Re: [花邊] Glen Davis覺得Doc Rivers過譽

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※ 引述《kaga1991 ()》之銘言： : 情報： : https://goo.gl/Yb5Zfy : 內文： : “He was lucky as hell...The year before that they was wearing trash bags...The next year they win it, now he is one of the best coaches ever?” : 他只是狗屎運啦，前一年綠衫軍還是爛隊然後隔年組GAP拿到冠軍他就變成史上最佳教練之一了？ : 有艇迷要來辯嗎 https://goo.gl/9c1Iy8 這篇有更詳細的訪談原文 節錄一些稍微翻一下 "Because what Doc had in '08 was special," Davis said on the podcast. "And he was lucky as hell. Lucky as hell. The year before that they were wearing trash bags (in the crowd). ... But then the next year they win it, now he's one of the best coaches ever? I'm just not feeling that, you know what I mean? You give credit to KG. You give credit to Paul Pierce. You give credit to Ray Allen. Those are the guys that made sure whatever Doc needed to be done got done. And so now it's easy for Doc to do his job. 這段大寶貝認為 比起河流的執教能力 超賽在08年的成功絕大部分是因為3個名人堂球員的功勞 "And then you give credit to Danny Ainge. That's the one you give credit to because I know multiple times he had to talk to Doc just to say, 'Hey Doc, leave them alone. Hey Doc, ease up. Like, there's points where you ease up.' I would play good games and Doc wouldn't even give me like, hey. I'd play great games and he'd be: 'Go do it again.' You know? You want to hear that, 'Hey, great job kid. Good job, man. Keep it up.' But not, 'Go do it again.' So I'm off that Doc tip man." 大寶貝也認為 超賽的成功 Ainge 的功勞比河流大 大寶貝說 當他表現好的時候 河流不會稱讚他 只會叫他保持這樣的水準 Davis proceeded to call Rivers "a great guy" but said he has "cooled off" on his former coach. Davis did not like the way his time with the Los Angeles Clippers ended. "I don't like what he's doing right now," Davis said. "I don't like his organization, what he's doing, his teams. We had something in '08 and that was it. You know what I mean? That's what that is. So far, like, I didn't like how the way he handled me on my exit. Yeah, hold yourself accountable, but at the same time I had a broken ankle. I won a championship with you and you don't even really call me. I've got to beg you to call me. My agent has to beg you to call me. My ankle's broke. And you just told me -- they pulled me to the side when I played against Houston and told me, 'You're not playing the way you need to play. You're not doing this.' My ankle was broke. My ankle was broke. And they're shooting me up, shooting me up, shooting me up every day to play. My ankle was broke." Though he said the Clippers did not know the extent of the damage, Davis said, "They just did an X-ray (for the ankle). They didn't do an MRI. And it was just like, 'Oh, can you run? Can you play?' The next day they had me working out after I broke my ankle. They had me trying to play Game 7. It was crazy and I'm just not feeling that. When you win a championship with somebody, you don't treat nobody like that. No matter if it's a business or not, because it's bigger than basketball between us, Doc. I have never left you at the altar. I've never left you at the altar. You know what I mean? I've never left. You go get Spencer Hawes, he does nothing. You've got to trade him. You've still got me on the bench knowing that I can play, but you still go play Spencer Hawes knowing that you're just trying to cover your own butt because Spencer's not panning out the way you wanted him to pan out. And I just don't like that. I'm not feeling that." 大寶貝最後一場比賽就是在快艇 當時也是河流執教 他當時腳踝受傷 卻還是被要求在第七戰上場 (最後快艇從3-1被火箭逆轉) 大寶貝認為他曾跟河流一起奪冠 河流不該這樣對他 大寶貝也對當時的隊友 Spencer Hawes不滿意 直言河流應該交易他 (這段翻譯不太順 請強者幫忙) Asked if Rivers is overrated as a coach, Davis replied, "I think so. Yeah." 大寶貝認為 河流真的過譽了 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 心得： 印象中河流的人和不錯 本來以為大寶貝跟河流關係很好 沒想到大寶貝今天忽然開砲 國外的鄉民除了批評大寶貝之外 也有一些人對河流有質疑 畢竟快艇這幾年戰績不錯 但總是摸不到西冠的天花板... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.35.131.214 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1487331932.A.F76.html
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02/17 19:50, , 1F
沒球打 怕被世人遺忘吧
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他應該是跟主將關係好吧 閒雜人等不需要用心
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02/17 19:52, , 3F
大寶貝你還是算惹吧
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02/17 19:57, , 4F
老實說快艇這種陣容給他玩成這副鳥樣 被砲也是應該
02/17 19:57, 4F
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02/17 19:57, , 5F
的
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02/17 19:57, , 6F
受傷還要你上場不就是很看重你嗎?想什麼??
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02/17 19:58, , 7F
CP3 DAJ BG哪一個拉到市場不是超級大物
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02/17 20:01, , 8F
是摸不到西決地板吧，中間差了一層樓啊
02/17 20:01, 8F
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02/17 20:01, , 9F
其實快艇三巨頭都有無法改善的缺點 也不能怪快艇
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02/17 20:03, , 10F
現實就是這三巨頭還不夠巨啊，永遠打不進西冠，今年
02/17 20:03, 10F
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02/17 20:03, , 11F
也很難
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02/17 20:04, , 12F
快艇在河流來之前戰績印象中就55勝了 河流根本頂多
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02/17 20:04, , 13F
持平
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02/17 20:06, , 14F
看他這麼重用小河流就知道他的執教功力了...
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02/17 20:13, , 15F
Spencer Hawes怎麼了？
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02/17 20:18, , 16F
心靈流導師 3-1被翻盤評價大傷 浪費CP3季後巔峰表現
02/17 20:18, 16F
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02/17 20:20, , 17F
三巨頭的缺點? 一個矮一個痛一個笨?
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02/17 20:22, , 18F
說的對啊 的確過譽
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02/17 20:24, , 19F
快艇近幾年都有冠軍陣容 結果闖不進西冠
02/17 20:24, 19F
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02/17 20:24, , 20F
那是球迷自認的吧
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02/17 20:25, , 21F
保羅一受傷 就被看光光了 就只是靠著船長而已
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02/17 20:26, , 22F
河流絕對是過譽 快艇這陣容其實很讚應該要更好
02/17 20:26, 22F
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02/17 20:26, , 23F
看到他之前寧願用小河也不用舞王 真的是會氣死
02/17 20:26, 23F
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02/17 20:30, , 24F
Hawes在快艇打超糞...
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02/17 20:32, , 25F
河流本來就過譽 超廢
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02/17 20:36, , 26F
照大家標準 NBA也沒幾個教練是真貨了吧
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02/17 20:37, , 27F
Hawes是打得廢 但大寶貝也只有卡位功能啊
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02/17 20:39, , 28F
所有過譽的球員 教練在同一隊 自以為明星陣容 結果`
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02/17 20:39, , 29F
績都過譽！結案
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連戰績
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02/17 20:47, , 31F
應該是退休了才敢講真心話吧
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02/17 20:51, , 32F
其實也跟CP3 BG這幾年在季後賽都不能健康有關啦
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02/17 20:55, , 33F
不怕被KG電嗎? 敢講KG最愛的教練壞話
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02/17 21:01, , 34F
A Three?
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02/17 21:02, , 35F
我記得Matt Barnes跟Doc Rivers好像也互相不喜歡的
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02/17 21:02, , 36F
樣子，人和還是得看對象吧，似乎不是跟每個人都好
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02/17 21:05, , 37F
快艇之前幾年板凳可以用的人明明就很多，但河流就是
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02/17 21:05, , 38F
都不用，用了也不會用
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02/17 21:09, , 39F
照這樣講，Kerr也過譽阿！滿手MVP總～～亞軍！
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02/17 21:19, , 40F
今年才滿手MVP吧 就不要今年勇士總冠軍
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02/17 21:35, , 41F
你有看過kerr叫過很厲害的戰術嗎？拿冠軍又如何？
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02/17 21:40, , 42F
我還以為主要是錫箔度防守教練的功勞
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02/17 21:43, , 43F
快艇有好一陣子板凳有很多優秀的選手
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02/17 21:46, , 44F
河流真的不是操先發不然就不會用
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02/17 21:48, , 45F
後來就開始整隊陪勝文練球...
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02/17 21:49, , 46F
PP這種當時主力現在都放在板凳了 你怎麼會覺得你不
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02/17 21:49, , 47F
該被那樣對待
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PP轉戰快艇前在巫師還打的可以 結果來快艇直接被放
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在板凳末席
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02/17 22:08, , 50F
彈迷又在為可能拿不到冠軍打預防針了 柯爾光是用傑
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希望放PP板凳是記取了歐肥的教訓...
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02/17 22:09, , 52F
克森陣容拿冠軍就很猛了吧 好吧可能彈迷眼中就是覺
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02/17 22:09, , 53F
得彈塗魚身兼總教練還奪冠 柯爾就是渣渣吧 廠廠 自
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02/17 22:09, , 54F
己看不懂戰術還在該 勇士三四擋的戰術也可以被說成
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02/17 22:09, , 55F
沒什麼 喔對了彈迷會說是非法掩護 然後繼續無視自己
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的無碰撞非出
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飛 啊～
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02/17 22:34, , 58F
kerr重用追夢，讓curry解放球權，這招就屌打河流了
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02/17 23:07, , 59F
讓小AI去第二陣容也是當年很猛的作法
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02/17 23:12, , 60F
西區這幾年擋路的真的太恐怖了 刺挺勇輪流卡位
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02/17 23:12, , 61F
15年3-1被逆轉搞不好是快艇的最後機會...
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噓
02/18 00:29, , 62F
如果沒有他當年就有第二冠了
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02/18 01:15, , 63F
河流超愛用超級球星，至於其它的嘛.....
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02/18 05:13, , 64F
河流過譽大家早就知道不是嗎
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02/18 08:31, , 65F
覺得快艇就缺一個全能小前峰，能在cp3跟射手低潮時
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，避免陷入只能靠幹籃哥iso單打囧鏡
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02/18 12:35, , 67F
快艇這兩年越來越退步 只會靠cp3 河流有什麼料？
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02/18 13:55, , 68F
質疑Ker真的超沒道理的…他接手Mark球隊戰績直接進
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步10幾勝，勇士現在的攻守體系也是他建立起來的
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