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標題: [爆卦] 美國於SFPT即承認日本對台灣有剩餘主權
時間: Wed Oct 15 22:16:16 2014
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美國官網承認1952年簽署的舊金山和平條約,
日本對台灣有剩餘主權.
http://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1952-54v14p2/d595
FOREIGN RELATIONS OF THE UNITED STATES, 1952–1954
VOLUME XIV, PART 2, CHINA AND JAPAN (IN TWO PARTS), DOCUMENT 595
美國的外交關係 1952-1954
第14冊第2部,中國和日本(在兩個部分),文件595,
794C.0221/8–2952
No. 595
The Deputy Secretary of Defense (Foster) to the Secretary of State
Washington, 29 August 1952.
美國國防部副部長(Foster)對美國國務卿1952年8月29日華盛頓.
4. In Article 2 of the Peace Treaty, Japan renounced right, title and claim
to Korea, Formosa, the Kuriles, Sakhalin, the Mandated Islands, Antarctic
area, the Spratly Islands and the Paracel Islands. It may be inferred that
ultimate Japanese sovereignty was recognized over the islands she agreed to
place in trusteeship. This conception was conceded by Mr. Dulles (page 78,
Dept. State Publication 4392)8 and by Mr. Younger, the U.K. delegate (page
93, Dept. State Publication 4392). Mr. Dulles speaks of the current Japanese
position as “residual sovereignty”.
在SFPT第2條,日本放棄對朝鮮,福爾摩沙,千島群島,庫頁島,南洋群島,南極區域,西沙群島
,南沙群島的權利,資格,和主張,這可推斷日本承認對於這些島嶼擁有最終的主權而她同意
置於託管制度.這個概念由杜勒斯和英國的委任代表楊格先生所承認(page 78,93,美國國
務院公報4392)杜勒斯演講對於日本當時的立場是"剩餘主權".
結論:日本對台灣有剩餘主權,台灣人到現在扔然是日本人.
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本文前面就有美國案例,
ROC沒有台灣的主權.
這很早以前就已經成立,
不是到現在才成立.
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台灣的情形沒辦法自決,
因為照這份文件台灣是有主地,
非放棄後有決定未來方向的自主地,
跟琉球是類似的同等地位,
因為日本對台灣跟琉球都有剩餘主權.
所以台灣要獨立?
一定要經過日本同意才可以.
就像蘇格蘭前一陣子要獨立,
照英國的法律是要英國同意才可以,
因為英皇是經過personal union得到蘇格蘭的主權,
蘇格蘭是依英國的法律在英國議會同意下,
整併成為單一議會併入聯合王國,
所以理所當然擁有其主權的英國要讓蘇格蘭獨立,
照法律也要英國國會同意你可以獨立才可以,
同樣的你要辦公投,
也要英國國會同意你辦才可以,
因為這樣才有法源依據.
不是靠民意強大就可以決定一切,
那是中國人的想法.
※ 編輯: bomberhack (1.160.122.93), 10/16/2014 01:09:12
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請問一下你的國際法依據在哪裡?
請舉證.
你會講這種話就表示你一點都不懂國際法,
而且還連三虛,
真是辛苦你了.
佔領也是實質統治,
美軍攻打伊拉克,
佔領伊拉克,
也是實質統治伊拉克.
為什麼最後歸還給伊拉克人民組成的政府?
因為國際法鐵則,
佔領不能移轉主權.
因為中華民國統治當局是因為在美國的同意下佔領台灣.
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/177/281/1884676/
From the foregoing official pronouncements of the Department of State.....
......Formosa may be said to be a territory or an area occupied and administered by
the Government of the Republic of China, but is not officially recognized as
being a part of the Republic of China.
從美國國務院官方的公報顯示....福爾摩沙可以說是一個領土被ROC政府管理和佔領,
但並非正式承認為ROC的一部份。
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/280/663/263574/
At the present time, we accept the exercise of Chinese authority over Formosa...
在當前,我們(美國)同意中國當局在台灣....
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而舊金山和平條約的第23條主要佔領權國為美國,第四條B美國軍事政府有權處分台灣.
美國軍事政府可以不親自佔領而指定當局佔領,以延續佔領.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/343/341/case.html
Although the local government was no longer a "Military Government," it was a
government prescribed by an occupying power, and it depended upon the
continuing military occupancy of the territory.
然而地方政府不再是"軍事政府",它是由一個佔領權規定的政府,且他依然持續軍事佔領這
片土地.
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以美國來說佔領中止可由總統或國會來決定,
同理指定佔領當局也是由這兩者來決定.
因此美國國會制定的臺灣關係法是指定誰是佔領統治當局(第15條),
而非決定台灣的領土屬於誰?
因為美國是佔領國,
佔領不能移轉主權,
怎麼可以決定台灣的主權是誰?
邏輯不通.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/57/164/case.html
The President might have dissolved it by withdrawing the army and navy
officers who administered it, but he did not do so. Congress could have put
an end to it, but that was not done. The right inference from the inaction of both is that it
was meant to be continued until it had been legislatively changed.
總統可以中止它(佔領該地))藉由撤退管理它的陸軍與海軍軍官,但他沒有這麼做.國會可
以將它終結,但那樣並沒有被這麼做.這樣的權利從兩者的不作為推斷它意指持續到合法的
改變為止.
※ 編輯: bomberhack (118.165.145.117), 10/17/2014 21:36:53
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