[外絮] 太陽老闆被指控(3)

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https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32440987/phoenix-suns-robert-sarver-allegations-racism-misogyny In Watson's first year leading the bench in Phoenix, Sarver asked about the state of the organization and where Watson thought it could improve. Watson told Sarver that it suffered from a lack of diversity. 當Watson 第一年執教太陽時,沙佛問Watson 對於團隊的概況與有什麼可以改善的。Watson告訴他,現在的太陽缺乏多樣性(指男女比例 、種族比例)/多元化 "I don't like diversity," Sarver replied, according to Watson and a basketball operations staffer with knowledge of the interaction. Watson跟另一位成員都說,沙佛回答他不喜歡多元化。 Sarver said to Watson that having a diverse staff made it hard for people to agree. A lack of diversity among the organization's highest ranks was an issue that a number of employees voiced to their superiors, including to Sarver, multiple employees said. "Everybody knows that our diversity here is s---," one current business employee said. 沙佛對Watson說,太多元化的成員容易讓決策很難一致。 幾位太陽成員用S_____ 來形容太陽的多元化程度 Through legal representation, the Suns said the organization "has a long history of prioritizing racial diversity since Mr. Sarver purchased an ownership interest in the team." The Suns also said that in 2020 they emphasized increasing diversity among the team's business leadership. The Suns said they have filled executive-level and VP-level positions across the organization with people from under-represented backgrounds, adding that the "Suns and Mercury employ Black people at more than three times the rate of their demographic representation in Maricopa County." They also pointed out that "six of their last 10 head coaches were Black, including the current head coach Monty Williams, and GM James Jones. These men were hired because they were the best applicants to fill their respective positions. 沙佛這邊透過法律顧問反擊,自從他買下球隊之後就一直很在意球隊的多元化。太陽額外表示他們在2020針對球隊的多元化做出了結構調整。並表示太陽雇用的非裔人口是當地人口比例的三倍之多。而過去的10位教頭有6位是非裔,包含現任教頭Monty , 更別說他們的GM JJ也是一位非裔。這些人之所以被聘用,是因為他們是各自職位的最佳人選。 (這邊有點隱射,除了選帥沒有白人優先之外,順便婊一下Watson被開除是因為爛而不是因為非裔) Watson said one of his final interactions with Sarver was explaining how Watson believed the owner's outbursts negatively affected every aspect of the franchise, from the players' performance on the court to the coaches' ability to do their jobs on the bench to the front office's ability to make sound basketball decisions to the way the Suns were officiated. Watson最後一次跟沙佛溝通,是告訴他老闆亂爆炸對整個球隊會有負面影響,不管是球員或是制服組,甚至是在場邊對教練或裁判有所質疑 During Sarver's tenure, the Suns have cycled through nine head coaches -- including seven in an eight-year span -- and eight general managers. 沙佛在這幾年總共換了9個教練與8個GM "I said, 'The only common denominator is you,'" Watson recalled. "'This cemetery runs deep of coaches, GMs, players. You're the only common thread. It's you.'" Watson said he told Sarver that he was toxic and that the Suns were toxic because of him. Sarver screamed back. "You're f---ing toxic!" Through his legal representation, Sarver said: "One of the reasons we parted ways with Mr. Watson was because of the toxic work environment under his leadership during his tenure as head coach. There was an incredible amount of conflict on the team between Mr. Watson and the front office. "I don't specifically remember using the quote referenced ... but during the conversation I did use colorful language, and did refer to Mr. Watson as toxic." Said general manager Jones, through Sarver's attorneys: "On multiple occasions, I observed Earl engage in behavior and use language that was extremely unprofessional and offensive. That does not align with who we are." Watson說,離開的球員、教練與職員他們經歷過的唯一共同點就是老闆沙佛 Watson說沙佛有毒,他在殘害太陽隊 沙佛尖叫著回嘴,「他X的有毒的是你」 沙佛藉由法律顧問表示,他們開除Watson的原因就是他擔任教練期間帶來的惡劣環境。 「我不記得那些引用的引用…,但我的確使用了色彩豐富的語言(髒話)並告訴Watson他有毒」 總經理JJ也透過法務,「我多次觀察到Watson的言行極其不專業且冒犯,這與我們的身份別不相符」 (這邊也婊了一下Watson, 他的低俗不能代表非裔) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.72.222.66 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1636941675.A.1A1.html

11/15 10:04, 2年前 , 1F
Watson是真的蠻爛的 但這和Sarver爛不衝突
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11/15 10:04, 2年前 , 2F
Watson 比較有問題吧。老闆問他球隊怎麼變強?他回
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11/15 10:04, 2年前 , 3F
答多元性?那個老闆會用這種覺青?
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11/15 10:05, 2年前 , 4F
馬斯克也不喜歡多元化而且嚴重沙文主義,一堆教徒
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11/15 10:05, 2年前 , 5F
還不是舔懶趴舔的爽吱吱
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11/15 10:05, 2年前 , 6F
目前看起來就是黑人bro想趁他形象差,看有沒有機會
11/15 10:05, 6F

11/15 10:05, 2年前 , 7F
幹掉他
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11/15 10:06, 2年前 , 8F
殺佛爛是公認的,每個太陽迷都說他很爛,慣老闆,
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11/15 10:06, 2年前 , 9F
但這跟這種指控啥關係?
11/15 10:06, 9F

11/15 10:06, 2年前 , 10F
比較多人覺得是太陽內部有股東希望趕走沙佛並取代他
11/15 10:06, 10F

11/15 10:06, 2年前 , 11F
指控好弱
11/15 10:06, 11F

11/15 10:06, 2年前 , 12F
感覺都是這個教頭在指控
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11/15 10:07, 2年前 , 13F
球隊要怎樣變強?屈臣氏:多元化 XD
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11/15 10:07, 2年前 , 14F
GM 教練都黑人 花生自己太爛
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11/15 10:07, 2年前 , 15F
球隊如何變強 多元性 是要請WNBA來打嗎
11/15 10:07, 15F

11/15 10:09, 2年前 , 16F
這些指控有辦法擊倒現金人 ……?
11/15 10:09, 16F

11/15 10:12, 2年前 , 17F
現金人是我基的
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11/15 10:12, 2年前 , 18F
喊著自己代表多元的通常只是想要特權罷了
11/15 10:12, 18F

11/15 10:13, 2年前 , 19F
這種對手... 殺佛看起來都像黃金佛殺了
11/15 10:13, 19F

11/15 10:13, 2年前 , 20F
這力道有夠弱 從頭到尾只有一個教練嘴 如果真是想
11/15 10:13, 20F

11/15 10:13, 2年前 , 21F
奪權 這手法弱成醬 上台我看太陽前景也....
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11/15 10:15, 2年前 , 22F
其實沙佛滿精明的 全部透過律師
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11/15 10:15, 2年前 , 23F
Waston好了啦,根本就只是什麼都想扯種族議題而已
11/15 10:15, 23F

11/15 10:17, 2年前 , 24F
超好笑 毫無證據的指控 反而沙佛還能搬數據反擊
11/15 10:17, 24F

11/15 10:19, 2年前 , 25F
沙佛爛基本上太陽迷絕大多數都會認同 但要他下台目
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11/15 10:19, 2年前 , 26F
前東西真的很難支持
11/15 10:19, 26F

11/15 10:19, 2年前 , 27F
球隊要照我的想法運作的慣老闆 vs 世界要照我的想法
11/15 10:19, 27F

11/15 10:19, 2年前 , 28F
運作的覺黑教練...
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11/15 10:19, 2年前 , 29F
沙佛用黑人的比例真的高
11/15 10:19, 29F

11/15 10:20, 2年前 , 30F
因為便宜吧(小聲
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11/15 10:21, 2年前 , 31F
連姆斯兄弟JJ都不挺 花生哭哭
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11/15 10:21, 2年前 , 32F
等等 你買球隊難道不希望球隊照你的想法運作喔?
11/15 10:21, 32F

11/15 10:22, 2年前 , 33F
推上面s大講的 給這種人上台 感覺前景更慘= =
11/15 10:22, 33F

11/15 10:22, 2年前 , 34F
人家是老闆 意思就是球隊是他養的 這樣也能說慣老闆
11/15 10:22, 34F

11/15 10:22, 2年前 , 35F
不是很怪嗎? 你可以說他就是愛自己跳下來玩
11/15 10:22, 35F

11/15 10:22, 2年前 , 36F
但是這和慣不慣好像沒關係呀
11/15 10:22, 36F

11/15 10:23, 2年前 , 37F
這看起來就是WATSON問題比較大
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11/15 10:24, 2年前 , 38F
這些指控根本是出來自取其辱的
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11/15 10:24, 2年前 , 39F
這指控真的很弱 看起來就這個做太爛想用SJW的議題
11/15 10:24, 39F
還有 30 則推文
11/15 10:50, 2年前 , 70F
@melzard 所以我前面也講了這種指控,殺佛都看起來像
11/15 10:50, 70F

11/15 10:50, 2年前 , 71F
個黃金佛殺啦.
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11/15 10:51, 2年前 , 72F
以為對方是有啥好料,結果是個覺黑.(攤手)
11/15 10:51, 72F

11/15 10:59, 2年前 , 73F
Waston是真的爛xdd
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11/15 11:01, 2年前 , 74F
他除了跟球員說我愛你之外,
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11/15 11:01, 2年前 , 75F
沒戰術沒養成,所以當初Chriss才會爆開
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11/15 11:03, 2年前 , 76F
太弱 這樣看來殺佛穩了
11/15 11:03, 76F

11/15 11:13, 2年前 , 77F
看到目前第三篇感想是根本是waston在搞事吧
11/15 11:13, 77F

11/15 11:15, 2年前 , 78F
請你當教練結果你把自己當老闆
11/15 11:15, 78F

11/15 11:20, 2年前 , 79F
不是 問你怎麼變強你跟我講多元化???
11/15 11:20, 79F

11/15 11:21, 2年前 , 80F
有一段是講Sarver開黃腔的可能還比較有殺傷力
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11/15 11:21, 2年前 , 81F
VC的指控還比這有料多了-.-
11/15 11:21, 81F

11/15 11:22, 2年前 , 82F
Monty還是簽五年,薪水似乎不差,要打歧視黑人這張
11/15 11:22, 82F

11/15 11:22, 2年前 , 83F
牌太弱
11/15 11:22, 83F

11/15 11:32, 2年前 , 84F
沒料 真的沒料
11/15 11:32, 84F

11/15 11:44, 2年前 , 85F
不只當教練爛 連爆料都爛
11/15 11:44, 85F

11/15 11:44, 2年前 , 86F
他當年就是太陽兄弟籃球的時期
11/15 11:44, 86F

11/15 12:10, 2年前 , 87F
時機很差 現在正在反思取消文化
11/15 12:10, 87F

11/15 12:22, 2年前 , 88F
Watson是真的爛 跟殺佛是爛老闆是兩回事
11/15 12:22, 88F

11/15 12:23, 2年前 , 89F
除非像快艇那樣有錄音 不然這指控沒什麼力道
11/15 12:23, 89F

11/15 12:29, 2年前 , 90F
指控很弱,只有Watson在暴露自己有多爛多可笑
11/15 12:29, 90F

11/15 12:38, 2年前 , 91F
Watson爛到相較於殺佛我更討厭他
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11/15 12:40, 2年前 , 92F
哦~~~
11/15 12:40, 92F

11/15 12:52, 2年前 , 93F
指控殺佛關於N-Word跟插手籃球事務沒啥爆點啊,是
11/15 12:52, 93F

11/15 12:52, 2年前 , 94F
性騷擾+開黃腔+對員工爛才有燒起來甚至出現案外案X
11/15 12:52, 94F

11/15 12:52, 2年前 , 95F
D
11/15 12:52, 95F

11/15 12:53, 2年前 , 96F
這指控無力到讓人覺得Watson是老闆的暗樁...
11/15 12:53, 96F

11/15 12:55, 2年前 , 97F
Watson 越看越像是拿種族議題來勒索的人而已 為了多
11/15 12:55, 97F

11/15 12:55, 2年前 , 98F
元化而多元化?
11/15 12:55, 98F

11/15 12:56, 2年前 , 99F
這邊沒人翻其他Part只看花生的指控,當然沒辦法理
11/15 12:56, 99F

11/15 12:56, 2年前 , 100F
解殺佛為啥要大動作反擊
11/15 12:56, 100F

11/15 13:09, 2年前 , 101F
其實原po在照全文翻 原篇超長欸…
11/15 13:09, 101F

11/15 13:09, 2年前 , 102F
超級大工程
11/15 13:09, 102F

11/15 14:46, 2年前 , 103F
那篇超長,後面的段落其實比較有討論空間,不過還是
11/15 14:46, 103F

11/15 14:46, 2年前 , 104F
一樣沒其他證據
11/15 14:46, 104F

11/15 15:42, 2年前 , 105F
Watson帶隊那幾年真爛到看不下去
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11/15 16:10, 2年前 , 106F
沙佛好像沒什麼大把柄阿..精的很
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11/15 19:35, 2年前 , 107F
用人唯才 看的是能力 多元化是三小
11/15 19:35, 107F

11/15 19:35, 2年前 , 108F
今天能力強的人是白人黑人黃人都沒差吧 重點是能力
11/15 19:35, 108F

11/15 19:36, 2年前 , 109F
為了多元化硬要用能力不夠的其他膚色人種才是奇怪
11/15 19:36, 109F
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