/24 10:56, 16F

08/24 10:56, , 17F
然你都用英文了我也回回我的經驗哈哈
08/24 10:56, 17F

08/24 12:09, , 18F
他說的沒錯啊XDDD 模連跟有錢人的扮家家酒87成像
08/24 12:09, 18F

08/24 12:11, , 19F
同意英文要排版…至少那個斷字斷句…
08/24 12:11, 19F
已改sor

08/24 12:11, , 20F
不過窮人真的想玩的確也有窮人的方法
08/24 12:11, 20F

08/24 12:12, , 21F
而且我看到參加的人英文其實未必很好 只是人家比較
08/24 12:12, 21F

08/24 12:12, , 22F
勇敢而已
08/24 12:12, 22F

08/24 13:42, , 23F
我同學去模聯的都真的是有錢人@@…
08/24 13:42, 23F

08/24 14:06, , 24F
去過一次真心覺得英文要先練更好不然真的有時候就是
08/24 14:06, 24F

08/24 14:06, , 25F
在旁邊看戲
08/24 14:06, 25F

08/24 15:24, , 26F
他提到參加中文委員會以及模聯的多面向,但事實上,
08/24 15:24, 26F

08/24 15:24, , 27F
中文委員會從來就沒有獲得重視,而不論模聯有多少
08/24 15:24, 27F

08/24 15:24, , 28F
面向,當你在台上無法流利的講英文,多數人會選擇
08/24 15:24, 28F

08/24 15:24, , 29F
直接忽略你
08/24 15:24, 29F

08/24 20:26, , 30F
我這英語系的 看到你這排版我也不想看了
08/24 20:26, 30F
英語系何苦為難英語系QQ

08/24 20:26, , 31F
而且看不到你的thesis statement根本不懂你整篇論點
08/24 20:26, 31F
這不是我打的啊 純粹問問有參加過MUN的opinions ※ 編輯: backpacker18 (109.193.207.51), 08/24/2016 22:19:18

08/25 00:42, , 32F
參加過ㄧ次,結論就是英文要好+有錢~
08/25 00:42, 32F

08/25 12:31, , 33F
Gosh我看過原文
08/25 12:31, 33F

08/27 07:23, , 34F
模聯的確是這樣 但現實世界也常常是這樣QQ要有錢 英
08/27 07:23, 34F

08/27 07:23, , 35F
文要好
08/27 07:23, 35F

08/27 10:22, , 36F
不就自慰社團ㄇ 顆顆
08/27 10:22, 36F
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