Re: [情報] 禪師:LBJ接球每兩次就有一次走步!

看板NBA作者 (噓言NEUROSE)時間9年前 (2015/06/23 01:16), 9年前編輯推噓58(58036)
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補一下原文 “I watch LeBron James, for example,” he said. “He might [travel] every othe r time he catches the basketball if he’s off the ball. He catches the ball, m oves both his feet. You see it happen all the time. There’s no structure, the re’s no discipline, there’s no ‘How do we play this game’ type of attitude . And it goes all the way through the game. To the point where now guys don’t screen—they push guys off with their hands.” He concluded: “It struck me: How can we get so far away from the real truth o f what we’re trying to do? And if you give people structure, just like a jazz musician—he’s gotta learn melody, and he’s gotta learn the basic parts of music—and then he can learn how to improvise. And that’s basically what team play is all about.” The agitation in Jackson’s voice is evident. “The game actually has some beauty to it, and we’ve kind of taken some of th at out of it to make it individualized,” Jackson said. “It’s a lot of who w e are as a country, individualized stuff.” Indeed, Jackson seems much less concerned with validating the triangle than wi th the state of the game itself. “When I watch some of these playoff games, and I look at what’s being run ou t there, as what people call an offense, it’s really quite remarkable to see how far our game has fallen from a team game,” Jackson said. “Four guys stan d around watching one guy dribble a basketball.” → ozil23 : 影片播比較慢會有視差的問題 常看棒球的就知道 06/23 01:50 → ozil23 : 不要相信自己在電視上轉播看到的 現場看才最準 06/23 01:51 XDDD -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 115.43.91.79 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1434993415.A.B0D.html ※ 編輯: Takasteric (115.43.91.79), 06/23/2015 01:17:52

06/23 01:19, , 1F
跟中文翻譯一樣阿
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再打一次臉呀!!
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噓 lcy317 : 不太信原文會是這種講法 八成斷章取義
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腿迷會無視啦幫補
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那張圖不收不行啦
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腳步比較沒看到,倒是手部動作很同意,冠軍賽LBJ常
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常對位小AI的時候,都是用手推開小AI清出空間
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智者咧 好幾天沒看見人了 翻譯很忙吧
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然後還被單防守住
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八秒左右 收球 右腳為軸心腳 推開人後 抬右腳跳投
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28秒 在籃下不知道走幾步了
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06/23 01:30, , 16F
原文重點根本不是這段
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補全了

06/23 01:32, , 17F
有提到就是有提到阿, 在那邊跳針幹嘛
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的確是有說他走步
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禪師想說現在NBA和他所想的不一樣
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06/23 01:35, , 20F
他想看到的是有體系的籃球 於是拿姆斯當例子
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※ 編輯: Takasteric (115.43.91.79), 06/23/2015 01:37:14

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我也覺得很多球員的步伐,感覺都很有抓走步的空間
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LBJ的的下球方式真的很詭異,這叫金身嗎?
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S大那張太靠北了XDDD 第一個是哥倫布嗎?
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2樓的圖XDDDD
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那張圖真的很靠北XDD
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LBJ這完全沒有不抓的空間 只能說金身 純金的
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那張圖好笑XDDD
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2F …
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哈哈哈 看棒球XDD
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※ 編輯: Takasteric (115.43.91.79), 06/23/2015 01:56:44

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電視看真的不準 你以為是四步上籃 其實動太快是六步
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靠北2F XDDDDD
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別人只能走2步 他能走7步 難怪這麼難守
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最後幾句標準LBJ打法啊 ㄧ個PF跑去三分線外 盯著防
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守者 揮手要隊友帶開給他空間切入 然後慢慢下球抓節
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奏 準備完畢暴力壓肩開路切入 最後看要走步上籃還是
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傳外圍作收
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每次低位都在走步 去學學KB的腳步好嗎
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打了10幾年 腳步還這樣醜陋拙劣 自稱地表最強 呵呵
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腿迷哭哭。好可憐喔嗚嗚
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2F 好強XD
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最強籃球員?
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看現場才準replay center根本搞笑 腿迷看最準
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圖太好笑啦~
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奧運LBJ有常被吹走步嗎? 如果有的話就好笑了
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奧運走步王不是某科嗎?
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拿奧運被吹幾次走步跟我們看NBA比賽看到的諸多事證
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有何關聯?
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救援王登場!
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2F XD
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其實用手推人那句雖然不明顯但也有可能是在酸LBJ
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姆斯如果拿掉走步和出拐真的很弱 估計坦克上籃就此
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絕跡
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只有NBA對走步這麼寬容
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2F圖讓我大笑
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腿迷:LBJ低位進步很多捏 酸酸不懂不要亂講
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影片到底是怎樣視差會讓人軸心腳換來換去沒下球?
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他進攻出手推開AI已經到了反正裁判不會吹不推白不
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推的地步了,整場一直推一直推
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太空漫步?
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姆斯的低位沒軸心腳 是他的合體技推人加走步
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二樓的圖太好笑了 XD
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我雖然不喜歡老大 但以低位來說腳步真的比LBJ好
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LBJ低位時小碎步一大堆 都不知走幾步了
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我一直很喜歡那句話,謠言止於智者
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所以這一定不是謠言
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LBJ碰到比較強的對抗時就容易腳步不乾淨
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奧運大概沒幾個這樣的人就是了
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2f XD
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不用奧運,全世界打籃球也沒像nba對LBJ這麼寬容
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LBJ的進攻真的很愛用手推,狠一點還直接肘擊...
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有nike挺啊
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走步走的那麼明顯...要拱LBJ也不是這樣
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批評姆斯基礎超爛 天天走步 還紅翻天就因為他是巨星
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NBA已經墮落了
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不只走步,偷推防守者一堆
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腿迷護主心切 各種不利腿詹的都能無視的
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走步詹
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跳針 找救援 無視 各種技能滿點
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以後的國中生打球都學他匿蹤走步
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他不是很喜歡這樣說球員嗎
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還有Nash運球都翻球
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找Nash救援囉
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現在的球員都不去做掩護——他們是用手在推別人
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走步絕殺巫師,走十年了
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聯盟第一人?地表最強????
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連基本功都不練的人 一推腿迷捧成這樣
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整天想當投機客抱腿
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2FXD NBA走步王 腿詹
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That's how he traveled from Miami back to Clevel
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and 美國鄉民真酸
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腿迷崩潰中不要吵 晚點就出來了
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走不就承認嘛 很難?
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達拉一直在要走步違例~XD
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