[外絮] 表弟也救不了鵜鶘總管犯的錯

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Not even Boogie Cousins can save the Pelicans from their general manager's mistakes https://goo.gl/KhvCxX 感慨每次都看到無敵雙塔配鐵匠 簡單翻一下 There is no question that the New Orleans Pelicans made an excellent trade to acquire DeMarcus Cousins from the Sacramento Kings in February. Cousins has been every bit as good as advertised, even while sharing the ball and spotlight with superstar teammate Anthony Davis. The Pelicans gave up Buddy Hield and a draft pick in that deal: Hield has improved in a more suitable environment and the pick became Justin Jackson and Harry Giles, but New Orleans would do that deal again in a heartbeat. 鵜鶘做了個絕佳的交易--換來表弟,只用了Buddy Hield+選秀權 再一次給鵜鶘選,依然會毫不猶豫成交 The question is not whether the Cousins trade was a good one. All evidence suggests that it was. The question is whether the Pelicans were in too deep a hole for the Cousins trade to allow them to recover. 不用懷疑,這絕對是筆是好交易 但目前鵜鶘的困境,連找來表弟都救不了 First, let’s run through the evidence that the Cousins trade has itself been a success. In 2016-17, after the trade, lineups featuring both Cousins and Davis were +41 in 394 minutes, or roughly +5 per 48 minutes. In Davis’ other 1,795 minutes last season, the Pelicans were +10, which works out to +0.25 per 48 minutes. 上賽季,表弟+AD同時在場上,贏對手5 point/48 mins 只有AD在場上時,贏對手0.25 point/48 mins Through seven games this season, the Pelicans are +44 in 147 minutes Cousins and Davis have shared on the floor. In 55 minutes with Davis on the floor and Cousins off, the Pelicans are -38. In 113 minutes with Cousins on the floor and Davis off, the Pelicans are -3. In the 21 minutes with neither on the floor, the Pelicans are -12. 本季前7場來看,雙塔在場147分鐘贏對手44分 AD一人在場上55分鐘,輸38分 表弟一人在場上113分鐘,輸3分 雙塔都不在時21分鐘,輸12分 In other words, the Pelicans are +14 per 48 minutes — something like a 60-win team — with Cousins and Davis on the floor together. They’re a -13 per 48 minutes — something like a 20-win team — when one or both sits. This is a failure of team-building. 經過換算 雙塔---贏14 point/48 mins--------->60勝超級強隊 單塔/0塔---輸13 point/48 mins----->20勝搶狀元 都是隊形害的.... Jrue Holiday matters to this conversation, as the lead point guard often plays with both bigs and only sometimes when just one of them is on the court. Obviously, the starting lineup is suited to making the Boogie-Brow duo shine. The bench units — including those which feature just one of the pair — suffer. Head coach Alvin Gentry has been good at staggering rest for Davis and Cousins; it just hasn’t mattered much. When one of them sits, the team — which has been smashing opposing starting lineups — folds. 假日大部分都和雙塔一起在場上,目前還算可適應雙塔 但替補球員有些人只能適應單塔 Gentry調度雙塔還行,雙塔缺一時真的打得很爛 Demps didn’t do much in free agency before this season because he couldn’t. He’d hamstrung himself over the years with bad deals and poor draft picks. In 2014, Demps traded a draft pick for Omer Asik, a lumbering relic with no place in the modern NBA. He compounded the mistake by giving Asik an enormous contract in free agency. Asik hasn’t seen a second of action this season. That same summer of 2015, Demps gave Alexis Ajinca — another center who isn’ t fit for today’s NBA — a sizeable deal. 鵜鶘總管Demps往往在休賽期難有作為 因為他自己亂簽人,選人眼光也差 2014年,用首輪換來Asik,一個傳統到不行的骨董C,而且竟然還給他肥約續留 一賺到肥約,阿西馬上休了一整個球季 2015年,又給Ajinca不小的合約,也是傳統C,難以適應當今球風 These centers aren’t just limiting New Orleans’ cap space. They are taking up valuable roster spots since the Pelicans are unwilling to cut bait and pay them to go away. Demps won the Jameer Nelson sweepstakes after Denver cut him loose. But to sign Nelson (a necessity with Rajon Rondo injured), the Pels had to waive a useful Jordan Crawford — all because Asik and Ajinca were taking up roster spots. 這對鳥雙塔占了薪資空間,也占了球員名額 鵜鶘也捨不得直接買斷他們 傷了軟豆,幸好找來尼二嬸,但因為名額上限也裁了能打的Jordan Crawford ---都是雙A害的(Asik+Ajinca) The draft might as well not even exist for New Orleans. Demps has been around for seven drafts. Only two first-round picks in that time played at least one full season for the Pelicans: Anthony Davis and Austin Rivers. Only Davis finished out his rookie deal in New Orleans. Nerlens Noel was traded in the Jrue Holiday deal on draft day; Hield went out in the Cousins swap. Consider this: Demps’ Pelicans has traded the team’s 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, and 2017 first-round picks for Holiday, Asik, and Cousins. dding to this pile of problems, Demps has failed to pull in any second-round draft gems. 總管玩過7枚簽,只有AD跟小河流在鵜鶘待超過一季 Noel換假日,Hield換表弟,其他簽都送走了 2013~2017的首輪,換來假日、阿西、表弟 2輪簽選來的一個能打的都沒有 As evidenced by Asik and Ajinca, Demps hasn’t fared much better in free agency. Spending big on Tyreke Evans in 2013 didn’t work out, and the Solomon Hill deal in 2016 was a classic reach that limited New Orleans in 2017. Rondo and Tony Allen received modest deals this summer — under the gun to re-up Holiday, all the Pels could offer were modest deals — that can’t hurt. But the fact that neither can shoot from distance poses spectacular fit issues. Somehow, the latest Demps pick-up — Josh Smith — seems unlikely to resolve that problem. 雙A事件告訴大家,總管在自由市場上眼睛有問題 2013年-------------大約簽下Tyreke Evans 2016年經典作-------大約找來Solomon Hill 2017年不錯---------找來軟豆跟Tony Allen 但找來的這些人,外線都不太好,這是讓鵜鶘陷入困境的主因之一 最近簽的Josh Smith也半斤八兩 What exactly has Demps done right in New Orleans? He drafted Davis and traded for Cousins. The Jrue Holiday trade worked out pretty well, in part because Nerlens Noel remains a walking question mark. Everything else Demps has done has been a complete mess. 總管到底做對什麼? 找來表弟跟假日不錯,(假日不錯是因為Noel目前看起來也沒多好) 除了上述兩筆交易,其餘動作都是來亂的 Now we are learning that the few huge roster victories can’t paper over the parade of failures. Unless the Pelicans figure out a way to survive those essential minutes when Boogie and the Brow aren’t on the court together, Demps dug himself a hole too deep to climb out of. 大家都知道了吧! 一兩筆好交易,還是難以彌補以前犯的過錯 鵜鶘必須找到沒雙塔該怎麼打球 不然這個泥沼,總管Demps是永遠爬不出來了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 1.163.44.186 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1509853621.A.60A.html

11/05 11:50, 6年前 , 1F
找來的球員簡崔不會用也怪GM?
11/05 11:50, 1F

11/05 11:51, 6年前 , 2F
樓下支援AD流淚圖
11/05 11:51, 2F

11/05 11:51, 6年前 , 3F
ASIK當初在火箭也是很猛 GM也不知道球風變那麼快
11/05 11:51, 3F

11/05 11:51, 6年前 , 4F
後衛爛掉爆
11/05 11:51, 4F

11/05 11:51, 6年前 , 5F
TE灰熊用的好爽
11/05 11:51, 5F

11/05 11:52, 6年前 , 6F
Demp跟簡崔都炒起來
11/05 11:52, 6F

11/05 11:52, 6年前 , 7F
EG RA去了火箭都考100分了
11/05 11:52, 7F

11/05 11:53, 6年前 , 8F
後衛太爛?假日在七六人也很猛,走掉的EG到火箭也很
11/05 11:53, 8F

11/05 11:53, 6年前 , 9F
11/05 11:53, 9F

11/05 11:54, 6年前 , 10F
如果不是你這篇的數據 我都差點被Maxslack大大大誤
11/05 11:54, 10F

11/05 11:54, 6年前 , 11F
導為Cousins很爛惹嗚嗚
11/05 11:54, 11F

11/05 11:55, 6年前 , 12F
只能說高估強力內線的影響力了吧 AD自己本身也蠻痛
11/05 11:55, 12F

11/05 11:55, 6年前 , 13F
反正最後留不住AD demp也差不多了
11/05 11:55, 13F

11/05 11:55, 6年前 , 14F
hield到國王馬上變少主
11/05 11:55, 14F

11/05 11:56, 6年前 , 15F
數據刷的漂亮輸球的強力內線也不只他一個 很多人都
11/05 11:56, 15F

11/05 11:56, 6年前 , 16F
有這毛病
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11/05 11:56, 6年前 , 17F
回來原文 我是覺得TE是好球員 季前也希望我爵能搶下
11/05 11:56, 17F

11/05 11:57, 6年前 , 18F
Jordan Crawford也是好綠葉 其他不熟不多說
11/05 11:57, 18F

11/05 11:57, 6年前 , 19F
reke不管在國王還是在灰熊,都比在鵜鶘好很多
11/05 11:57, 19F

11/05 11:58, 6年前 , 20F
簡崔打小球卻用不好後衛,怪誰?
11/05 11:58, 20F

11/05 11:59, 6年前 , 21F
對啊 所以除了傷兵史以及在水鳥的成績 這麼乖又努力
11/05 11:59, 21F

11/05 12:00, 6年前 , 22F
天賦也還在的球員 不搶可惜啊
11/05 12:00, 22F

11/05 12:01, 6年前 , 23F
原來水鳥是教練的問題
11/05 12:01, 23F

11/05 12:01, 6年前 , 24F
雙塔只是簡崔的遮羞布而已
11/05 12:01, 24F

11/05 12:01, 6年前 , 25F
查了一下 今年才10.2M 有夠便宜
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11/05 12:02, 6年前 , 26F
水鳥本來就教練問題
11/05 12:02, 26F

11/05 12:02, 6年前 , 27F
猶記得當初換掉Monty,歡天喜地的XD
11/05 12:02, 27F

11/05 12:02, 6年前 , 28F
Hield我王少主?是不是有什麼誤會
11/05 12:02, 28F

11/05 12:03, 6年前 , 29F
但也不能否認總管的交易做很糟,個人覺得操之過急
11/05 12:03, 29F

11/05 12:03, 6年前 , 30F
今年還有Fox啦
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11/05 12:05, 6年前 , 31F
去年Hield轉隊後的確打出少主架勢,有什麼問題嗎
11/05 12:05, 31F

11/05 12:05, 6年前 , 32F
如果都是丟外線造成長籃板 哪兩個大個也沒有優勢
11/05 12:05, 32F

11/05 12:06, 6年前 , 33F
打法應該還是圍繞兩個長人 所以目前數據正常
11/05 12:06, 33F

11/05 12:07, 6年前 , 34F
Hield現在狀況國王迷比較清楚吧?
11/05 12:07, 34F

11/05 12:09, 6年前 , 35F
Hield現在炸裂中 沒有人知道他怎麼會變那麼爛XDDDDD
11/05 12:09, 35F

11/05 12:18, 6年前 , 36F
很簡單 看看火箭的Gordon跟RA 就知道 馬上起飛
11/05 12:18, 36F

11/05 12:19, 6年前 , 37F
hield這幾場打不好,也比在鵜鶘PER高很多
11/05 12:19, 37F

11/05 12:20, 6年前 , 38F
鵜鶘總管爛是有目共睹,但是簡崔還是會領繩的,怪教
11/05 12:20, 38F

11/05 12:20, 6年前 , 39F
練最簡單了,完全不用思考
11/05 12:20, 39F
還有 41 則推文
11/05 12:57, 6年前 , 81F
掛傷號少一個或狀況略差,就是一盤散沙,一樣搶樂透
11/05 12:57, 81F

11/05 12:57, 6年前 , 82F
的程度,塔當西河用,就是等搶關鍵戰績時又沒塔可用
11/05 12:57, 82F

11/05 12:59, 6年前 , 83F
他們還不留 Casspi
11/05 12:59, 83F

11/05 13:00, 6年前 , 84F
就看軟豆能把二陣帶怎樣…
11/05 13:00, 84F

11/05 13:01, 6年前 , 85F
TE到灰熊 真的回來了打得很猛
11/05 13:01, 85F

11/05 13:01, 6年前 , 86F
如果今年續約表弟,雙塔占薪資應該是7成
11/05 13:01, 86F

11/05 13:04, 6年前 , 87F
問題是Gentry比較大 好人不等於好教練
11/05 13:04, 87F

11/05 13:12, 6年前 , 88F
Gentry和Demps都該滾了
11/05 13:12, 88F

11/05 13:21, 6年前 , 89F
爛教練爛總管雞肋球員 老闆預算不多才沒辦法像湖人
11/05 13:21, 89F

11/05 13:21, 6年前 , 90F
一直換教練
11/05 13:21, 90F

11/05 13:22, 6年前 , 91F
看雙塔是蠻爽的 但是其他就沒了
11/05 13:22, 91F

11/05 13:49, 6年前 , 92F
明明是教練問題 超塞水鳥互換教練看看
11/05 13:49, 92F

11/05 13:52, 6年前 , 93F
教練就廢啊,鵜鶘不換就是不換
11/05 13:52, 93F

11/05 13:55, 6年前 , 94F
萬能雙塔配一票3D和幾個組織後衛,這個配置概念各大
11/05 13:55, 94F

11/05 13:55, 6年前 , 95F
論壇、球評與專欄已經是共識也講爛了,但問題是鵜鶘
11/05 13:55, 95F

11/05 13:55, 6年前 , 96F
除了Omer Asik、E’Twaun Moore、Alexis Ajinca和So
11/05 13:55, 96F

11/05 13:55, 6年前 , 97F
lomon Hill合計4500萬的爛約,假日與雙塔難以兼容的
11/05 13:55, 97F

11/05 13:56, 6年前 , 98F
不用爭誰爛 教練總管一樣爛
11/05 13:56, 98F

11/05 13:56, 6年前 , 99F
基本上還是GM的鍋....教練也是GM找的啊~
11/05 13:56, 99F

11/05 14:13, 6年前 , 100F
水鳥教練問題很大
11/05 14:13, 100F

11/05 14:25, 6年前 , 101F
雙塔真的強,希望戰績能打出來
11/05 14:25, 101F

11/05 14:26, 6年前 , 102F
哈哈哈
11/05 14:26, 102F

11/05 14:28, 6年前 , 103F
再說一次 雙塔不會用至少輪流上場分攤時間 AD每場
11/05 14:28, 103F

11/05 14:28, 6年前 , 104F
40分中真的hen可憐
11/05 14:28, 104F

11/05 14:39, 6年前 , 105F
只有本季前7場就不用拿來放大說嘴 上季樣本數更多
11/05 14:39, 105F

11/05 14:39, 6年前 , 106F
的確是AD一人在場時比較好
11/05 14:39, 106F

11/05 14:48, 6年前 , 107F
肯定是GM的鍋,GM當太久了
11/05 14:48, 107F

11/05 16:56, 6年前 , 108F
給所羅門山那種合約真的是廢到笑
11/05 16:56, 108F

11/05 17:39, 6年前 , 109F
Hield最多可以成為季後賽邊緣球隊的少主
11/05 17:39, 109F

11/05 18:39, 6年前 , 110F
這雙塔給波波用還不飛天...
11/05 18:39, 110F

11/05 18:39, 6年前 , 111F
只能說水鳥制服組不是普通的廢
11/05 18:39, 111F

11/05 18:40, 6年前 , 112F
季初看他們的操作就知道沒戲了 竟然留簡崔
11/05 18:40, 112F

11/05 19:31, 6年前 , 113F
ad本來就被高估啊
11/05 19:31, 113F

11/05 21:23, 6年前 , 114F
一直hen是什麼梗??
11/05 21:23, 114F

11/06 08:34, 6年前 , 115F
怪簡崔就對了
11/06 08:34, 115F

11/06 08:41, 6年前 , 116F
MONTY也好不到哪啦.和球員八低八低及河流保母罷了
11/06 08:41, 116F

11/06 19:30, 6年前 , 117F
灰熊200萬撿到TE根本中樂透
11/06 19:30, 117F

11/10 15:05, 6年前 , 118F
借問一下我只看高光,為什麼表弟每場都懶洋洋愛打不
11/10 15:05, 118F

11/10 15:05, 6年前 , 119F
打的,給人種只想拿球當控衛秀運球和妙傳的感覺,整
11/10 15:05, 119F

11/10 15:05, 6年前 , 120F
個團隊很缺乏化學效應
11/10 15:05, 120F
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