Re: [情報] Zen的新八卦

看板PC_Shopping作者 (Lovelive!)時間9年前 (2016/11/12 01:38), 9年前編輯推噓79(79推 0噓 139→)
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http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=276324&postcount=4139 新的八卦 這次好消息比較多 至於要信多少就看個人了 * All overclocking is done via Overdrive, you can't change any performance features at all in the BIOS (on to that next) at all. * BIOS or UEFI is actually built into the CPU, so only AMD can update the "BIOS" or microcode. All overclocking must take place within the Operating system * Right now it takes up to 30 minutes to clear the BIOS. If you remove the CPU and place it on another motherboard, it'll have the same settings applied as on the previous board. So debugging is a nightmare * 6850K SKU (May not be final designation) is wait for it.... $300 roughly. That's 8 Cores and 16 Threads * AMD's Hyper Threading is called SMU and it is ************ good. The same efficiency as Intel's HT. * Performance is really good, be it SuperPi, Cinebench, 3DMark etc, it's FPU performance is incredibly good and easily matching that of what Intel offers. * Current performance is staggering even though it is limited to 2133MHz (as mentioned before) and NorthBridge Frequency is limited to 2400MHz * There will be a nigher SKU than the 6850K, but it is a higher bin so it will certainly overclock better than 6850K and that may carry a premium price, but unlikely to be double. * There's plenty of excitement from all board vendors about the platform, so we will see how it all pans out. (Especially with the hot mess that INTEL has in store for us H2 2017, that we can leave to another thread) * For Gaming, the CPU is neck and neck with INTEL, even at low res where CPU bound. -- 主要是強調Zen的性能絕對能跟intel一戰 Bios那部份有點看不懂，求大神解釋 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 125.224.234.150 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1478885910.A.F0D.html ※ 編輯: KotoriCute (125.224.234.150), 11/12/2016 01:38:52
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bios直接寫在cpu裡面 超頻要在os環境下操作
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因為bios寫在cpu的關係 如果要換主機板的話要在30
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分鐘內完成插拔 不然會恢復原廠狀態
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11/12 01:42, , 4F
樓下教主
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11/12 01:42, , 5F
BIOS直接寫在CPU裡有什麼好處嗎？
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11/12 01:43, , 6F
八卦裡說是debug很麻煩是怎麼回事？
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我們覺得這樣很Coooooool
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11/12 01:47, , 8F
等出了再說，Zen都不知道炒多久了連個影子都沒看到
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11/12 01:51, , 9F
bios在CPU內 這個我蠻好奇的
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11/12 01:53, , 10F
應該是bios設定會保留至少30分鐘, 這對debug當然是
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惡夢,因為你恢復預設值至少半小時,以前很快放電就好
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11/12 01:56, , 12F
clear cmos變得要等30min的概念
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11/12 01:56, , 13F
終極目標是要soc化吧，功能越整合越多。
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11/12 02:00, , 14F
好事比較多 還是幫QQ一下 感覺有不好的預感
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8c16t 300$？ 有點殺
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6850K 300??????
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11/12 02:14, , 17F
bios刷壞了 就得換整顆CPU了嗎QQ
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ZEN好不好我不知道 我只知道老黃的NVDA漲翻惹QQ
11/12 02:14, 18F
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11/12 02:16, , 19F
可是現在AM4平台的bristol ridge這bios還是在板上吧
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所以現在的AM4板子可以相容未來的zen?!
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只能用overdrive的話windows以外用戶該死？
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重返榮耀不知道要喊到何時,老黃股一天衝28%,AMD Q_Q
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根據表示只有AMD能動BIOS,一般使用者沒辦法去動
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*根據這篇八卦表示 只有AMD能動BIOS而已
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痾...爆料參雜一些奇怪的東西好像也是合理的XDD
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11/12 02:27, , 26F
不過這樣一堆第三方晶片怎麼辦? 真的看不懂
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11/12 02:29, , 27F
有點傻眼的八卦!!
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11/12 02:31, , 28F
而且可以保存30mins CMOS的電力從哪裡來?
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tiny電容或是其他外星科技吧 繼續觀望
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11/12 02:35, , 30F
要綁板子賣?_?
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11/12 02:39, , 31F
感覺 這消息有點假~
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11/12 02:41, , 32F
自己要稍微過濾一下爆料阿，像前一篇講到的SOC desi
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gn和儲存config沒有直接關係...
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是存BIOS的Flash整合在SIP裡嗎？
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11/12 02:58, , 35F
可是信仰部分怎麼破除
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要爆料是無所謂啦 只是到時一定又會有把爆料都當成
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是AMD官方新聞稿的人..
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等正式發表吧 AMD再會做PPT 正式發表也會有一定依據
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頂多又來個480*2這種招數
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還有 139 則推文
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11/12 16:54, , 179F
怎麼會沒有CPU廠以外的人做南北橋 NV VIA SIS都做過
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AMD股價會井噴嗎QQ
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現在就是沒啊
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11/12 17:56, , 182F
不過C52、P123、YU76三寶連線的噴飯言論還滿有趣的
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+1
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11/12 18:27, , 184F
faintbreeze我很寶啊，你算老幾
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因為cpu廠商不開放授權了q q
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講的好像很行，不然請問哪個知名品牌不是這樣
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11/12 18:31, , 187F
我最喜歡你這種指名道姓明著幹
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那樓上應該很討厭我 嘻嘻
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要噴就來噴個夠，反正明天不用去公司
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討厭你幹嗎，想嘴的時候你都都會出現啊，感恩還來
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不及哩
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11/12 18:36, , 192F
你以為噴幾句我會天天出現開噴，有沒出場費
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11/12 18:39, , 193F
噴爽的，嘴這邊輸贏就純喇賽，又不會少塊肉
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好啦大伙 沒事兒~
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11/12 18:59, , 195F
說人三寶我記得會進桶沒錯吧，等等來去檢舉
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 在LAN PARTY看人崩潰 wwwwww
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哇lanparty哩，我不知道那是啥，能吃嗎
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說人三寶會被檢舉入桶？ 我跟你打賭不會XD
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不知道，反正檢舉出去了，等裁決
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我那行怎麼會看成說人三寶 這國文 幫QQ
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11/12 19:48, , 201F
沒差啊反正看板主認定阿.他說了算.今天還很長的
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11/12 21:48, , 202F
三寶連線跟黑色三連星有87%像
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三寶跟問人你算老幾應該差不多等級啦 XD
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11/12 21:51, , 204F
他那葛三寶連線看起來跟平常講的馬路三寶差很多八
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我那句不是三個寶貝蛋的簡稱嗎? 為啥會以為是啥
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馬路三寶 XD 玻璃真的易碎 小心輕放 QAQ
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是蠻易碎的阿.所以來吉一下.沒啥問題吧
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版主說ok那就三寶來三寶去而已.這也沒啥
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笑了 早說根本不會有事
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11/14 03:21, , 210F
原來預測一下 也叫三寶喔 haha obov沒有留意預測過
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11/14 03:23, , 211F
4:6 之類的嗎？ 我就是只單單對這句留意評論 市場
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預估錯誤 也被當寶了 呵呵
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更正一下啦 留言預測
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明年我講的成真 就看看誰是寶瞜 天王球都準備好了
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還有啊 小伙子 那麼愛指名道姓 難怪會被 id+賤人
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etc. 法律諮商是要付錢的喔 那種免費版 是不會有
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太大用處的 這種個性跟理解能力 亂蓋別人寶 難怪被
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騷擾 lol
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