Re: [情報] Barbosa和Diaw可能會被交易到尼克!?

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RealGM 也有差不多的消息. 我把原文貼過來. One of the first plays Mike D'Antoni is expected to draw up as the Knicks' new coach is for Stephon Marbury to run up the Garden floor ... and out the door back to Phoenix to rejoin the Suns. Once D'Antoni is formally named to succeed Isiah Thomas, he is expected to try to make a push for two of his favorite Suns - forward Boris Diaw and guard Leandro Barbosa, who reportedly have fallen out of favor with Suns management. According to a person close to D'Antoni, one of his first moves would be to get the Knicks to offer Marbury and his expiring $22 million contract as a central part of the deal. Because of the Suns players mentioned in this scenario, no one will be surprised if D'Antoni starts lobbying Donnie Walsh today to call Phoenix president Steve Kerr to begin trade talks. "He loves Boris and Barbosa and he didn't like Marbury when he had him," said the source. "So this is the type of move that can jump-start D'Antoni's program right off the bat. He went to New York with the notion that he will have input and help alter the roster to get his kind of players." Although Marbury played only a handful of games for D'Antoni before coming to New York in January 2004, after two-plus seasons in Phoenix, D'Antoni doesn't view Marbury as a winning player or someone he thinks can play point guard in his system. "D'Antoni and Marbury is going to be a bad fit," the source predicted. "He views Marbury as a shooting guard, anyway." Suns owner Robert Sarver reportedly is looking to get out from under Diaw's contract that averages $9 million over the next four seasons. Barbosa, the 2007 Sixth Man Award winner, makes an average of $7 million over the next four seasons. For cap purposes, they make a combined $15 million, so it can't be a two-for-one. There would have to be another player or two coming from Phoenix to make the deal work. Why would Marbury be attractive, coming off ankle surgery and an awful season? Sarver and the Suns could take his money off the books in July 2009, leading to future cap flexibility. And with D'Antoni gone, they're also going to want to revamp their roster to fit Kerr's vision. In the meantime, Kerr still has Steve Nash, Amare Stoudemire and the human cap-killer, Shaquille O'Neal. Other than those three, Kerr is apt to start dealing off players who only help in D'Antoni's system. The Knicks will be thrilled to get rid of Marbury, given all the losing and controversy he has been a part of. If they can trade him for players who have performed for D'Antoni, it's a win-win - unless Walsh is still making grandiose plans to free up significant cap space for the summer of 2010. Right now, he has very little space. But such a deal could derail those dreams, depending on who's left standing on the Knicks' roster in two summers. At present, the Knicks will have $48 million on the books when LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Paul lead the NBA's best free-agent class in years. Obviously, the cap isn't going to increase much from its current figure of $56 million, so Walsh has to be careful what he adds to the Knicks' payroll (future first-round draft picks plus any mid-level free-agent signings). Diaw's and Barbosa's contracts run through 2012. D'Antoni is going to have lots of clout in selecting personnel - he should, too, since he knows what kind of players he needs better than anybody else - so the whole idea of getting into a cap-friendly situation could go by the boards. How will that make Walsh look, after he came into town talking about trying to land a marquee player in 2010? Just know that D'Antoni is about winning his way, doing it now and he probably isn't keen on waiting to see if Walsh can maneuver his way to cap freedom after two more seasons. But Walsh could overrule him and insist on going the free-agent route. "D'Antoni's system is built for guys like Boris and Barbosa," the source said. "They can make plays. That's what he looks for in players: Versatility and the ability to score." Which Knicks fit that description? Jamal Crawford. Maybe Nate Robinson. In other words, nobody of any consequence. So the big cleanup could start with Marbury, soon enough. And not a moment too soon. 原文蠻容易懂的.我中文造詣不好.就不便翻譯了. 坦白說我喜歡的太陽隊多年來一直不包括教練,所以我對冷笑話沒甚麼感情. 批評他我可能也不會手軟. 這個主意真是個一廂情願的想法. D'Antoni就算很賭爛 Sarver 跟 Kerr 也不用以為人家是白癡.雖然他們很接近了. D'Antoni 的系統必須有 Barbosa 與 Diaw? Barbosa 我不敢說 .. Diaw 這兩年打得跟夢遊一樣. D'Antoni 難道不用負責任? 憑甚麼 Diaw 去到尼克就會回到 05-06? 因為尼克沒有 Amare 與 Marion 佔位置? 還是因為尼克蜀中無大將? 沒有 Nash 在場上. Barbosa 跟 Diaw 又能打得多好? 尼克有 Nash 嗎? 站在太陽球迷立場. 甩掉 Diaw 一年九百萬的長期合約我舉雙手雙腳連同命根子贊成. 要 Barbosa 一起打包我也沒意見. 但換來只有一年合約的 Marbury 是啥意思? 太陽隊直接放棄 08-09 球季重建嗎? 只剩一年近 2100 萬的 Marbury 是準備重建的球隊最喜歡的合約. 太陽還有 O'neal 到 2010 的合約. 就算要提前重建也是等明年暑假的事. 況且太陽隊要 Marbury 幹嘛? 打爆 Parker、CP3、D-Will 嗎? 做得到嗎? 就算要跟你尼克交易. 也是 Diaw、Barbosa <---> Eddy Curry、Crawford 我們就吃點虧收這兩個黑洞.然後讓 Amare 以外的球員.全部在 2010 年合約結束。 Curry 的合約 2010 球隊有選擇權. Crawford 到 2011.所以尼克你就補償我們再加個 Lee 怎麼樣? 否則 Diaw 與 Barbosa 我們可以在未來的ㄧ兩年慢慢尋求交易. 何需急於一時跟尼克換 Marbury? 再者多金如尼克. 明年暑假就可以擺脫一張逾兩千萬的合約. 讓球隊逐漸正常化. 怎會現在想收進兩張還有四年.總計一年 1500 萬以上的合約. 怎麼思考也不通. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.120.154.114

05/14 06:58, , 1F
應該是冷笑話一湘情願吧 等他先拿出對等的價碼在說
05/14 06:58, 1F

05/14 07:13, , 2F
diaw自己也能打吧...不覺得它的數據有特別依賴nash
05/14 07:13, 2F

05/14 07:14, , 3F
冷笑話真的只能當教練 ...
05/14 07:14, 3F
※ 編輯: highmimi 來自: 59.120.154.114 (05/14 07:20) ※ 編輯: highmimi 來自: 59.120.154.114 (05/14 07:23)

05/14 07:38, , 4F
尼克不會有對等的價碼.整隊只剩Marbury那張到期合約
05/14 07:38, 4F

05/14 07:40, , 5F
有點交易價值.總不可能交易 Lee 吧 ..
05/14 07:40, 5F

05/14 07:48, , 6F
剛MSN在紐約的朋友說有紐約運動評論員提議用 Marbury
05/14 07:48, 6F

05/14 07:49, , 7F
加今年尼克第一輪樂透選秀換Diaw+Barbosa ..
05/14 07:49, 7F

05/14 07:49, , 8F
真搞不懂這評論員到底是尼克迷還是太陽迷 ..
05/14 07:49, 8F

05/14 07:55, , 9F
今年尼克也沒有選秀權 他們已經交易掉了吧?
05/14 07:55, 9F

05/14 12:35, , 10F
交易Lee紐約會暴動吧 紐約客籃球迷唯一的支柱了
05/14 12:35, 10F

05/14 12:35, , 11F
這樣子交易的話 應該等於是直接宣告重建吧
05/14 12:35, 11F

05/14 12:55, , 12F
同意原PI論點.這是冷笑話一廂情願的說法..
05/14 12:55, 12F

05/14 12:56, , 13F
打錯字..PO 樓上版主準備代表抽狀元籤了嗎..XD
05/14 12:56, 13F

05/14 13:03, , 14F
嗯,事實上沒有Nash,Diaw是可以打的很好(拍拍)
05/14 13:03, 14F

05/14 13:23, , 15F
收了2010年就別肖想LBJ了
05/14 13:23, 15F

05/14 14:32, , 16F
如果換了 我就不支持太陽了!拿兩個年輕的換一個老的
05/14 14:32, 16F

05/14 14:32, , 17F
我連玩NBA Live 都不會這樣做 到底在想什麼呢!!
05/14 14:32, 17F

05/14 14:33, , 18F
有點氣憤!!冷笑話一定是想說尼克陣容太差了,他怕帶
05/14 14:33, 18F

05/14 14:34, , 19F
不好,有損自己聲譽所以才想把太陽的兩個未來主力送去
05/14 14:34, 19F

05/14 15:02, , 20F
事實上,就算沒收尼克2010年也沒有薪資空間簽LBJ
05/14 15:02, 20F

05/14 15:06, , 21F
另外今年太陽不也是兩個年輕的換一個老的嗎
05/14 15:06, 21F

05/14 15:35, , 22F
也不算年輕的吧!香妹和銀行大概都30出頭的全盛時期
05/14 15:35, 22F

05/14 15:36, , 23F
屌爺和小巴還不到30歲大有前途阿我想知道換個馬大少
05/14 15:36, 23F

05/14 15:36, , 24F
跟Nash卡位置,然後太陽重要的兩個替補都沒了有何意義
05/14 15:36, 24F

05/14 15:40, , 25F
如果真的要薪資空間的話 寧願在原陣容拼一年
05/14 15:40, 25F

05/14 15:40, , 26F
這樣對Nash也有交代,等大歐Nash退休就有3千萬的薪資
05/14 15:40, 26F

05/15 22:02, , 27F
小看DIAW了
05/15 22:02, 27F

05/15 23:12, , 28F
樓上高估Diaw了 ..
05/15 23:12, 28F

12/12 16:39, 5年前 , 29F
跟Nash卡位置,然後 https://noxiv.com
12/12 16:39, 29F

04/20 22:14, 5年前 , 30F
如果換了 我就不支持太 https://moxox.com
04/20 22:14, 30F
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