[外絮] 聯盟要修改選秀樂透制度--不給坦惹

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來源:The Bleacher Report 網址:http://tinyurl.com/y7yyjepc NBA Reportedly Pursuing Vote on Draft Lottery Reform 聯盟要修改選秀樂透制度 Having failed to institute reform in the NBA draft lottery process before, the NBA is again addressing the topic and could have a solution approved prior to the start of the 2017-18 regular season, ESPN.com's Adrian Wojnarowski reported Thursday. 過去聯盟嘗試想改變選秀樂透制度但是失敗,但是星期二沃神報導,聯盟最近又想在把這 個議題提出,想在2017-2018球季開始前找到個解決方式。 According to Wojnarowski, the NBA's Competition Committee could send a formal recommendation to the Board of Governors next week in order to gain final approval. But it's unclear whether the new rules would go into effect with the 2018 draft or at a later date. 據沃神報導,聯盟的委員會已經送正式的建議案給聯盟高層,希望可以獲得同意。現在是 不確定新規定會是在2018選秀就生效還是要之後才施行。 Wojnarowski wrote that NBA Commissioner Adam Silver is a proponent of lowering the odds the NBA's worst teams have to gain the top draft picks. Rather than the team with the worst record having the best chance of getting the No. 1 overall pick, the three worst teams would have the same odds of landing the top selection. 沃神說,聯盟總裁Silver也是支持改變選秀樂透制度的人,希望降低戰績最差的隊伍拿到 好籤的機率。不是讓最爛隊拿第一順位籤,而是讓最爛的三隊都有一樣的機率拿到最好 籤。 There would also be a wider variance of possibilities in terms of picks: 而且拿到高順位的籤的順序也可能要改。 "Presently, the NBA team with the worst record can drop no lower than No. 4 from No. 1, but the NBA's currently proposed legislation could allow that team to drop from first to fifth in the lottery, league sources said. This would include a domino effect through the lottery, where the second-worst record presently dropping no lower than fourth, could fall to sixth. Then, the No. 3 team could drop as far as seven, and on down, league sources said." 「目前聯盟是戰績最差的隊伍可以拿的樂透籤是不可以低於第四順位;但是消息來源指 出,目前規劃是不可以低於第五順位;第二爛的隊本來是不可以低於第四,現在會到第六 順位;第三爛的可能可以低到第七,甚至更差。」 In addition, a team couldn't have a top-three selection in back-to-back years. 另外,一個隊伍不可以連續兩年拿到前三順位籤。 During an interview on Mike & Mike in April, Silver said he thought the lottery process needed to be addressed. He also spoke of his affinity for European soccer, where underperforming teams are relegated to lower leagues, while admitting that that approach will never come to the NBA. Silver在四月的時候接受訪問,認為樂透制度必須有所改變。他認為像歐洲足球是他傾向 的方式,表現不好的球隊就會被下放到次級聯盟,但他也承認這種方式在NBA是不可能可以 施行的。 The trend of tanking to get the best possible draft position has been especially prevalent in the Eastern Conference of late. 最近聯盟裡的東區球隊為了拿到好籤有開始坦的風氣。 The Philadelphia 76ers have spent years as one of the NBA's worst teams, while three playoff teams from last year have essentially signaled a full-scale rebuild this past summer. The Chicago Bulls and Indiana Pacers traded away their best players, while the Atlanta Hawks dealt Dwight Howard and lost Paul Millsap to free agency. 費城76人隊花了好幾年成為聯盟最爛隊之一,去年的三支季後賽球隊也開始表示進入全隊 打掉重練的重建期。芝加哥公牛跟印地安那遛馬把他們的明星球員給交易掉,亞特蘭大老 鷹則是把DH交易調,也沒把自由球員Millsap留下來。 For smaller-market teams unable to attract marquee free agents, tanking is a sensible approach to building a title contender, but it also increases the stratification in the NBA and creates a race to the bottom. Finishing between fifth and eighth in the conference standings is essentially the worst place a franchise can be, since the team is neither a true title contender nor a lottery team. 對於小市場球隊,沒辦法吸引到明星級的自由球員,利用「坦」來重建球隊,打造有競爭 力的球隊是合理的,但這樣導致聯盟實力差距開始懸殊,也讓球隊開始搶爐主的位置。戰 績落在分區第五到第八的球隊基本上會是處於最差的位置,因為這樣的球隊既沒競爭力拿 到冠軍,也搶不到好的樂透籤。 Whatever the NBA's approach, it would appear the league will formally address tanking in the near future. 不管聯盟要怎麼處理,看樣子聯盟開始要對「坦」出招了。 -- 翻譯了才知道,原來「坦」這個字是這樣來的... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.120.132.94 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1504843055.A.5D9.html

09/08 11:58, , 1F
就坦克啊
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09/08 11:59, , 2F
七六人表示無感
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09/08 12:01, , 3F
讓戰績最差的三隊機率均等,表示倒數第四的球隊更會
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09/08 12:01, , 4F
用力坦啊......
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09/08 12:01, , 5F
太陽快哭死了QQ
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09/08 12:01, , 6F
然後不得連續兩年拿前三順位,那如果像是C's這種算
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09/08 12:01, , 7F
不算?拿別人的籤但是抽到前三也不行?
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09/08 12:01, , 8F
不 ESPN的文章有講 他會讓前五爛的隊伍取得狀元
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09/08 12:01, , 9F
可是有說可能不會過,這樣小市場球隊更難翻身
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09/08 12:01, , 10F
76人 灰狼坦爽了
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09/08 12:01, , 11F
的機率差大幅降低
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09/08 12:02, , 12F
今年就改的話籃網簽不就掰了
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09/08 12:02, , 13F
Woj是說最快2019開始實施
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09/08 12:02, , 14F
應該要修成不能連兩年前4順位
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09/08 12:03, , 15F
是騎士就掰了 安吉有內線 ?
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09/08 12:03, , 16F
以前要坦到第一有高機率,前3機率一樣那不是更要坦
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09/08 12:03, , 17F
https://goo.gl/RrRewj ESPN的文章
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09/08 12:03, , 18F
白痴人家就說了不能連續兩年前三 你要怎麼坦
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09/08 12:03, , 19F
不給坦 然後把聯盟搞成報團至上 這樣乾脆小市場都
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09/08 12:04, , 20F
這個要老板投票才能通過,所以有難度
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09/08 12:04, , 21F
解散好了 反正小市場等死 大市場拼團大
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09/08 12:04, , 22F
是說這幾年狂開坦的都不是小市場球隊啊
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09/08 12:05, , 23F
就一起坦的概念 這樣靠坦起來的小市場球隊難翻身
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09/08 12:06, , 24F
可是坦白講一個前三順位還不足以讓球隊翻身
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09/08 12:06, , 25F
安吉神算?
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09/08 12:07, , 26F
巫師都要三個,灰狼七六人就不用講了
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09/08 12:08, , 27F
坦到一個LBJ或KD等級的 要翻身不難 怎麼留才是問題
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09/08 12:08, , 28F
76人:還好我坦完了
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09/08 12:09, , 29F
雷霆也是坦到三個才翻身,雖然西河是第四順位
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09/08 12:12, , 30F
不能連續前三這影響太大,代表重建隊要花更長時間
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09/08 12:12, , 31F
坦只能算是拿籌碼 面對組團還是無力 未來可能還要對
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09/08 12:13, , 32F
組團做限制...? 不然永遠都不會公平的啦 XD
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09/08 12:13, , 33F
那需不需要管一下抱團呢?
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不能連續拿就好了
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打太爛直接降級 低品質的球賽就別出來丟臉了
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09/08 12:14, , 36F
足球那套是職業聯盟的最終型態 NBA也要跟上
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推打太爛降級,讓次級聯盟的球隊上來
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09/08 12:14, , 38F
不可能降級啦,要降到哪去
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09/08 12:15, , 39F
連三年倒數前幾強制解散才是王道
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還有 148 則推文
09/08 15:52, , 188F
戰績最差三隊去CBA 選我正解
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09/08 15:54, , 189F
不給坦+大幅提高奢侈稅呢?
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09/08 16:20, , 190F
東區的確一堆球隊還沒開季看起來就想開坦了
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09/08 16:34, , 191F
這還是坦吧......
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09/08 16:36, , 192F
早該修改了,坦很難看
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09/08 16:48, , 193F
溜馬又不是自願交易pg的,講幹話喔
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09/08 16:53, , 194F
選秀順位從戰績17發到30再從16給到1
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09/08 18:14, , 195F
看票房決定順位好噗好
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09/08 19:06, , 196F
最差的一隊降級,第二差拿第一順位簽
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魔獸出多久,坦就用多久...
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籃網也不是故意坦到狀元籤吧....
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09/08 20:25, , 199F
趕快搞降級制,不想玩的爛隊就趕快收掉
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09/08 21:47, , 200F
籃球就是只要看10隊就好,其他的不用看
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09/08 22:12, , 201F
依名次分成三批 樂透給下游球隊第一名的頭
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*下游球隊的頭
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09/08 22:18, , 203F
我覺得西雅圖開一支新球隊 最墊底的下次級 換新隊上
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09/08 22:23, , 204F
76人: 還好我坦完了
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09/08 22:58, , 205F
擺爛三年以上的球隊轉播金分紅打折就夠了
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09/08 23:25, , 206F
我覺得最爛隊可以得到最棒的獎賞,這種機制本來就
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很怪。或許可以從進不了季後賽的一群,去拼戰績好
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的有高機會樂透前6之類,至少你是拼獎勵而不是拼命
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比擺爛
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09/08 23:27, , 210F
球迷應該也不想看到自己隊伍擺爛,打到擺爛隊也很
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難看
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09/08 23:56, , 212F
翻不了身以後小市場都像MLB馬林魚那樣賺錢就好
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09/09 00:08, , 213F
其實就最後14名都有1/14狀元的機會就好了
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76人:計畫通
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其實仔細想這樣的狀況就是從一些球隊組三巨頭開始
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09/09 07:55, , 216F
想輸不想贏的比賽超難看的
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09/09 07:57, , 217F
是該改 不然一堆擺爛的季賽沒人看
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09/09 08:35, , 218F
沒進季後賽的球隊,抽到樂透籤的機率都一樣就好了
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09/09 09:46, , 219F
乾脆改成抽7-9順位,坦到底的球隊反而最有可能只拿
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7-9順位,那看你還坦不坦 XD
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09/09 09:58, , 221F
爛的去次級聯盟感覺不錯,哈哈
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09/09 10:59, , 222F
這樣強隊只會更強 弱隊更難翻身
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09/09 11:31, , 223F
擺爛的季賽沒人看,早知勝負的季後賽也沒什麼看頭
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09/09 14:15, , 224F
坦根本超蠢,坦完又坦更蠢
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09/09 14:40, , 225F
規定第7-11才能抽樂透籤
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09/10 09:14, , 226F
還好湖人已經坦滿了 XDD
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09/10 11:29, , 227F
影響坦的因素那麼多,光改選秀有屁用
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