[情報] AMD宣布B450 X470將支援Zen 3

看板PC_Shopping作者 (魔莉肯)時間4年前 (2020/05/19 22:06), 4年前編輯推噓92(98638)
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原文:https://bit.ly/3bKRiP5 As we head into our upcoming “Zen 3” architecture, there are considerable technical challenges that face a CPU socket as long-lived as AMD Socket AM4. For example, we recently announced that we would not support “Zen 3” on AMD 400 Series motherboards due to serious constraints in SPI ROM capacities in most of the AMD 400 Series motherboards. This is not the first time a technical hurdle has come up with Socket AM4 given the longevity of this socket, but it is the first time our enthusiasts have faced such a hurdle. 當提到我們的Zen 3技術,不免會對長命的AM4腳位產生一些技術上的問題。 我們最近宣布400系列主機板將不支援Zen 3的原因是因為400系列對於SPI ROM容量的 強力限制 以他的長壽程度來看,這並不是AM4腳位遇到的第一個技術障礙 但這卻是我們的粉絲第一次遇到了這種障礙 Over the past week, we closely reviewed your feedback on that news: we watched every video, read every comment and saw every Tweet. We hear that many of you hoped for a longer upgrade path. We hear your hope that AMD B450 and X470 chipsets would carry you into the “Zen 3” era. 在這一整個禮拜,我們仔細的閱讀了你們的回覆 我們看了每支影片 看了每個comment也讀了每一則tweet 我們聽到了多數人的需求 也就是延長更新 我們聽到了你們想要B450和X470 帶領你們進入Zen 3世代 Our experience has been that large-scale BIOS upgrades can be difficult and confusing especially as processors come on and off the support lists. As the community of Socket AM4 customers has grown over the past three years, our intention was to take a path forward that provides the safest upgrade experience for the largest number of users. However, we hear you loud and clear when you tell us you would like to see B450 or X470 boards extended to the next generation “Zen 3” products. 經驗告訴我們,大尺度的更新BIOS將會是一個很困難且複雜的挑戰 尤其是新的CPU在舊的板子上的支援 隨著AM4的使用者在這三年來的大幅上升 我們原本的計畫是讓這代退休 好讓最多人能享受最安全的升級 但我們聽見你的聲音告訴我們你想要讓B450和X470延長到下個世代 """""""ZEN 3""""""""" As the team weighed your feedback against the technical challenges we face, we decided to change course. As a result, we will enable an upgrade path for B450 and X470 customers that adds support for next-gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors with the “Zen 3” architecture. This decision is very fresh, but here is a first look at how the upgrade path is expected to work for customers of these motherboards. 大意就是我們知道了啦幹 會支援啦 這樣 1.We will develop and enable our motherboard partners with the code to support “Zen 3”-based processors in select beta BIOSes for AMD B450 and X470 motherboards. 2.These optional BIOS updates will disable support for many existing AMD Ryzen ™ Desktop Processor models to make the necessary ROM space available. 3.The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen Processors with “Zen 3,” coming later this year. Flashing back to an older BIOS version will not be supported. 4.To reduce the potential for confusion, our intent is to offer BIOS download only to verified customers of 400 Series motherboards who have purchased a new desktop processor with “Zen 3” inside. This will help us ensure that customers have a bootable processor on-hand after the BIOS flash, minimizing the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation. 5.Timing and availability of the BIOS updates will vary and may not immediately coincide with the availability of the first “Zen 3”-based processors. 6.This is the final pathway AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards to add new CPU support. CPU releases beyond “Zen 3” will require a newer motherboard. 7.AMD continues to recommend that customers choose an AMD 500 Series motherboard for the best performance and features with our new CPUs. 因為我不太專業 就請各位看原文 抱歉 There are still many details to iron out, but we’ve already started the necessary planning. As we get closer to the launch of this upgrade path, you should expect another blog just like this to provide the remaining details and a walkthrough of the specific process. 儘管還有很多細節要處理 但是我們已經開始計畫了 At CES 2017, AMD made a commitment: we would support AMD Socket AM4 until 2020. We’ve spent the next three years working very hard to fulfill that promise across four architectures, plus pioneering use of new technologies like chiplets and PCIe® Gen 4. Thanks to your feedback, we are now set to bring “Zen 3” to the AMD 400 Series chipsets. We’re grateful for your passion and support of AMD’s products and technologies. 我們曾經承諾AM4會活到2020 我們花了三年滿足這個承諾 bla bla bla 謝謝各位的回覆 我們已經確定Zen 3會在400系列的板子上支援 我們很感謝各位的熱情與支持AMD的產品跟技術 We’ll talk again soon. 改天再聊 我記得有鄉民猜對了 馬上改口支援 好香啊 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.72.183.168 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1589897210.A.61A.html

05/19 22:08, 4年前 , 1F
香,之後可以來上4950X了
05/19 22:08, 1F

05/19 22:08, 4年前 , 2F
不是說bios不夠用 又好了嗎
05/19 22:08, 2F

05/19 22:09, 4年前 , 3F
05/19 22:09, 3F

05/19 22:10, 4年前 , 4F
白海豚?
05/19 22:10, 4F

05/19 22:10, 4年前 , 5F
很會轉彎==嘻嘻是說這次會不會再提供CPU來讓人升級
05/19 22:10, 5F

05/19 22:10, 4年前 , 6F
太香了
05/19 22:10, 6F

05/19 22:10, 4年前 , 7F
BIOS呢?
05/19 22:10, 7F

05/19 22:12, 4年前 , 8F
反觀
05/19 22:12, 8F

05/19 22:13, 4年前 , 9F
更新後會刪掉舊款 CPU 的支援
05/19 22:13, 9F

05/19 22:13, 4年前 , 10F
轉彎歸轉彎,還是比硬幹好多了
05/19 22:13, 10F
※ 編輯: MorikonHase (163.25.119.77 臺灣), 05/19/2020 22:36:44

05/19 22:14, 4年前 , 11F
不好意思不太懂,這兩款型號主機板不是是本來就有支
05/19 22:14, 11F

05/19 22:14, 4年前 , 12F
援嗎?
05/19 22:14, 12F

05/19 22:14, 4年前 , 13F
本來沒有要支援 只有500系列支援而已
05/19 22:14, 13F

05/19 22:14, 4年前 , 14F
good. 我的B450i不用賣了
05/19 22:14, 14F

05/19 22:15, 4年前 , 15F

05/19 22:15, 4年前 , 16F
i家表示:還讓不讓活....
05/19 22:15, 16F

05/19 22:16, 4年前 , 17F
反正怎麼做都會出問題 看AMD覺得哪個好處理
05/19 22:16, 17F

05/19 22:16, 4年前 , 18F
之後推出的桌上型4000系列才是zen3
05/19 22:16, 18F

05/19 22:16, 4年前 , 19F
現在的3000系列是zen2
05/19 22:16, 19F

05/19 22:19, 4年前 , 20F
原來我誤會了,我以為現在3系列就是zen3
05/19 22:19, 20F

05/19 22:20, 4年前 , 21F
這樣就對了
05/19 22:20, 21F

05/19 22:20, 4年前 , 22F
買C7H特價的爽到
05/19 22:20, 22F

05/19 22:20, 4年前 , 23F
723的B450可以繼續用了嘻嘻
05/19 22:20, 23F

05/19 22:21, 4年前 , 24F
不是說BIOS容量不夠 難不成bios介面要改成黑白嗎 XD
05/19 22:21, 24F

05/19 22:21, 4年前 , 25F
723難得説人話欸
05/19 22:21, 25F

05/19 22:22, 4年前 , 26F
就停止支援舊的 CPU 來空出空間啊
05/19 22:22, 26F

05/19 22:22, 4年前 , 27F
4000系列桌機用APU快出!!
05/19 22:22, 27F

05/19 22:23, 4年前 , 28F
又香了 cc
05/19 22:23, 28F

05/19 22:23, 4年前 , 29F
沒有A320 隆仔不開心
05/19 22:23, 29F

05/19 22:23, 4年前 , 30F
對照 x570 的話,應該就 1000 系列不支援了吧
05/19 22:23, 30F

05/19 22:25, 4年前 , 31F
附帶說明一下 4000G APU 還是 zen2 哦
05/19 22:25, 31F

05/19 22:25, 4年前 , 32F
X370敲碗
05/19 22:25, 32F

05/19 22:25, 4年前 , 33F
要沒內顯的那批才會是 zen3
05/19 22:25, 33F

05/19 22:27, 4年前 , 34F
723推了!這麼開心!?
05/19 22:27, 34F

05/19 22:27, 4年前 , 35F
C7H看起來靠32MB的bios可以一次支援1~4代全部的RYZE
05/19 22:27, 35F

05/19 22:27, 4年前 , 36F
N CPU了
05/19 22:27, 36F

05/19 22:28, 4年前 , 37F
再買c6h阿 (X
05/19 22:28, 37F

05/19 22:29, 4年前 , 38F
搞不好可以看到以前的藍白bios
05/19 22:29, 38F
還有 64 則推文
還有 1 段內文
05/20 01:20, 4年前 , 103F
723去健身版 練好身子要打臉各位了
05/20 01:20, 103F

05/20 01:39, 4年前 , 104F
推 WARgame723 : 這樣就對了
05/20 01:39, 104F

05/20 01:40, 4年前 , 105F
C7H延命 3900X要掰了嗎
05/20 01:40, 105F

05/20 01:41, 4年前 , 106F
C6H下台一鞠躬 坐等2990的C7H
05/20 01:41, 106F

05/20 01:51, 4年前 , 107F
感覺林董的肝要炸掉了
05/20 01:51, 107F

05/20 01:51, 4年前 , 108F
反觀
05/20 01:51, 108F

05/20 01:54, 4年前 , 109F
我的天 有夠香
05/20 01:54, 109F

05/20 02:02, 4年前 , 110F
哈哈哈哈 有糖吃
05/20 02:02, 110F

05/20 02:39, 4年前 , 111F
真香
05/20 02:39, 111F

05/20 02:40, 4年前 , 112F
B450M-K準備好了
05/20 02:40, 112F

05/20 04:34, 4年前 , 113F
應該是b550一直難產,所以才出此下策吧..
05/20 04:34, 113F

05/20 06:06, 4年前 , 114F
Bios容量不夠出改版如何,如小星星的B450 XXX MAX
05/20 06:06, 114F

05/20 06:54, 4年前 , 115F
爽啊啊啊
05/20 06:54, 115F

05/20 07:40, 4年前 , 116F
真香
05/20 07:40, 116F

05/20 08:00, 4年前 , 117F
太香了
05/20 08:00, 117F

05/20 08:42, 4年前 , 118F
超爽,B450cp值真高
05/20 08:42, 118F

05/20 09:00, 4年前 , 119F
板廠:啊乾...
05/20 09:00, 119F

05/20 10:11, 4年前 , 120F
c6h很好啊,b450/x470升zen3就能撿二手3xxx用
05/20 10:11, 120F

05/20 10:40, 4年前 , 121F
爽撿2手3600
05/20 10:40, 121F

05/20 12:36, 4年前 , 122F
真香 果然轉彎了
05/20 12:36, 122F

05/20 13:00, 4年前 , 123F
真香 還好當初沒選C6H
05/20 13:00, 123F

05/20 13:21, 4年前 , 124F
723不演了嗎
05/20 13:21, 124F

05/20 13:50, 4年前 , 125F
低階b450放掉能理解 但高階X470不支援就...
05/20 13:50, 125F

05/20 13:58, 4年前 , 126F
C7H表示舒服
05/20 13:58, 126F

05/20 15:15, 4年前 , 127F
板上那幾個幫忙清c6h要加油囉 嘻嘻
05/20 15:15, 127F

05/20 16:02, 4年前 , 128F
x370也拜託
05/20 16:02, 128F

05/20 16:02, 4年前 , 129F
相容推
05/20 16:02, 129F

05/20 16:11, 4年前 , 130F
香 推一個
05/20 16:11, 130F

05/20 18:27, 4年前 , 131F
幹 還好我買B450
05/20 18:27, 131F

05/20 19:11, 4年前 , 132F
文中不就明講了 並不是所有 B450 X470 都會支援
05/20 19:11, 132F

05/20 19:12, 4年前 , 133F
但現階段無法得知到底是哪些會支援
05/20 19:12, 133F

05/21 08:41, 4年前 , 134F
723?????
05/21 08:41, 134F

05/21 14:52, 4年前 , 135F
就是死命硬撐 搞得四不像 新CPU用新平台
05/21 14:52, 135F

05/21 14:52, 4年前 , 136F
避免新舊交錯出問題 也避免BIOS支援過量CPU導致
05/21 14:52, 136F

05/21 14:52, 4年前 , 137F
資訊量爆炸難道不好嗎?
05/21 14:52, 137F

05/21 14:53, 4年前 , 138F
新主機板還要支援一堆舊U 結果BIOS塞一堆沒用的資料
05/21 14:53, 138F

05/21 14:53, 4年前 , 139F
r舊版子支援新U 結果BIOS容量不夠 哈哈
05/21 14:53, 139F

05/21 22:47, 4年前 , 140F
反觀i家一直換腳位
05/21 22:47, 140F

05/22 01:25, 4年前 , 141F
信AMD得永生
05/22 01:25, 141F

05/22 15:57, 4年前 , 142F
可是INTEL的CPU不繼承腳位繼承了很多漏洞
05/22 15:57, 142F
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