Re: [洋基] Just how good is Mark Teixeira?

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http://www.nomaas.org/ 12.27.2008 Just how good is Mark Teixeira? There has been a lot of dispute since Mark Teixeira agreed to terms with the Yankees about what type of player he really is. People like to downplay the signing by saying that he isn't "elite" or that his numbers come from a position (first base) where they aren’t anything special. Without even considering defensive contributions, we can use VORP to compare Tex offensively to other first baseman over the last two years. Remember, VORP is a counting stat, so we've included games played and VORP rate (VORPr) to help add more clarity. 自從鐵爺同意跟NYY簽下大合約之後引起了很多人關於鐵爺到底是什麼樣的球員 (編按：講白點就乾脆說人們懷疑他不值得拿這種大約)的爭論。大家總很喜歡輕描淡寫地放個大絕說「哎呀，這樣的打擊成績也還好嘛」或「他的產出是他在一壘手這個位置所創造出來的，以一壘手來講這沒什麼特別了不起啊」之類的。如果不考慮防守的貢獻，我們可以用VORP來比較過去兩年中，鐵爺以及全聯盟其它一壘手在攻擊上的表現。提醒一下，VORP是種累積數值，所以我們也同時用VORPr(VORP/球員出賽場數)這個比率，讓我們的比較效果更加清楚。出賽 VORP 場數 VORPr Pujols 170.7 306 .558 Texeira 118.3 289 .409 Berkman 115.2 312 .369 Fielder 109.7 317 .346 Pena 101.2 287 .353 Howard 90.0 306 .294 Youkilis 84.7 290 .292 Gonzalez 83.5 323 .258 Morneau 75.9 320 .237 So, in a group where offensive production is held to a higher standard, Teixeira is the second most valuable offensive player over the course of the last two full seasons. When adjusting for the number of games played, he separates himself even more. 在攻擊指數VORP的高段班中，我們可以看到鐵同學是過去兩年中排名全聯盟第2名的一壘手，如果絕對數值看不出他和後面幾名有什麼很大的差別，那將這些同學們的VORP除以他們的出賽次數，你就會發現他的表現和第3名去比就已經領先了一段更為清楚的差距。 Taking it a step further, over the same two-year period Teixeira has the 8th highest VORP total of any hitter in baseball. This should be especially amusing to those that claim he somehow isn’t worth his contract because he is a first baseman, since the numbers are adjusted for position. We’ll repeat that just to make certain that it’s clear: over the last two seasons, only Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, A-Rod, Chipper, Wright, Utley, and Holliday have been more productive offensively when adjusting for positional scarcity. 更進一步看，在過去兩年不管是跟任何位置的打者比較，鐵同學的VORP還是全聯盟第8高，這個結果對照前面那些「唉呀不過就因為他是個一壘手嘛、這成績一點都不特別不值得給這種大約」的言論來說，看起來實在是可笑得很。讓我們再強調一次，在過去2年內，全聯盟中，只有噗吼獅、小亨利、阿肉、CJ、Wright、 Utley還有Holliday這7位同學在VORP的產出上勝過鐵小弟。 If we look simply at offensive production with no regard for position, Teixeira is tied for the 4th highest OPS+ in all of baseball (151) over the last two years. Only Pujols, Chipper, and A-Rod are ahead of him, with Ortiz posting the same 151. If we take it back to a period of four years, he is still ranked extremely high, coming in at 11th highest. The beautiful thing here is that Teixeira has been trending upward, increasing his walk rate and decreasing his strikeouts. 如果我們更簡略地看、完全不看個人守備位置的影響，鐵同學(151)的OPS+還排得到全聯盟第4，而前三名是噗吼獅、CJ還有阿肉，老爹則和他同分。好吧，再更嚴格一點，看看過去四年的累積數據，他的排名也沒有比較難看，他還排在全聯盟第11名呢。從這邊可以發現一件最棒的事情就是鐵爺的成績曲線是往上走，他的被保送率上升、而三振在下降。 Having said all of this, can we please stop with the foolish idea that just because Teixeira isn’t the best at his position right now, he somehow isn’t a great, or possibly elite, offensive producer? Currently, the best at his position is a generational player. Mark Teixeira is not that type of producer, but it’s quite clear that he is among the best that MLB has to offer at the present time. 說了這麼多，我們可以停止那些愚蠢的、什麼「啊，因為鐵爺也不是啥最佳的一壘手，在這個前提之下他就不是什麼很偉大、也稱不上優秀的球員」之類的言論嗎？沒錯，在現在，一壘手這個位置上表現最棒的是那位不世出的天才打者，而鐵爺並不是噗吼獅那個層級的人，但從我們的分析上來看，很顯然地，他已經是那些想要爭取他加入的MLB球隊必須要給出這種大約的那群最棒的球員之一。 12.28.2008 Just how good is Mark Teixeira? Part II We showed you how valuable Mark Teixeira is offensively. He is a premiere hitter, no matter how a certain fanbase may be trying to spin it. However, for we Yankee fans who have been used to seeing Jason Giambi lumber his way around the bag, it would be useful to see how Teixeira fairs defensively as well. According to the Hardball Times' Revised Zone Rating, Teixeira converted 83.4% of balls hit in his zone into outs during 2008. That was second among qualified 1B, only behind Albert Pujols. Giambi in 2008? 67.9% Talk about a huge freakin' upgrade. 修正後的Zone Rating來看，鐵爺在守備上創造出局(83.4%)的比率排名所有一壘手第2名 (2008年)，一樣是只排在火星人噗吼獅之後。那NYY粉絲已經看了很習慣的大吉同學呢？嗯，他是67.9%。 -- http://www.nomaas.org/images/banner_signdunn.jpg