Re: [新聞] 多支球隊詢問七六人交易西蒙斯可能
這篇台媒報導的外電來源，沒意外是這篇: https://es.pn/2MfFBEU
由於一個禮拜前我有點進這篇文章看，印象中是完全沒有提到『其他球隊探尋Ben Simmons
的交易』
所以剛剛再點進去原文仔細看了一遍，果真沒有。
由於原文篇幅較長，這邊直接把內文中跟"sources"或"trade"有關的段落貼上。
但還是請各位點進去看全文
Every time the Sixers lose a high-profile game -- especially to Boston -- there
are calls across the media for them to trade Simmons. Embiid is the superior pla
yer. Philly has built its half-court offense mostly around him. Simmons' lack of
a jump shot becomes more of a liability in the postseason, when the game slows.
這裡的Calls to trade 根本不是指其他球隊來探尋交易，而是指媒體對於七六人是否交易S
immons的輿論或討論。
所以根本稱不上是『消息』，這是表達一個事實。
The Sixers went into the Butler experience with eyes wide open, and still hope t
o-sign him this summer, sources say. He objected during that recent film sess
ion only after coach Brett Brown asked if anyone wanted to add something -- and
after an assistant coach nudged T.J. McConnell to speak about his concerns, sour
ces say. Butler didn't mention just his own role; he mentioned McConnell's too.
這段的內容敘述方式才稱得上消息。
The calls to trade Simmons for multiple shooters will not stop until the Sixers
advance to at least the conference finals. I've even seen it suggested Philly de
al Simmons to Minnesota to get Robert Covington and Dario Saric back.
一樣，原文的意思根本不是指『其他球隊探尋交易』，而是指媒體或輿論。
所以這稱不上是消息。
Trading Simmons for complementary shooters also amounts to betting the franchise
on Embiid's continued health. Philly isn't ready to do that, and shouldn't be.
這段是Lowe個人的想法，並非消息。
If you dreamt up a Simmons-for-multiple-shooters deal, you might land upon a pai
ring like Gary Harris and Jamal Murray -- 3-point gunners who make plays off the
bounce. Even if Philly would flip Simmons for those two -- and they wouldn't --
Denver isn't risking this season's good vibes to see what a Simmons-Nikola Joki
c pairing looks like.
這段一樣是Lowe在『如果真的要交易西門的前提下』的想法，稱不上消息，頂多是他的個人
看法。
And remember: Every discussion about dealing Simmons for shooters and playmakers
is really a discussion about Markelle Fultz. Fultz was supposed to be the shoot
er-playmaker to meld everything. Instead, he is a zero. The Sixers coughed up a
pick -- Sacramento's 2019 first-rounder -- to move up for Fultz. Keep it as trad
e ammo, and perhaps the Sixers could have nabbed Butler without losing both Covi
ngton and Saric.
For those eager to deal Simmons, finding a two-man package as young, talented, a
nd plug-and-play ready as the Murray/Harris duo is almost impossible. You veer q
uickly into "dollar for three quarters" trades. If the Sixers ever reach the poi
nt of investigating Simmons' trade value, they should look for one youngish blue
-chipper and some minor supplementary piece.
Even if you could construct such a deal that makes sense for both teams, executi
ng it would require each to simultaneously feel ready for a franchise-altering s
hakeup. Blockbuster synchronization is rare.
這一大段一樣，是針對那些想交易西門的媒體寫的內容，跟消息一點關係也沒有。
所以後面Lowe列了一大堆他想的交易方案，太多我就不放了。
The Sixers can win a championship at some point with Simmons, Embiid, and Butler
; and the Sixers may come to a realization that they need to trade Simmons durin
g his prime.
The possibility of the first thing is why you don't rush the second.
一樣是他的個人看法。
所以看完全文，我還真的不明白為何台灣記者可以把人家好端端的一篇文章翻譯成一篇『充
滿消息的假文章』
這也是為何我不看台灣媒體的原因...
要引用外電可以，但至少基本的來源要附上，方便閱聽者檢驗吧。
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真正優質的新聞，根本不需要誇大亂掰，也能獲得閱聽者的尊重...
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※ 編輯: Zutter77 (115.43.77.170), 01/18/2019 00:13:30
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Lowe這篇內文還有不少值得參考的解說或是數據分析，他寫這篇本來就不是當作一個Rumor
在寫，這也是為何我很不認同台媒引用這篇文章的原因。
※ 編輯: Zutter77 (115.43.77.170), 01/18/2019 00:17:19
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