[轉錄]Re: [閒聊]中興生化所的那篇Cell

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※ [本文轉錄自 nfsong 信箱] 作者: nfsong.bbs@ptt2.cc (nfsong.bbs@ptt2.cc) 標題: Re: [閒聊]中興生化所的那篇Cell 時間: Thu Nov 23 16:35:02 2006 作者: nfsong.bbs@ptt.cc (nfsong.bbs@ptt.cc) 標題: Re: [閒聊]中興生化所的那篇Cell 時間: Thu Nov 23 16:28:58 2006 作者: lnalna (lnalna) 看板: Biotech 標題: Re: [閒聊]中興生化所的那篇Cell 時間: Tue Nov 21 15:39:43 2006 其實大陸那個網站我們早就知道啦 但是一直都無法登陸 進去寫一些我們的想法 我們老闆曾經寫信給那邊的人 但是我一直沒看到他們把信po上去 我想就po在這裡給大家看 如果誰有辦法上那邊的站 可以幫我們po一下 附帶一點 這個實驗確實是有再現性的 以下為我們老闆寫的信 Dear KL, Thanks for the concern on our CELL paper. I still want to tell you that we are very confident with our data and the conclusions we have drawn for the CELL paper. I just don't know why some of you guys are so hostile and mean to us. Some of you guys are even very impolite. I don't know what is the problem with your ethic education in China. Maybe some of you guys are professional in handling photoshop to fabricate your own data. But we never thought of using this kind of trick to modify our data; it is also unnecessary for us to do this kind thing because we are faithful and sincere to our work. I must tell you guys that I have been working in sigma factor for about 18 years. We have already had the expertises to tackle a lot of problem in sigma studies. Do you think that only you guys are competent? The data that we showed on the CELL paper are done by my students; they have magic hands in handling footprinting and KMnO4-primer extension analyses. Moreover, the data are reproducible. Don't you think that we deserve a publication in CELL? Are you guys experts in this field? If not, how can you guys judge thing only with your shallow knowledge background and prejudice. If you are in this field, your actions on the web are disappointing. I feel pity on you guys. Don't be too proud and confident of yourselves. You never know what you don't know. If our data and conclusions are finally proved to be true. Then, what will be your responsibility for accusing us. Can I just call you scientific criminals because some of you guys deliberately twisted the truth. We welcome the constructive discussion but the atittudes of some of you guys are unacceptable. We don't need to provide any explanation to you guys. We welcome you to contact the CELL editor. Please just stop your meaningless dicussion on the web. 張邦彥 教授 中興大學生物化學研究所 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.120.131.12

11/21 15:46,
the atittudes of some of you guys are unacceptable....
11/21 15:46

11/21 15:46,
those guys just want others to know what they are....
11/21 15:46

11/21 15:56,
正在嘗試註冊...成功後馬上轉po
11/21 15:56

11/21 16:15,
已轉貼
11/21 16:15

11/21 16:30,
...一肚子火~~那些大陸狗根本就為反對而反對...
11/21 16:30

11/21 16:36,
誰來告訴我怎麼跟大陸那邊的"人"溝通阿?
11/21 16:36

11/21 16:40,
真開心看到支持的聲音了,謝謝ssuny的幫忙轉貼呀!!
11/21 16:40

11/21 16:44,
感謝幫忙轉貼,不過那裡的人本來就怪怪的,別理了,等cell回應
11/21 16:44

11/21 17:10,
看他們的文章覺得有點好笑...有時真的懷疑 這樣的國家
11/21 17:10

11/21 17:11,
到底是怎樣擠進前ㄧ百大的...比較這個板跟那個版 不難
11/21 17:11

11/21 17:12,
發現之中發文人的水準差異.....
11/21 17:12

11/21 17:41,
張教授看起來真的很生氣!
11/21 17:41

11/21 17:42,
話說回來,我找paper,若是看到China出的,一律不看
11/21 17:42

11/21 18:14,
金字塔頂端跟底部的水準差異本來就會差很多的...
11/21 18:14

11/21 18:15,
但是因為這類鳥事輕視對手不見得是好事...
11/21 18:15

11/21 18:16,
強者恆強弱者恆弱到哪裡都不會變阿...
11/21 18:16

11/21 18:17,
實力強這點不否認..但是人格方面我不敢苟同...
11/21 18:17

11/21 18:18,
大家等suplyment或editorial出來再說吧...
11/21 18:18

11/21 18:18,
我強烈懷疑那些大陸的討論區的人 一定不是大陸的菁英...
11/21 18:18

11/21 18:19,
hmm...XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
11/21 18:19

11/21 18:20,
人出名豬怕肥不是嗎...應該是瘦豬一條吧...囧
11/21 18:20

11/21 18:21,
翁啟惠不會每天去找別人data麻煩吧...
11/21 18:21

11/21 18:23,
別人別找他碴就好了吧...
11/21 18:23

11/21 20:03,
大陸的paper常常數據結果跟圖都很怪..
11/21 20:03

11/22 03:48,
不用註冊也可以看啊 我之前就在他們板上看到這封信了
11/22 03:48

11/22 03:48,
但他們只貼出第一段而已 後面那段罵人的沒看到
11/22 03:48
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