[翻譯] Phillies lead in Manny Sweepstakes

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Phillies lead in Manny Sweepstakes By Jon Heyman, SI.com Updated: Tuesday July 29, 2008 10:10PM 一些熟悉Manny交易案討論案的人士告訴SI.com, 紅襪隊已經和費城人及兩個其他的球 隊討論超級球星Manny Ramirez可能的交易案。 　　 費城人現在可能是達成這項交易案的領先球隊，只要紅襪和費城人這兩支球隊可以達 成這項交易的的話，費城人顯然已經表示有意願讓Manny來到費城人隊。紅襪的官方人員幾 天前承認費城人是可能交易Manny的球隊，而費城人也表達了意願。 其他兩支對Manny有興趣的球隊則不是很清楚，但是自從Ramirez公開對球隊高層表達 不滿後，有消息表示道奇和馬林魚隊都顯示了對Manny有一些程度的興趣。假如這是真實的 話，薪資總額只有2200萬的馬林魚隊會有興趣是比較令人吃驚的。道奇隊則不讓人意外， 自從道奇的老闆Frank McCourt買下球隊後，便一直在收集紅襪隊放出的球員。相信在和道 奇隊討論這項交易案中提到了Matt Kemp的名字。 就在Manny曾經提到在波士頓這個熱愛棒球的城市有某些程度的不舒服之後，紅襪已經 好多年沒有提到關於Ramirez的交易案了。而在過去幾年雖然還是有這樣的聲音，紅襪隊還 是決定要留住這位不太愉快的長打者。 　　　 　　交易這麼有貢獻和關鍵時刻的打者看來有很大的風險，但是一些波士頓的人士相信紅 襪隊最終已經到了要改變心意的點了，因為Manny幾週前批評紅襪隊的高層，然後他又被 批評在對上洋基隊的第一場比賽不想上場比賽。 目前還不清楚紅襪隊會想從和費城人這項可能的交易中拿到什麼。但是，左外野手 Pat Burrell和Manny有類似的統計數字(Burrell 103場比賽打出.277/.400/.585，有26支 全壘打，61分打點; Manny 98場比賽則是.304/.400/.538有20支全壘打，68分打點)，所 以邏輯上是合適的人選。就像Ramirez一樣，Burrell也有不可交易的條款。在過去幾年， Burrell表達的意願是只有交易到紅襪或洋基他才會放棄不可交易的條款。 假如這項交易有可能完成的話，加入Ramirez將讓費城人隊變成棒球史上最恐怖的打 線之一。費城人的攻擊能力最近有點下滑，如果可以加入預定進入古柏鎮(名人堂)的 Ramirez可能會是很大的提昇，Ramirez與費城人隊的總教練Charlie Manuel長久以來便有 友好的關係，當Ramirez在印地安人隊時Manuel是隊中的打擊教練。 Ramirez在他和紅襪隊的合約中有不可交易的條款，相信會讓Manny在交易中放棄這項 條款，因為紅襪隊應該不會執行Manny 2009年2000萬的選擇權，讓Manny在季後變成自由球 員。Manny今年的薪資同樣是2000萬，他則已經對合約中2009年和2010年球隊2000萬的選擇 權感到不高興。 The Red Sox have been talking to the Phillies and two other teams about a possible trade for embattled superstar Manny Ramirez, people familiar with the talks told SI.com. The Phillies may now be the front-runner for Ramirez, who apparently has indicated a willingness to go to Philadelphia if the two teams can consummate a trade. Red Sox officials identified Philadelphia as a possible landing spot for Ramirez a few days ago, and the Phillies have shown interest. The other teams in the mix for Ramirez aren't known, but it is believed that the Dodgers and Marlins showed some level of interest in the past few days, since Ramirez ignited a public battle with his team. If true, the Marlins' interest would be stunning in that they have a baseball-low $22-million payroll. The Dodgers' interest wouldn't be surprising in that their owner Frank McCourt has collected Red Sox since buying the team. Matt Kemp's name is believed to have come up in talks with the Dodgers. The Red Sox have held trade talks regarding Ramirez on and off for years, ever since he first expressed some level of discomfort playing in Boston, an intense baseball city. And as in the past, Boston could still decide to hold onto the unhappy slugger. Dealing such a productive and clutch player would be seen as a major risk, but some people in Boston believe the Red Sox may finally be at their breaking point regarding Ramirez, who criticized upper management a few weeks ago, then came under fire for not playing the first game of a series against the rival Yankees. It isn't yet known what players Boston seeks in a potential trade with the Phillies. However, left fielder Pat Burrell is having a similar year statistically (.277/.400/.585 with 26 HRs and 61 RBIs in 103 games for Burrell; .304/.400/.538 with 20 HRs and 68 RBIs in 98 games for Ramirez) and could be a logical fit. Like Ramirez, Burrell has a no-trade clause. In the past, Burrell has indicated a willingness to waive his no-trade provision only to go to Boston or the Yankees. If a deal can be completed, the addition of Ramirez would give Philadelphia one of the most dangerous lineups in baseball. The Phillies' offense has been struggling lately and could use a boost from the Cooperstown-bound Ramirez, who has a longstanding and friendly relationship with Phillies manager Charlie Manuel, Ramirez's hitting coach when the two were in Cleveland. Ramirez has a no-trade clause in his Red Sox contract, and it is believed that to get Ramirez to sign off on the trade, the $20-million club option for 2009 would likely be dropped, allowing him to become a free agent at season's end. Ramirez is making $20 million this year as well. Ramirez has been unhappy with the $20-million team options in his contract for 2009 and '10. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 220.132.198.21
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07/30 18:03, , 1F
Pat the bat是個非常棒的球員 雖然守備可能和Manny
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07/30 18:04, , 2F
一樣XD 他在費城也相當受到喜愛
07/30 18:04, 2F
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07/30 18:04, , 3F
o樣換到底有啥意義-_-
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07/30 18:07, , 4F
我也覺得沒意義　兩個都是當地球迷的愛　互換好怪＝　＝
07/30 18:07, 4F
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07/30 18:08, , 5F
不過真的如這篇的另一個rumor有Matt Kemp的話那倒是
07/30 18:08, 5F
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07/30 18:08, , 6F
可以接受
07/30 18:08, 6F
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07/30 18:14, , 7F
大家對Matt Kemp評價這麼高喔
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07/30 18:15, , 8F
[因為他年輕可守CF而且有長成砲的潛力
07/30 18:15, 8F
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07/30 18:15, , 9F
卻在道奇要和幾個廢物搶位置
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07/30 18:18, , 10F
Kemp 23歲而已SLG.482 Minor OPS.878 換的到是賺
07/30 18:18, 10F
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07/30 18:21, , 11F
我只是認為他這兩年的成績有點不符期待
07/30 18:21, 11F
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07/30 18:23, , 12F
你們根本不需要Kemp啊~_~Manny for Kemp吃大虧
07/30 18:23, 12F
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07/30 18:23, , 13F
如果是換Kemp的話一定不會是1 for 1
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07/30 18:25, , 14F
的確Moss也可能成為Murphy
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07/30 18:26, , 15F
現在Manny算高點 季後賽威能加持 要交易絕對是搶
07/30 18:26, 15F
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07/30 18:40, , 16F
別鬧了 換啥咪Burrell=.=....
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07/30 18:43, , 17F
換得到也是科兩聲吧
07/30 18:43, 17F
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07/30 18:51, , 18F
我比較想要Manny留下來 因為季後賽貢獻無可取代
07/30 18:51, 18F
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07/30 18:52, , 19F
現今MLB根本沒人取代的了他= =
07/30 18:52, 19F
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07/30 18:58, , 20F
道奇還是想辦法解決安豬的問題實在...
07/30 18:58, 20F
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07/30 19:01, , 21F
道奇GM腦殘 他們並不想解決問題
07/30 19:01, 21F
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07/30 19:04, , 22F
總板覺得費城如果丟Burrell是腦殘ㄝ
07/30 19:04, 22F
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07/30 19:05, , 23F
換一隻瞎子幹麻......
07/30 19:05, 23F
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07/30 19:08, , 24F
總版是總版 襪版是襪版
07/30 19:08, 24F
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07/30 19:11, , 25F
偉哉 ㄌㄉㄉㄉ!!!
07/30 19:11, 25F
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07/30 19:19, , 26F
Burrell不盲 BB多 K更多 Manny只是生涯打擊率高很多
07/30 19:19, 26F
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07/30 19:20, , 27F
拜託一下 Manny跟Burrell無法相提並論好嗎
07/30 19:20, 27F
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07/30 19:20, , 28F
連Matt來都不一定能完全取代Manny的能力
07/30 19:20, 28F
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07/30 19:23, , 29F
Burrell不盲是事實阿 跟取代Manny有啥關係
07/30 19:23, 29F
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07/30 19:31, , 30F
matt 是 KEMP 嗎? 如果pat不能彌補 matt 可以??
07/30 19:31, 30F
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07/30 19:31, , 31F
Matt Holliday啦
07/30 19:31, 31F
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07/30 19:32, , 32F
我這樣講好了 目前MLB根本找不到可以取代Manny的人
07/30 19:32, 32F
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07/30 19:34, , 33F
喔喔holliday阿 不過把Matt的主場成績拿掉有比pat好??
07/30 19:34, 33F
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07/30 19:35, , 34F
holliday HR總數目前18 主場12 客場6
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07/30 19:42, , 35F
Burrell目前全壘打總數26，主場9，客場17(客場OPS=1.159)
07/30 19:42, 35F
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07/30 19:43, , 36F
除此之外Burrell是專打下半季的,上半季OPS=0.979下半季1.030
07/30 19:43, 36F
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07/30 19:44, , 37F
另外他去年跟今年OPS都比Manny好，本季九次助殺是LF之冠...
07/30 19:44, 37F
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07/30 19:44, , 38F
但他不會來紅襪，所以別擔心你們會換到一個所謂的"盲砲"
07/30 19:44, 38F
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07/30 19:55, , 39F
換Kemp+KUO 也不錯
07/30 19:55, 39F
還有 38 則推文
還有 1 段內文
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07/30 20:58, , 78F
他怎樣批評高層阿 爬文都找不到QQ
07/30 20:58, 78F
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07/30 21:01, , 79F
Pat是個好球員 但他挺玻璃的 Kemp倒是不錯的人選
07/30 21:01, 79F
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07/30 21:04, , 80F
可是後面有Moss不試試看 用Kemp說不過去
07/30 21:04, 80F
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07/30 21:05, , 81F
如果能換到Kemp+Martin就好了
07/30 21:05, 81F
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07/30 21:08, , 82F
樓上想太多了 = =
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07/30 21:09, , 83F
真的這樣換 科科提應該會被躲人迷暗殺
07/30 21:09, 83F
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07/30 21:13, , 84F
我會說Burrell比較強當然是因為Manny退化啊....
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07/30 21:14, , 85F
以Manny的年紀接下來只會更糟不會更好了
07/30 21:14, 85F
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07/30 21:14, , 86F
如果能換到Burrell好處是 再跟他續四到五年長約
07/30 21:14, 86F
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07/30 21:14, , 87F
因為Manny不會是BB爺
07/30 21:14, 87F
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07/30 21:16, , 88F
未來幾年中心打線不愁沒人(Papi 32 Pat 31)
07/30 21:16, 88F
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07/30 21:16, , 89F
不過我還是得說這交易發生的可能性幾近於零
07/30 21:16, 89F
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07/30 21:17, , 90F
費城GM都拿明日之星的2B去換布蘭頓 不是不可能
07/30 21:17, 90F
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07/30 21:17, , 91F
對了 別忘記如果不想讓Manny白白季末走人或是不爽的
07/30 21:17, 91F
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07/30 21:18, , 92F
留下來整天自己放假 可能還得端上3~4年平均20m的長約
07/30 21:18, 92F
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07/30 21:18, , 93F
考量到這點我覺得現在是處理Manny最好的時刻
07/30 21:18, 93F
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07/30 21:23, , 94F
就看明天會不會有爆炸性發展了 我最愛的Manny...但為了
07/30 21:23, 94F
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07/30 21:24, , 95F
Redsox好 Manny交易掉比較好 唉 我的T都是Manny的..
07/30 21:24, 95F
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07/30 21:28, , 96F
搞不好換農場回來 再簽個BB不是不可能
07/30 21:28, 96F
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07/30 21:28, , 97F
如果是農場的話大概是以Lou Marson為中心
07/30 21:28, 97F
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07/30 21:29, , 98F
簽BB 波士頓會暴動 theo的英名也會一夕over
07/30 21:29, 98F
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07/30 21:31, , 99F
換農場回來，明年再來這樣嗎? 別鬧了大哥
07/30 21:31, 99F
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07/30 21:31, , 100F
我是希望如果Manny走可以搞個130*OPS+然後防守平均的外댠
07/30 21:31, 100F
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07/30 21:37, , 101F
有ops+130的外野手 就不會要Manny了
07/30 21:37, 101F
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07/30 21:42, , 102F
找山本夢納來守我們的LF好了
07/30 21:42, 102F
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07/30 21:46, , 103F
阿..我比較愛西川醫生耶..
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07/30 22:30, , 104F
西川不是整年報銷了嗎
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07/30 22:33, , 105F
報銷的是夢娜吧
07/30 22:33, 105F
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07/30 22:37, , 106F
幹 我是在講西川投手啦
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07/30 22:37, , 107F
但是星野作教練大家不會有反對意見吧
07/30 22:37, 107F
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07/30 22:47, , 108F
Manny季後是很強沒錯. 但紅襪這麼有把握今年有季後賽??
07/30 22:47, 108F
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07/30 22:53, , 109F
目前看起來機會還有 最差情況可以搶外卡
07/30 22:53, 109F
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07/30 22:55, , 110F
Holliday 這兩年OPS+都超過150
07/30 22:55, 110F
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07/31 00:15, , 111F
哈哈 所以以後UK要去守左外囉~
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07/31 00:39, , 112F
能不能把小亨利換回來阿 QQ
07/31 00:39, 112F
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07/31 00:43, , 113F
一直在收集紅襪隊放出的球員....另一個nyy？
07/31 00:43, 113F
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07/31 02:33, , 114F
為甚麼大家都要Manny走 Q_Q....
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07/31 03:05, , 115F
因為他夠老了86*2+?年.....
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11/03 23:55, , 116F
費城GM都拿明日之星的 https://noxiv.com
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12/28 20:16, 5年前 , 117F
道奇GM腦殘 他們並 https://muxiv.com
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