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Winners and losers of the 2022 NBA draft combine 2022年NBA聯合試訓的贏家與輸家 https://t.co/6UiDitWeax by Jonathan Givony and Mike Schmitz, May 24 2022 NBA teams and hopeful prospects assembled in Chicago last week for a packed six-day schedule of events, including the NBA draft combine, the G League Elite Camp and the NBA draft lottery -- as well as the related scrimmages, agency pro days, interviews, drills, measurements, athletic testing and much more that were part of the combine festivities. NBA球隊與希望無窮的潛力新秀們上週聚集在芝加哥,參加為期六天行程滿滿的活動,包括 了聯合試訓、G League菁英營與樂透抽籤。除此之外還有相關的訓練賽、經紀人舉辦的 pro day、採訪、訓練、靜態測量、體能測驗還有各式各樣的活動。 There was no shortage of drama as executives from all 30 teams congregated with agents, college coaches, trainers and media members at one central location. Conference finals were underway, general manager and coaching hires were conducted and the unofficial start of NBA free-agency negotiations was in full swing behind the scenes. (Some observers refer to this as tampering season.) 當全NBA三十支球隊的高層跟經紀人、大學教練、訓練師跟媒體都聚在同一個地方的時候, 流言與抓馬自然是層出不窮。分區總決賽正在熱烈開打,有些球隊還在找GM跟教練,這裡 同時也是非官方的NBA自由市場起跑線,檯面下的協商已經熱烈展開。(有些觀察者稱呼為 招募時間) The centerpiece of the occasion was the NBA combine, which wrapped up Sunday and saw several players either help or hurt their standings heading into the NBA draft at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn on June 23. Below is a look at our key observations from the week in the Windy City. Note that listed rankings refer to the most recent version of ESPN's NBA draft Top 100, updated on May 24. 造就這盛況的中心點就是NBA聯合試訓,在禮拜天告一段落的活動中,有些新秀成功拉抬了 自己的身價、也有人一路向下。以下是我們本週在風城的觀察報告,文中所引用的新秀排 名來自5/24更新的ESPN選秀百大排行。 Winners 贏家 Jabari Smith (Top 100: No. 2) and Chet Holmgren (Mock draft: No. 1) Tuesday's lottery removed one of the big questions from the 2022 NBA draft -- who is picking first? -- and cleared a path for Smith to make a short trip from Atlanta to join what's becoming one of the most interesting young rosters in the NBA in the Orlando Magic. While Magic executives have made it clear they will conduct a thorough process -- even extending beyond the widely believed top three prospects in Smith, Holmgren and Paolo Banchero -- most NBA teams firmly believe that's a formality and that Smith is all but assured to become the top pick. Smith, for his part, appears thrilled with that development. So is Holmgren over his looming marriage with the Oklahoma City Thunder, which is also the overwhelming expectation from NBA executives with whom we spoke at the draft combine. -- Givony 禮拜二的樂透抽籤揭曉了2022年NBA選秀的最大謎團 -- 哪隊拿到狀元籤?而抽籤的結果 為Jabari Smith清出了一條從亞特蘭大出發的短程旅途,加入目前NBA最有趣的年輕球隊 之一,奧蘭多魔術。儘管魔術高層表示他們會做全方位的調查,將包含Smith、Holmgren、 Paolo Banchero這大家共識的三巨頭以外的新秀。但多數的NBA球隊相信這只是走個形式, Smith已經幾乎鎖定狀元的位置了。以Smith的角度來說,他對事態的發展感到相當興奮。 所以Holmgren與雷霆結合的未來也變得越來越明確,這是與我們交換意見的NBA高層們壓 倒性的看法。 Dyson Daniels (Top 100: No. 6) Daniels continued his rapid ascent with an impressive showing at the Octagon Pro Day, where he displayed impressive shot-making prowess. Decision-makers from virtually every team in the NBA lottery were on hand to watch what appeared to be, in my view, the most eye-opening workout of the week in Chicago. NBA teams were buzzing afterward about Daniels' talent, throwing out comparisons to the likes of Tyrese Haliburton and Khris Middleton. 身價快速上漲的Daniels在Octagon舉辦的Pro Day中持續拿出好表現,他展現了令人印象深 刻的投射能力。幾乎樂透球隊中的所有決策者都參加了這場就我個人認為本週最令人大開 眼界的試訓。在此之後NBA球隊們都在討論著Daniels的天賦,並且把他拿來跟 Tyrese Haliburton與Khris Middleton做比較。 Daniels, an alumnus of the NBA Global Academy and G League Ignite program, has grown considerably in the past few years, adding 3 inches and 30 pounds of bulk. Even so, he appears nowhere close to reaching his physical potential with an outstanding frame and near 7-foot wingspan. The knowledge that Daniels has guard skills, with measurements that should allow him to moonlight at power forward as his frame fills out over time, is intriguing in today's NBA. The way teams rave about Daniels' interviews at the combine and the background intel they have received is clearly working in his favor. There's a real comfort level with what seems to be an extremely high floor for Daniels as a prospect, while the thought process regarding his ultimate ceiling appears to be evolving daily. -- Givony Daniels出身自NBA Global Academy跟G League Ignite計畫,在過去的幾年間有顯著的成 長,抽高3英吋、增重了30磅。而且他看來還沒完全發揮他的身體潛能,有著傑出的體格 與將近7呎的臂展。以目前已知的部分來看,Daniels有著後衛的技能包,以及身體發展起 來後有機會上扛到大前鋒的體測數據,對現代的NBA來說吸引力十足。試訓期間與球隊的訪 談所獲得的高度評價與背景調查的結果都對他極度有利。大家都對於Daniels已有的極高地 板感到十分的有信心,目前對於他天花板的看法每天都在不斷的改變。 Shaedon Sharpe (Top 100: No. 7) Sharpe's pro day drew a huge audience of decision-makers from virtually every team to watch a player very few NBA executives had seen live. Sharpe started the workout with a bang, demonstrating his impressive vertical explosiveness and near 7-foot wingspan with a series of highlight-reel-caliber finishes, before proceeding to knock down a variety of difficult pull-up jumpers and step-backs from all over the floor. Sharpe的pro day吸引了幾乎所有球隊的決策者,大家跑來看這位很少高層現場看過的新 秀。Sharpe用一連串的精彩灌籃做為開場,展現了他讓人印象深刻的垂直爆發力與將近 7呎的臂展,然後接著的是在球場的各個位置出手的多種高難度的pull-up跳投與後撤步。 The feedback from the workout was varied. Several teams in the top 10 said they were blown away by Sharpe's overall talent level, while others said they were hoping to see other parts of his game, namely his first step and spot-up shooting ability, as they still don't know enough about him to make an accurate evaluation for how his career might look. Teams in Sharpe's range will get a closer look at him in the coming weeks in private workouts, which should provide more clarity on exactly how ready he is to help a NBA team and where he can expect to hear his name called on draft night. -- Givony 這場試訓所獲得的回饋各不相同,好幾個在前十順位的球隊表示他們被Sharpe的天賦所震 懾了,但同時其他人則表示他們想看看他的其他表現,像是第一步以及定點跳投,因為 他們還是沒辦法對他的NBA生涯走向做出準確的評估。在Sharpe範圍內的球隊會在未來幾 週的私人試訓中對他做更近距離的檢視,好了解更多他有多NBA ready以及他可能會被選 上的位置。 Andrew Nembhard (Top 100: No. 35) Nembhard suffered a minor quad injury during the athletic testing portion of the NBA combine, which caused him to miss the opening game of the scrimmages, something that clearly disappointed him, judging by his dejected body language on the sideline. Nembhard refused to let the injury hold him back and elected to push through and play in the second game, something NBA teams said they appreciated considering he has a far more impressive body of work than the majority of players who decided to sit out. Nembhard proceeded to have one of the most productive NBA combine games in pre-draft camp history, posting 26 points and 11 assists. Nembhard在聯合試訓的動態測試中,四頭肌出現了小小的傷勢,讓他錯過了團體對抗賽的 開幕賽,從他在場邊沮喪的肢體語言中可以看出來這讓他十分的失望。Nembhard拒絕讓腿 傷拖累他,決定帶傷拚下去參加第二場比賽。這點讓NBA球隊們有所讚許,因為考量到他 的身體條件其實已經比一大堆故意不打團體賽的人好很多。Nembhard成功的打出了團體對 抗賽歷史中最亮眼的數據之一,拿下了26分11助攻。 Even more impressive than the line was the way Nembhard controlled the game from start to finish with his pace, handle and outstanding feel for the game, never looking sped up for an instant and making all the right reads and decisions while whipping the ball all over the floor off a live dribble, out of pick-and-roll with both hands. His 26 points felt effortless, as Nembhard never appeared to be forcing the issue, taking open shots that were presented to him and attacking the rim aggressively while showing a polished midrange and floater game. 比起數據更讓人印象深刻的是,Nembhard從頭到尾都靠自己的節奏、運球跟傑出的球感操 控著比賽。沒有亂提速並且做出了所有正確的閱讀與決策,左右手都可以在擋拆後保持運 球並供輸全場。他的26分拿的輕輕鬆鬆,沒有硬幹,空檔出現在自己身上的時候出手,在 積極進攻籃框的時候展現了經過磨練的中距離以及拋投。 The success experienced by similar-minded backup point guards, including Tyus Jones and Monte Morris, helps a player like Nembhard, but the fact that he measured 6-foot-4½ in shoes with the type of dimensions that multipositional NBA guards like Donte DiVincenzo, Grayson Allen and Alex Caruso possess should give him versatility to play in different lineup configurations. Nembhard leapfrogged over several players who elected to sit out the scrimmages with his strong play, and may ultimately get looks as high as the late first round on draft night. -- Givony 過往類似型態替補控衛的成功經驗,像是Tyus Jones跟Monte Morris,幫助了Nembhard的 身價。但除此之外他量出來6呎4.5吋的穿鞋身高,身體條件類似於某些NBA的多位置後衛, 像是Donte DiVicenzo、Grayson Allen跟Alex Caruso,讓他應該有能力在不同的上場組 合中有錯位的能力。Nembhard成功用他的精采表現超車了一些決定不打團體賽的人,最終 也許有機會在選秀夜摸到首輪後段的位置。 Jalen Williams (Top 100: No. 24) With the majority of top executives evaluating him live for the first time, the 21-year-old Santa Clara wing Williams made a strong impression with his play in Chicago, looking like a surefire first-round pick thanks to his combination of size, length, skill and two-way impact. Williams averaged 15 points, 4 rebounds and 1 assist in 24.1 minutes over two games while shooting 75% from the field. Playing predominantly on the ball at Santa Clara as one of the most efficient pick-and-roll creators in the NCAA, it was valuable to see Williams thrive in a variety of different roles alongside other collegiate stars. 在眾多的第一次看他現場打球的NBA高層面前,這位21歲的Santa Clara側翼用他的表現讓 他們留下了深刻印象。他的體格、長度、技巧與攻防兩端的影響力讓他看起來是個鐵定的 首輪新秀。Williams在兩場比賽中場均24.1分鐘,15分、4籃板、1助攻,而且有75%的投籃 命中率。在Santa Clara主要負責持球,而且是NCAA中最高效的擋拆創造者之一。看到 Williams在其他大學球星身邊負責不同的角色定位時還能有所表現這點十分有價值。 Given that Williams is unlikely to be handed the keys to a team at the NBA level, watching him add value as a screener, cutter, downhill driver off the catch and defender was a welcomed sight, especially when you couple that with his ambidextrous court vision and pace as a primary ball handler. Williams whipped the ball all over the floor with either hand, stretched out for a few poster dunks thanks to his 7-2 wingspan and 39-inch vertical, and played with good energy defensively. He turned down a few rhythm 3s before eventually turning the ball over and is still turning himself into a consistent shooter from beyond the arc (35% on his career), which is important, as he's not overly quick off the bounce. Williams more than proved his West Coast Conference production will have no problem translating to the NBA, and he deserves real consideration in the top 25 or so come June. -- Schmitz 因為Williams不太可能在NBA層級被當成核心對待,所以看到他能夠在掩護、空切、接球後 切入以及防守上發揮價值是很好的,特別是配上他擔任持球者時能左右開弓的球場視野與 節奏掌控。Williams雙手都能下球,靠著7呎2的臂展與39英吋的垂直彈跳打出了幾球精彩 灌籃,而且防守上有很好的能量。在把球失誤送掉以前拒絕了一些三分出手的機會,現在 還在努力讓自己成為穩定的外圍射手(生涯35%),這對他來說很重要,因為他的運球並不 算快。Williams證明了他在WCC繳出的表現要轉移到NBA並沒有問題,在6月的選秀上有機 會成為前25順位的考慮人選。 Dereon Seabron (Top 100: No. 57) Few players helped themselves in the NBA combine scrimmages as much as Seabron, who averaged 16 points, 5 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game on outstanding efficiency. Seabron's excellent size and length gives him intriguing potential as a big point guard, as he got virtually anywhere he wanted all combine long with his excellent first step, elusive handle and ability to change gears explosively, often dishing off unselfishly after collapsing the defense but also seeking out contact aggressively in the lane despite his thin frame. Seabron's perimeter shooting and inconsistent off-the-ball defense are still a major question mark, but that's something NBA teams may be willing to be patient with considering the way he moves at his size and the upside he displays as a big playmaker. -- Givony 很少球員能夠像Seabron一樣在NBA團體試訓的對抗賽中這樣提升自己的身價,高效率的拿 下場均16分5籃板2.5助攻。Seaborn傑出的身材與長度讓他有成為大號控衛的誘人潛力, 靠著優秀的第一步、難以捉摸的運球以及變速能力,在團體對抗賽中他幾乎是想去哪就去 哪,在防守內縮包夾時經常無私的分球,但也會積極的尋求製造碰撞的機會,儘管他現在 體格偏瘦。Seabron的外圍投射與不穩定的無球防守依然是個大問號,但考量到他在這size 下的移動能力、大號playermaker的天花板,NBA球隊們可能會有耐心培養他。 Terquavion Smith (Top 100: No. 22) Smith's appearance was one of the most highly anticipated of the NBA combine scrimmages, and Seabron's NC State teammate did not disappoint in his lone outing, making several scintillating plays offensively while also showing some of the things he needs to work on. The success of players including Anfernee Simons, Jordan Poole and Bones Hyland has every NBA team looking for explosive shot-makers in a similar mold. The 19-year-old Smith fits that profile well and made several plays at the combine to show off his potential as a bucket-getter, rising up fearlessly for deep, out-of-rhythm pull-up and step-back 3-pointers out of isolation, getting downhill with an excellent first step, changing speeds smoothly out of polished crossovers and showing nice creativity with the way he finishes in the lane. Terquavion Smith在團體對抗賽的亮相是眾多人關注的焦點,而這位Seabron的NC State隊 友並沒有讓大家失望,在進攻上打出了好幾個亮眼的play、同時也暴露了一些他需要努力 的地方。過往Anfernee Simons、Jordan Poole跟Bones Hyland的成功經驗,讓每個NBA球 隊都在尋找類似型態的具有爆發力的自走砲。19歲的Smith十分符合這些條件,在對抗賽的 時候展現了得分手的潛力:無畏的長距離出手、單打時無節奏的急停與後撤三分,切入時 優秀的第一步、流暢的變速、打磨過的crossover、終結時良好的創造力。 While Smith is not immune to taking questionable shots or getting out of control with his decision-making -- he needed 17 field goal attempts to score his 17 points -- he did show some flashes creating for teammates off a live dribble that bode well for his ability to develop his combo guard skills as he gains experience and the game slows down for him. That will be important considering he weighed in at just 165 pounds -- light even for a point guard -- and doesn't always bring the type of intensity you'd like to see defensively off the ball. Regardless, his youth, upside and scoring instincts appear to have placed Smith firmly in play for teams drafting in the first round, with plenty more to gain in private workouts over the next month. -- Givony 儘管Smith免不了投了些有問題的出手以及失控的決策 -- 他出手17次才拿到17分,他展現 了能在運球下幫隊友創造機會的亮點,所以只要累積足夠的經驗並熟悉比賽節奏之後,有 機會發展成雙能衛。目前只有165磅,就算是以控衛的標準來說都過輕,無球防守的強度 也需要加強。不論如何,他的年輕、上限跟得分直覺讓他穩穩的前進到了首輪名單之中, 在下個月的私人試訓中各隊會對他蒐集更多情報。 Karlo Matkovic (Top 100: No. 61) While NBA teams sometimes groan at the growing importance of pro days in the pre-draft process (although they never stop attending them), there is a certain type of prospect who can really benefit from the platform these workouts provide, especially when considering high-level decision-makers are always present en masse. Matkovic was one such prospect -- despite being ranked in ESPN's 2022 draft Top 100 all season, and being teammates with projected first-rounder Nikola Jovic, he wasn't taken very seriously as a legit draft option until an explosive showing in Chicago. Matkovic was one of the bounciest big men we saw all week on the pro day circuit, regularly putting his head on the rim and surprisingly showing a very natural stroke and impressive shot-making prowess considering he's attempted only six total 3s in his 137-game career, according to the DraftExpress database. 當NBA球隊們埋怨著pro day在選前流程中越來越吃重(儘管他們還是都參加了),有一種類 型的潛力新秀能夠確實地獲益於這些平台的試訓機會,特別是考量到高階的決策者們總是 會出現在這裡。Matkovic就是其中之一,儘管整季都被排在ESPN 2022年的選秀百大排行, 而且是預測的首輪新秀Nikola Jovic的隊友,他之前都並沒有被認真地看待為潛在的選秀 人選,直到他在芝加哥爆炸性的演出。Matkovic是在這整週的pro day中最跳的長人之一, 經常跳高到頭過框,並且在令人驚訝的展現了非常自然的手感以及投射能力,儘管在他137 場比賽的生涯中只出手過6次的三分。 Matkovic's energy on the floor was infectious, and it was clear that his American workout partners gravitated to him and were having a great deal of fun witnessing his introduction to the larger NBA world in Chicago. Matkovic's agency says it has quite a few workout requests following the pro day, more requests than available dates at this point. There's a much better chance of Matkovic hearing his name called on draft night now than existed last week, but he also has the ability to withdraw his name on June 13 and try to ride his momentum into an even more favorable position next year. -- Givony Matkovic在場上的能量是具備感染力的,明顯的他試訓的美國夥伴被他所吸引,開心地見 證了他在芝加哥面向NBA的自我介紹。Matkovic的經紀人表示在pro day後收到了比他們實 際能跑的場次還多的試訓邀請。跟上週比起來,Matkovic更有機會在選秀會上聽到他的名 字了,但他還是有權在6/13退出選秀,帶著這股聲量明年再來爭取更有利的位置。 Dalen Terry (Top 100: No. 23) Terry was one of the combine's biggest winners without even playing a 5-on-5 game. Officially just testing the waters, Terry is quickly emerging as a potential top-20 pick now that teams have had the opportunity to sit down with the charismatic, high-energy 19-year-old to learn more about him. League executives we spoke with consistently raved about Terry's interviews, citing his competitiveness, feel for the game and engaging personality. Terry是聯合試訓最大的贏家之一,儘管他沒打半場團體對抗賽。本來只是試試水溫,很快 的成為了潛在的選秀前20人選。球隊們有機會跟他坐下來面試之後,了解了更多這位19歲 的年輕人的人格特質與能量。我們聊過的聯盟高層都一致的對Terry的訪談讚譽有加,特別 提到了他的競爭心態、球感跟吸引人的人格特質。 Terry's intensity and infectious personality came to life during his pro day, further confirming the elite intangibles that evaluators who followed him closely raved about all season. There's surely another level Terry can reach as a player, as he averaged just 8.0 points in 27.5 minutes last season while connecting on just 28 3s in 37 games. But Terry isn't short on confidence, as he was sure to point out that he shot 47% from 3 over the last 10 games of the season when I mentioned the questions about his shooting. Although he lacks the most picturesque mechanics, Terry has already proved in workout settings that concerns about his shooting may indeed be overblown. Terry強悍與具感染力的的人格在他的pro day變得更加鮮明,進一步的確認了跟了他整季 的球探們所稱讚的這些無形特質。以球員來說Terry肯定是可以更上一層樓的,上季場均 27.5分鐘僅拿下8分,37場比賽中只投進了28顆三分球。但Terry並不缺乏自信,當我對他 提問了他的投射能力時,他很確信地提出了在賽季的最後10場比賽中他的三分球命中率是 47%。儘管沒有美如畫的投射機制,但Terry可能在試訓中消弭了一些對他投射的疑慮。 While he won't be drafted as a go-to scorer, Terry's combination of physical tools at 6-7, 195 pounds with a 7-1 wingspan, defensive versatility, passing ability and overall willingness to do the little things that impact winning could earn him looks even as high as the lottery, sharing some similarities to a smaller Scottie Barnes in terms of his all-around impact and approach to the game. -- Schmitz 儘管他不會被選來當關鍵時刻的得分手,Terry所擁有的6呎7吋的身高、195磅、7呎1吋的 臂展、換防能力、傳球能力跟願意做好贏球細節的心態讓他看起來最高有機會衝進樂透, 他對比賽全方位的影響力就像是一個小一號的Scottie Barnes。 Mark Williams (Top 100: No. 14) Williams' 9-foot-9 standing reach will officially make the Duke center the longest player in the NBA, and our historical measurement database, the moment he steps foot on the floor, edging out Mo Bamba (9-7.5), Rudy Gobert (9-7) and Boban Marjanovic (9-7). Williams' sheer reach immediately makes him a game-changer as both a lob-catcher and rim-protector, elements we saw all season in the ACC as he finished a remarkable 76% of his shots at the rim in the half court. Williams also ranks No. 3 among our top 100 in block percentage and fourth in offensive rebound percentage, regularly creating extra possessions with tap-outs thanks to his timing and length. On top of all that, the fact that Williams weighed in at 242 pounds despite having considerable room to fill out his frame (5.4% body fat) bodes well for the 20-year-old, as he's not the most physical big man out there. Expect Williams to generate significant interest throughout the lottery, potentially even leapfrogging fellow center Jalen Duren. -- Schmitz Mark Williams測出來9呎9吋的站立摸高,正式地讓這位Duke的中鋒只要踏上球場,就會成 為NBA中最長的球員,超越Mo Bamba(9呎7.5吋)、Rudy Gobert(9呎7吋)、Boban Marjanovic(9呎7吋)。Williams鶴立雞群的摸高讓他可以用空接跟護框影響比賽,他已經 在ACC的比賽中證明過這點,在半場陣地戰中有著傑出的76%投籃命中率。他在我們的百大 排行中有著排行第三的火鍋率、第四的進攻籃板率。靠著精準的timing跟長度,經常把球 撥出去創造額外的進攻球權。除此之外,儘管他不是這梯體能最好的長人,這位20歲的年 輕人目前已經有242磅的體重,而且他的體格仍有可觀的成長空間(5.4%的體脂率)。可以 預期Williams會吸引樂透球隊的興趣,甚至有機會超車同梯的中鋒Jalen Duren。 Losers 輸家 David Roddy (Top 100: No. 47) Touted as a potential first-round sleeper at different points of his junior season, Roddy was unable to back that up in two 5-on-5 games, averaging just 5 points, 3 rebounds and 1 assist per game while missing all six of his 3-point attempts. Roddy still had a positive impact on the game by sliding up and checking bigs on some possessions, attacking off the catch and making heady reads in the half court. But as Roddy struggled to knock down 3s, he started to turn down open looks and had issues finishing around the rim versus length (5-for-11 from 2). 在David Roddy的大三賽季的不同時間點他常被吹捧為潛在的低調首輪秀,但是在兩場5對5 的對抗賽中,他沒辦法為這些讚譽提供有力的支持,場均僅拿下5分3籃板1助攻,6次三分 出手盡墨。Roddy儘管還是對比賽有著正面的影響力,在某些球權上扛對位長人,半場中接 球後進攻並做出即時的閱讀。但他三分球的掙扎表現,讓他開始讓掉了空檔的出手機會, 而且在籃下面對到有長度的對手時無法有效終結(11投5中)。 While energetic on defense with strong athletic testing numbers, he proved he's much more effective in small spaces on that end than he is covering ground given his 261-pound frame. It shouldn't come as a huge surprise that Roddy had his ups and downs given the adjustment from the Mountain West Conference. In spite of those issues, Roddy was able to really shine in his pro day, showcasing his underrated leaping ability and shooting touch. He still has fans in NBA circles given his strength, agility and versatility, and will benefit from the success of players like Grant Williams in the NBA playoffs. But Roddy was unable to use the combine platform to emerge as a legitimate first-round candidate like I expected he might. -- Schmitz 儘管防守上能量十足,體能數據優秀,261磅重的他證明了在小一點的空間裡他的防守會 比到處跑的時候高效很多。從Mountain West Conference轉移過來的他會遇到挫折其實並 不意外。儘管有這些問題,Roddy還是在pro day的時候表現得不錯,展現了他被低估的彈 跳能力與投射手感。靠著他的力量、敏捷跟多功能性,在NBA的圈子裡他還是有一些粉絲, 也獲益於像是Grant Williams這類的球員在季後賽中的成功經驗。但Roddy並沒有像我 期待的那樣在聯合試訓的舞台上成為首輪身價的潛力新秀。 Leonard Miller (Top 100: No. 44) As the youngest player currently projected to be drafted, not turning 19 until late November, Miller's lack of experience was evident in his two games at the NBA combine, where he shot just 7-of-18 from the field and looked a step slow with his decision-making and off-ball awareness defensively. Miller is using the pre-draft process to learn what he needs to work on to become the high-level player his sky-high potential suggests, and he walked out of Chicago with a long list of things he'll have to improve on long-term. None of this should be a surprise considering Miller was a 6-5, non-shooting guard just a few years ago, before hitting a late growth spurt and blossoming into a five-star-caliber prospect as a high school senior. Unlikely to secure the first-round assurances he's seeking, Miller will now likely be picking between attending college at Arizona and spending a year in the G League Ignite program. -- Givony 身為有機會被選上的球員中最年輕的一位,11月底才會滿19歲的Miller缺乏經驗的問題在 他打的兩場團體對抗賽中展露無遺,總計18投7中,他的決策跟無球防守看起來都慢了一 拍。Miller正在利用選秀前的這段流程來了解,具備極高天花板的他需要加強哪些部分來 成為更高層級的球員,結果離開芝加哥的時候收到一個長長的待改進清單。基本上完全不 意外,因為幾年前Miller還只是個6呎5吋又沒有投籃能力的後衛,後來在高四的時候抽高 變成五星高中生。不太可能拿到他原本想收到的首輪保證,Miller現在比較需要考慮的是 要去Arizona大學打球還是去G League Ignite。 NBA teams A year after seeing a record six players propel themselves into the first round by competing in NBA combine scrimmages, teams were expecting agents to bet on players and try to solidify or improve their standing in Chicago. The opposite occurred, as a shocking 50 players elected to sit out the scrimmages or didn't make it to Chicago at all, a huge number considering only 58 players will hear their name called on June 23. With 16 players currently projected to be drafted who did indeed compete in the scrimmages, and at least a half-dozen others who had stock-boosting showings, there are bound to be a large number of players who end up going undrafted with a major bullet in their holster they elected not to use. 一年之前,6位球員在團體對抗賽中成功的把自己推進了首輪,本來球隊們預期經紀人們會 讓球員勇於下注,嘗試透過這些機會來拉抬自己的身價。結果完全相反,今年震驚的有50 位球員選擇跳過對抗賽或是根本不來芝加哥,明明選秀只有58個名額而已。目前有16個預 測會被選上的球員參加了團體對抗賽,另外其他至少有6個人成功的推進了自己的身價,肯 定會有很多人因為白白浪費掉這顆沒射出去的子彈而落選。 Most of those 50 players instead opted for the safety of the more controlled pro day setting, which sometimes resembled choreographed dance routines more than real basketball. NBA executives say they view pro days, of which 160 players will participate in 25 separate events, as a supplemental tool but not one that replaces competitive scrimmaging as an evaluation tool. In fairness to agencies, NBA teams have yet to consistently show they are willing to reward those who choose to play 5-on-5 rather than resting on their laurels. Teams also tend not to dismiss poor two-day showings by well-known prospects, which is a major reason this cat-and-mouse game exists. Private workouts usually end up being key, with the combine's main purpose the ability to obtain a huge batch of medicals and interview sessions with prospects. 這50位球員中的大多數都打安全牌,選擇了更好操控的pro day,比起真正的籃球比賽,這 更像是一齣精心編排過的舞蹈。NBA高層們說他們把總共160位球員參加、一共25場的 pro day視為額外的參考依據,但並不是一個能取代具有競爭性的團體對抗賽的評估工具。 說句公道話,NBA球隊目前還沒持續表現出樂意獎勵那些選擇打五對五的人的態度,球隊 們通常也不會因為兩天沒看到人就否決掉那些知名的潛力新秀,這也是為什麼這種貓抓老 鼠的遊戲還會存在著。所以私人試訓通常會成為關鍵,而聯合試訓的主要目的變成了蒐集 大量的醫療報告以及訪談。 While getting buy-in to live scrimmaging has been difficult, the NBA continues to innovate with the combine experience as a whole, which teams uniformly raved about in terms of the level of organization and detail that goes into every part of the week, aided by the spectacular setting of sparkling Wintrust Arena. The coaching staffs who were assembled, and especially the drills portion of the event (which spanned all of Wednesday and was coordinated by former Chicago Bulls head coach Jim Boylen) garnered quite a bit of praise for mixing in competitive action with gamelike situations that prospects will encounter in the NBA. -- Givony 儘管要大家來打團體對抗賽有困難,NBA仍然持續努力精進團體試訓的整體體驗,隊伍們 一致稱讚活動的流程與細節做的很好,舉辦地點Wintruct Arena的準備很完善。教練團們 是有經過組織的,由前公牛總教練Jim Boylen協調的訓練部分中加入了新秀們會在NBA遇 到的比賽情境,這點獲得了一些讚賞。 Other measurement takeaways 其他的量測數據看點 LSU's Tari Eason measured the widest hands at the combine at 11 inches (9.25 inches long), edging out Arizona center Christian Koloko at the event. Standing 6-foot-8, 217 pounds with a 7-2 wingspan, huge hands and an impressive frame, Eason shares some physical similarities to Kawhi Leonard, who came in at 6-7, 227 pounds with a 7-3 wingspan, and 9.75x11.25-inch hands. Leonard Miller came in with the third-largest hands at 10.5, with the 18-year-old ranking in the 95th percentile of our database. On the flip side, Hugo Besson and Scotty Pippen Jr. measured the smallest hands (by length) at 7.5 and 7.75, respectively. Even with the small hands, Pippen was everywhere on defense, wreaking havoc in the backcourt with his ball pressure while averaging 16 points and 4.5 assists over two games, looking like a young Jose Alvarado on some possessions. LSU的Tari Eason量出了聯合試訓最寬的手,寬達11吋(長9.25吋),超越了Arizona的中鋒 Christian Koloko。身高6呎8吋、217磅、臂展7呎2吋,一雙大手以及令人印象深刻的體 格,Eason有著與Kawhi Leonard相似的身體條件,Kawhi當初進NBA的體測數據是身高 6呎7吋、227磅、臂展7呎3吋,手的尺寸是9.75吋x11.25吋。Lenard Miller則是測出第三 大的手,10.5吋,這個18歲的年輕人在我們的資料庫中排行前95%。反過來看,Hugo Besson跟Scotty Pippen Jr.則量出了最小的手掌長度,分別是7.5吋與7.75吋。儘管有著 一雙小手,Pippen在防守端上無所不在,在後場對球毀天滅地的施壓,同時在兩場比賽中 場均16分4.5助攻,在某些回合中看起來就像是個年輕的Jose Alvarado。 The most unique physical profile in Chicago belonged to John Butler, who measured a massive 9-4 standing reach despite weighing just 174 pounds at 4.7% body fat. Few players in our database have the ratio between height and weight that Butler does, ranking him in the 99th percentile in that category among thousands of measurements. The fact that Butler registered just a 28.5-inch max vertical with such a narrow frame further adds to his unorthodox set of physical tools. Despite the narrow, thin frame, Butler did some interesting things in live action, shooting 39% from 3 while using his length and timing to block six shots in just 50 minutes. 在芝加哥測出來最獨特的身體條件非John Butler莫屬,測出了9呎4吋的站立摸高但卻僅 有174磅的體重與4.7%的體脂率。在我們的資料庫中很少有這樣的身高、體重比例,在所 有的量測數據中排名99%。再加上僅有28.5吋的彈跳高度跟狹窄的體格讓他的身體條件更 顯得獨樹一格。儘管體格狹窄、瘦小,Butler在實際比賽中拿出了有趣的表現,繳出了 39%的三分命中率,同時靠著他的長度與時機點把握在50分鐘內就送出了6個火鍋。 If Butler earned the title as most unique physical profile, David Roddy is a close second at 6-6 in shoes, 261 pounds (third heaviest) with a 6-11.5 wingspan and 11.6% body fat. Roddy's closest physical comparisons are Eric Paschall, Craig Smith and Zion Williamson. 若是Butler拿下了最獨特身體條件的冠軍,那麼David Roddy就是非常接近的第二名, 穿鞋6呎6吋的身高,261磅(全場第三重),6呎11.5吋的臂展以及11.6%的體脂率。Roddy最 接近的體格案例是Eric Paschall、Craig Smith與Zion Williamson。 The draft's biggest mystery, Shaedon Sharpe, measured 6-5.25 in shoes, 198 pounds with a 6-11.5 wingspan and 4.8% body fat, the first figures we have on the 18-year-old in our database. Sharpe's closest physical comparison according to our database is Hamidou Diallo. 選秀會最大的謎團Shaedon Sharpe,測出了穿鞋6呎5.25吋的身高、198磅、6呎11.5吋的 臂展以及4.8%的體脂率,我們資料庫所蒐集到的第一筆這位18歲球員的資料。在我們的資 料庫中與Sharpe的身體條件最接近的球員是Hamidou Diallo。 Nikola Jovic helped himself by coming in at 6-11, 223 pounds with a 7-0.25 wingspan and a 9-0.5 standing reach, which should allow him to function as a stretch forward, and even a small-ball, skilled 5 as he continues to grow into his frame. Jovic's closest physical comparison is Jan Vesely, who was similarly viewed as a combo forward during his draft process yet is now a lob-catching center for Fenerbahce in the Euroleague. Mike Muscala and Michael Porter Jr. are other physical comparisons who stand out. Nikola Jovic成功的拉抬了自己的身價,量出了6尺11吋的身高、223磅、7尺0.25吋的臂展 與9呎0.5吋的站立摸高,這些身體條件應該足以讓他成為延伸型前鋒,如果體格持續發展 的話甚至有機會成為技巧型的小球五號。與Jovic的身體條件最相似的是Jan Vesely,在 選秀時被視為是雙能鋒,現在在Euroleague的Fenerbache成為了打空接的中鋒。Mike Muscala跟Michael Porter Jr.也是類似身體條件的球員。 The 19-year-old wing Peyton Watson has added over 2 inches and 33 pounds in less than three years, measuring 6-8 in shoes and 203 pounds with a 7-0.5 wingspan. A few names with similar dimensions to Watson: Cam Reddish, Andrew Wiggins, Herbert Jones, and Isaac Bonga. 19歲的側翼Peyton Watson在不到三年內長高2吋並增加33磅,穿鞋6呎8吋、203磅與7呎 0.5吋的臂展。類似身體條件的球員:Cam Reddish、Andrew Wiggins、Herbert Jones與 Isaac Bonga。 Kofi Cockburn tipped the scales at 293 pounds with a powerful frame (8.2% body fat) to go along with a 7-4.25 wingspan. Should he make an NBA roster, that would make Cockburn one of the heaviest players in the NBA -- Boban Marjanovic weighed in at 293 pounds at 2009 EuroCamp. For comparison's sake, when DeMarcus Cousins weighed in at 292 pounds at the 2010 combine, he registered 16.4% body fat. Kofi Cockburn帶著一身強壯的體格(8.2%體脂率)強勢登場,293磅的體重配上7呎4.25吋的 臂展。如果他成功擠進NBA的球員名單,那他會成為目前NBA最重的球員之一 -- Boban Marjanovic過去在2009年的EuroCamp量出來的體重就是293磅。做為比較,DeMarcus Cousins在2010年的聯合試訓中,測出來的體重是292磅,體脂率16.4%。 Santa Clara's Jalen Williams registered the largest difference between height and wingspan at 6-4.5 barefoot with a 7-2.25 wingspan, just edging out Ron Harper Jr., who registered nearly identical measurements to Draymond Green. Although 2 inches shorter than Green at 6-5.5, they have the same wingspan (7-1.25) and standing reach (8-9) while Harper weighs four pounds more at 240. Harper had a solid showing in drills and live action, registering 11 points and 4 assists on day one, showcasing his shooting potential and vision. Santa Clara的Jalen Williams有著最高的身高臂展差,裸足6呎4.5吋、臂展7呎2.25吋, 超越了跟Draymond Green有幾乎相同量測結果的Ron Harper Jr.。儘管6呎5.5吋的Harper 比Green矮了兩吋,他們有相同的臂展(7呎1.5吋)跟站立摸高(8呎9吋),Harper的240磅還 多出了4磅。Harper在訓練與比賽的時候有扎實的表現,第一天得了11分4助攻,展練了投 射潛能與視野。 Justin Lewis also registered a huge height-to-wingspan difference at 6-6.25 inches barefoot with a 7-2.5 inch wingspan, comparing closest to OG Anunoby physically. Lastly, Trevion Williams was a wingspan winner at 6-7.25 barefoot with a 7-2.75 wingspan. Williams struggled in the athletic testing and weighed in at 265 pounds, but was still able to have a major impact in 5-on-5, proving he's far and away the best big-man passer in the draft with dimes from all over the floor while dominating the offensive glass. Williams solidified his stock as a second-round pick by averaging 9 points, 11.5 rebounds and 6.5 assists over two games. Justin Lewis的身高臂展差也相當大,裸足身高6呎6.25吋、臂展7呎2.5吋,身體條件與 OG Anunoby相似。最後的Trevion Williams是臂展的贏家,裸足6呎7.25吋、7呎2.75吋 的臂展。Williams在體能測試顯得掙扎,體重265磅,但還是在五對五的比賽中展現了很 好的影響力,證明了他是本選秀梯中傳球能力最好的長人,供輸全場的同時宰制了進攻籃 板。Williams在兩場比賽中,用場均9分、11.5籃板、6.5助攻的成績穩定了他二輪的身價 Speaking of big-bodied bigs, Kenneth Lofton Jr., weighed in at 280 pounds while standing 6-6.5 in shoes with a 6-11 wingspan, making his closest physical comparison Zion Williamson. Despite the lack of height and extra weight (15% body fat), Lofton earned a call-up from the G League Elite Camp and went for 13 points in 20 minutes while swiping 3 steals and blocking one shot in the lone combine game he played. He needs to improve his ability to guard in space, but his touch, instincts, improving shooting and overall aggressiveness at 19 years old makes him someone to monitor long-term. 談到長人,280磅重、穿鞋6呎6.5吋、臂展6呎11吋的的Kenneth Lofton Jr.,有著與 Zion Williams相似的身體條件。儘管不高又過重(15%體脂率),Lofton成功地從G League 菁英營升到聯合試訓,在團體賽上場20分鐘拿下13分、3抄截、1火鍋。他需要增進對空間 的防守能力,但他的手感、直覺、進步的投射能力與整體的侵略性以19歲的人來說,是值 得長期觀察的對象。 As expected, Kennedy Chandler measured just 5-11.5 inches barefoot, 172 pounds. But the elusive Tennessee guard registered a 6-5.25 wingspan and finished with the highest max vertical at 41.5 inches, just edging out former Sunrise Christian teammate Kendall Brown (41) and fellow Mokan Elite product Christian Braun (40). Meanwhile, Braun had some excellent moments in 5-on-5 play and is surely in the mix to hear his name called in the first round. 如預期的一般,Kennedy Chandler的裸足身高僅有5呎11.5吋,172磅。但是這位難以捉摸 的Tennessee後衛有著6呎5.25吋的臂展,以及本梯最高的41.5吋跳高,超越了他在Sunrise Chrstian的前隊友Kendall Brown(41吋)、Mokan Elite出身的Christian Braun(40吋)。同 時,Braun在五對五的時候打出了一些精彩的表現,可以說是鎖定了首輪的身價。 Viewed more as a "load jumper" who needs momentum to get off the floor based on the film, E.J. Liddell registered the highest no-step vertical at the combine at 35.5 inches, a huge figure for a 243-pounder with 12.2% body fat. Liddell comes from a long line of volleyball standouts. 過往根據影片的表現,E.J. Liddell被視為需要動能才能跳起來的"load jumper",在聯 合試訓測出了本梯最高的立定跳高35.5吋,對這位243磅,體脂12.2%的長人意義重大,根 本是打排球的。 Ryan Rollins measured one of the biggest wingspans among guards at 6-9.75 inches to go along with 6-3.25 in shoes and a light 179-pound frame. Rollins' closest physical comparison is Anfernee Simons. Rollins put his length and footwork to good use in the lone 5-on-5 game he played with a big tip-dunk, a huge block at the rim from the weak side that was somehow called for a foul, and smooth finishes around the rim. Rollins misfired on all three catch-and-shoot 3s and was caught upright on the ball defensively, but showed his talent as a midrange scorer and passer along with the impact his length can have defensively when he's locked in. -- Schmitz Ryan Rollins量出了本屆後衛最好的臂展6呎9.75吋,穿鞋6呎3.25吋配上有點瘦的179磅, 跟他最接近的身體條件是Anfernee Simons。Rollins在5對5的比賽中善用了他的長度與腳 步,從弱邊打出了一個關鍵的補籃跟一個不知道為什麼被吹了犯規的火鍋,籃下終結十分 流暢。Rollins三顆C&S的三分全部落空,防守上被逮到對球直來直往,但是展現了他中距 離與傳球的天分,只要夠專心的話就能做好防守。 -- 本篇作者之一的Mike Schmitz靠著長期對選秀的觀察與人脈,這梯選秀報導完就要去拓荒者當助理GM。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.223.250.253 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1653722330.A.830.html

05/28 15:22, 1月前 , 1F
推用心
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05/28 15:22, 1月前 , 2F
感謝翻譯 好文給推
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05/28 15:22, 1月前 , 3F
認真翻譯給推
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05/28 15:25, 1月前 , 4F
9呎9吋的摸高有夠扯,人高手更長
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05/28 15:25, 1月前 , 5F
用心推
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05/28 15:28, 1月前 , 8F
Kofi體脂率居然才8.2% XD 他也太強壯
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05/28 15:28, 1月前 , 9F
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05/28 15:28, 1月前 , 10F
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05/28 15:30, 1月前 , 11F
好文 但很怕Watson 往上衝啊XD
05/28 15:30, 11F
不看好耶,有夠raw

05/28 15:35, 1月前 , 12F
好文+1
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05/28 15:36, 1月前 , 13F
這樣看起來Vecenie跟Givony意見差距沒有很大
05/28 15:36, 13F
畢竟記者本身也算是個傳話筒,我的心得之一就是有人在透過記者偷酸pro day XD

05/28 15:37, 1月前 , 14F
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05/28 15:37, 1月前 , 15F
只差在Sharpe這個意見很兩極化的
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05/28 15:39, 1月前 , 16F
魔術的狀元最終都會去湖人...
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05/28 15:41, 1月前 , 17F
Leonard Miller被炒太兇了。打加拿大高中聯賽就想
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05/28 15:41, 1月前 , 18F
跳級NBA
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05/28 15:42, 1月前 , 19F
反正他沒損失啊 跳級一年回去再練回來也才19
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05/28 15:42, 1月前 , 20F
好文推
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05/28 15:43, 1月前 , 21F
現在選秀跟NCAA體制都比以前成熟很多 不用像以前一
05/28 15:43, 21F

05/28 15:43, 1月前 , 22F
好文給推
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05/28 15:43, 1月前 , 23F
樣參選就是賭一輩子了
05/28 15:43, 23F
近年確實不少進來試水溫後返校明年選秀大躍進的案例

05/28 15:47, 1月前 , 24F
好文推
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05/28 15:48, 1月前 , 25F
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05/28 15:52, 1月前 , 26F
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05/28 15:56, 1月前 , 27F
優文直得推爆
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05/28 15:58, 1月前 , 28F
滿想看Leonard Miller去905磨練後會長什麼樣子
05/28 15:58, 28F

05/28 15:59, 1月前 , 29F
天啊好詳細的翻譯,推推!
05/28 15:59, 29F

05/28 16:00, 1月前 , 30F
9尺9摸高真的很誇張,一開始還以為打錯字
05/28 16:00, 30F

05/28 16:09, 1月前 , 31F
有很多新秀真的看起來身價提升不少
05/28 16:09, 31F

05/28 16:10, 1月前 , 32F
推~ 另外翻譯內容 Scotten Pipper Jr. 有錯字
05/28 16:10, 32F
多謝,已修正

05/28 16:11, 1月前 , 33F
佩服 翻譯得很好 我這個用英文上班的都不如
05/28 16:11, 33F
不敢當,花不少時間慢慢修出來的 QQ

05/28 16:13, 1月前 , 34F
那這樣Mark Williams 衝擊前12的機率大增
05/28 16:13, 34F
還有 36 則推文
還有 4 段內文
05/28 17:21, 4周前 , 71F
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05/28 17:26, 4周前 , 72F
一般人資訊落後更多就是了 很多都還停留在高中畢業
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05/28 17:26, 4周前 , 73F
時的評價然後說XXX是誰 XXX怎麼那麼晚沒被選
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05/28 17:28, 4周前 , 74F
而且很多情報球隊都要藏 中後段要猜對本來就不簡單
05/28 17:28, 74F
畢竟mock draft牽一髮而動全身啊,中間只要一個人跑去別的位置後面就全亂了,而且還有交易的可能性

05/28 17:47, 4周前 , 75F
推翻譯
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05/28 17:54, 4周前 , 76F
感謝分享
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05/28 17:54, 4周前 , 77F
真的翻得很好 推
05/28 17:54, 77F

05/28 18:09, 4周前 , 78F
還是看好sharpe同型的新秀發展都不錯
05/28 18:09, 78F

05/28 18:36, 4周前 , 79F
推好文
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05/28 18:38, 4周前 , 80F
推好文
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05/28 18:49, 4周前 , 82F
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05/28 19:00, 4周前 , 83F
Dyson我覺得他還是很難衝到前五,大概落在中間樂透
05/28 19:00, 83F

05/28 19:00, 4周前 , 84F
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05/28 19:01, 4周前 , 85F
sharpe真心覺得以國王這養成滿怕養不起來,但偏偏他
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05/28 19:01, 4周前 , 86F
滿高機率可能會被國王選到
05/28 19:01, 86F
如果國王下一季的目標是重返季後賽,感覺去碰Sharpe的機率比較低

05/28 19:11, 4周前 , 87F
謝謝分享
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05/28 19:20, 4周前 , 88F
推用心
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05/28 19:47, 4周前 , 89F
體脂5.4%的長人是什麼概念
05/28 19:47, 89F
※ 編輯: lens82801 (61.223.250.253 臺灣), 05/28/2022 20:42:51

05/28 20:58, 4周前 , 90F
對 今年一堆那種評價就已經很爛的人卻不願意參加試
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05/28 20:58, 4周前 , 91F
訓或5v5 真的不知道在想什麼XDD 什麼曾凡博Hardy
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05/28 21:11, 4周前 , 92F
好文
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05/28 21:57, 4周前 , 93F
歐尼爾兒子有機會嗎
05/28 21:57, 93F

05/28 22:49, 4周前 , 94F
Shareef只有打G League菁英營,沒有被升到聯合試訓
05/28 22:49, 94F

05/28 23:03, 4周前 , 95F
推用心,感謝翻譯
05/28 23:03, 95F

05/28 23:57, 4周前 , 96F
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05/29 01:18, 4周前 , 97F
Mark Williams動態不好 就是高而已
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05/29 01:19, 4周前 , 98F
不參加試訓或全場比賽可能害怕身價變更差吧
05/29 01:19, 98F

05/29 02:24, 4周前 , 99F
感謝翻譯
05/29 02:24, 99F

05/29 09:19, 4周前 , 100F
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05/29 09:35, 4周前 , 101F
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05/29 12:32, 4周前 , 102F
期待拓荒者選秀,今年有三個籤
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05/29 15:19, 4周前 , 103F
看虎撲那邊歡天喜地,說曾凡博單獨試訓表現很好,
05/29 15:19, 103F

05/29 15:19, 4周前 , 104F
國王球探有去看,他們認為鐵定二輪必中,也不知道
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05/29 15:19, 4周前 , 105F
經紀公司安排的試訓對這些nba球團來說有多少參考價
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05/29 15:19, 4周前 , 106F
值?當然曾211公分三分球很好爆發力強,中國網友還
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05/29 15:19, 4周前 , 107F
蠻樂觀的預測可能首輪後段曾就能選上了
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