[外絮] Lin & 老大 兩個不同Style的衝突

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原文:http://ppt.cc/odWK On paper, everything about Jeremy Lin becoming a Laker seemed to make sense. Lin was returning to his home state to play for the world’s most popular basketball team. He was joining a team that desperately needed his services as a play-making point guard. He would be lacing up next to the greatest player in Lakers history, one who was ready to mentor his successors. 理論上,林的到來讓湖人的一切看起來很合理。 林回到了一個不只是他的家鄉而且是世界上最有名的籃球隊(沒有之一!) 他加入了一個極度需要有能力運行戰術的控球的球隊。 他將和湖人隊史上最棒並且也準備好要開始指導繼承者的球員一起打球 Little about this season, though, has been perfect for Kobe Bryant and Jeremy Lin. 是的,原本Kobe和林的2014-15球季是如此美好的 At their bests, both Lin and Bryant succeed at playing with the ball in their hands. Naturally, this has created issues with the duo on the court. Bryant and his dominant personality has dwarfed Lin and his passiveness. Despite Bryant’s urging both on and off the court, Lin has been unable to find a constant groove with the roster this season. 兩個人在場上都是需要持球的球員 這也造成了湖人雙核心的一些問題 老大的霸氣性格讓林顯得渺小了 先不論老大在場上或場下的狀況如何 林在本季配合湖人的陣容上確實是無法找到穩定的表現 Maybe part of it is due to a lack of time together. During training camp, it was Nash practicing with the first team offense and Lin coming off the bench. Late in the preseason is when Lin was thrust into the starting role, leaving him little time to get familiar with his fellow starters. 可能原因之一就是不夠時間磨合 原本排定是Nash先發 林替補 但在接近開季的時候 林卻成了先發 對於與先發球員的磨合 這樣的時間是不夠的 Lin has not done himself any favors with his inconsistent play this year. He has five games under 10 points and four games over 15 points, a sign of his inconsistency. For advanced stats folks, according to basketball-reference, he has nearly as many games with a game score above 10.0 (seven) as he does games with a game score below 10.0 (six). 林今年的表現是不一致的 他有五場 得分<10 以及4場 得分>15的比賽 更進階的數據 以 Game Score這個數據看來 他是有7場>10 六場<10 10分在game score中是平均表現的代表分數 ※GmSc (這邊就不翻了 應該很好懂) PTS + 0.4 * FG - 0.7 * FGA - 0.4*(FTA - FT) + 0.7 * ORB + 0.3 * DRB + STL + 0.7 * AST + 0.7 * BLK - 0.4 * PF - TOV. Game Score was created by John Hollinger to give a rough measure of a player's productivity for a single game. The scale is similar to that of points scored, (40 is an outstanding performance, 10 is an average performance, etc.). Still, Bryant hasn’t helped the issue as much as he might say. Seven times this year, he’s attempted 25 or more shots, a number far too high if he’s looking to get his teammates involved. In fact, in Lin’s six worst games, Bryant averages 28.2 field goal attempts a game. 而老大 更是有七次嘗試超過25次射籃 如果想讓隊友加入進攻的話 25次確實太多 跟林相關的部分 林六場Game Score數據低於10分的糟糕比賽中 老大平均投籃次數超過28次 Lin has a lot of promise. He’s just 26 years old and has many years in the league in front of him. However, if he and Bryant can’t find a way to mesh instead of clash, his time in LA will be numbered. 林有大好前途 如果他和老大無法找到共存方式 那他在LA的日子將屈指可數 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 219.71.37.111 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/NBA/M.1416787633.A.C64.html

11/24 08:12, , 1F
問題是,與老大共存的後衛記得不需要真的很突出
11/24 08:12, 1F

11/24 08:13, , 2F
林要大量持球 還想跟老大共處...
11/24 08:13, 2F

11/24 08:13, , 3F
真慘 不管去哪隊都遇到這問題
11/24 08:13, 3F

11/24 08:14, , 4F
看看 fisher 小黑 林還不知道自己要幹嘛?
11/24 08:14, 4F

11/24 08:14, , 5F
問題是老大已經不是當年那個不需要控衛的老大了
11/24 08:14, 5F

11/24 08:15, , 6F
Lin讓球給老大射 輸球領繩
11/24 08:15, 6F

11/24 08:16, , 7F
應該說 老大口嫌體正直 心裡想傳 但身體卻傳不出去!
11/24 08:16, 7F

11/24 08:17, , 8F
跟我之前分析的差不多,林要有表現老大應該減少出手
11/24 08:17, 8F

11/24 08:17, , 9F
問題是以現在的湖人,老大應該會選擇自幹..
11/24 08:17, 9F

11/24 08:18, , 10F
跟老大的共存方式不就是變成老魚嗎
11/24 08:18, 10F

11/24 08:18, , 11F
老大可能頭腦懂,無奈身體沒辦法改,年紀都大了
11/24 08:18, 11F

11/24 08:19, , 12F
說不夠時間磨合太牽強了吧 難道練球時分開練?
11/24 08:19, 12F
意思接近分隊練 先發替補各一隊 可能是林跟先發這一隊練的太少

11/24 08:19, , 13F
你再讓他投300分就會分享了啦 其他無解
11/24 08:19, 13F

11/24 08:20, , 14F
Kobe覺得被包夾的時候傳球就是示弱,這改不了的
11/24 08:20, 14F

11/24 08:21, , 15F
老大應該休息幾場 看看湖人會怎麼樣
11/24 08:21, 15F
※ 編輯: v91603wup (219.71.37.111), 11/24/2014 08:25:13

11/24 08:24, , 16F
老大休息 湖人林來瘋再起 該怎麼辦? 不要讓kobe不開
11/24 08:24, 16F

11/24 08:24, , 17F
心好嗎?
11/24 08:24, 17F

11/24 08:26, , 18F
以這季老大令人高潮的表現 什麼後衛都差不多吧XD
11/24 08:26, 18F

11/24 08:27, , 19F
林也不需持球 空手跑也不錯 不過很少人會傳給他
11/24 08:27, 19F

11/24 08:27, , 20F
林來瘋再起可能也沒大用,湖人禁區太弱,Kobe的火力還
11/24 08:27, 20F

11/24 08:28, , 21F
是很重要,問題在出手選擇與團隊配合
11/24 08:28, 21F

11/24 08:28, , 22F
你們知道LIN到11/4才跟先發合練嗎? 10月根本沒配過
11/24 08:28, 22F

11/24 08:29, , 23F
林來瘋再起勒 有夢最美
11/24 08:29, 23F

11/24 08:29, , 24F
目前看來,有kobe在的球隊就是搶狀元,配合不配合無
11/24 08:29, 24F

11/24 08:29, , 25F
所謂。
11/24 08:29, 25F

11/24 08:29, , 26F
本來就是老大的球隊 自己要去適應老大
11/24 08:29, 26F

11/24 08:30, , 27F
林今天會先發嗎?
11/24 08:30, 27F

11/24 08:30, , 28F
KOBE一拿到球就忘了自己曾經說過什麼惹...
11/24 08:30, 28F

11/24 08:30, , 29F
目前聯盟夠膽跟Kobe霸球的,起碼要西河軟豆等級
11/24 08:30, 29F

11/24 08:33, , 30F
哦~現在是說磨合不夠啊~那就等下半季看看囉
11/24 08:33, 30F

11/24 08:38, , 31F
湖人還是要先解決紙糊防守 不先解決 不管有沒有老
11/24 08:38, 31F

11/24 08:38, , 32F
大都只是爛與更爛的差別而已 Cuban:希望他們永遠爛
11/24 08:38, 32F

11/24 08:50, , 33F
為什麼永遠在檢討球權 而不是防守 不懂
11/24 08:50, 33F

11/24 08:51, , 34F
先別說林連nash這種等級的控衛都是打不好 我不相信k
11/24 08:51, 34F

11/24 08:51, , 35F
obe掌握大部分球權會沒有影響
11/24 08:51, 35F

11/24 08:52, , 36F
Nash跟Kobe配都變成跑龍套了,何況其他控衛?
11/24 08:52, 36F

11/24 08:53, , 37F
研究2015選秀吧
11/24 08:53, 37F

11/24 08:53, , 38F
老大可以不用降低持球時間 但要降低出手次數
11/24 08:53, 38F

11/24 08:57, , 39F
老大一場上35+ 怎麼錯開
11/24 08:57, 39F

11/24 09:00, , 40F
連歐肥在老大不都不鳥了會鳥你
11/24 09:00, 40F

11/24 09:04, , 41F
在為降替補鋪梗
11/24 09:04, 41F

11/24 09:06, , 42F
無敵歐肥都被搶球了,其他人洗洗睡吧
11/24 09:06, 42F

11/24 09:06, , 43F
老大持球時還是沒有改變 太多不合理的投籃
11/24 09:06, 43F

11/24 09:06, , 44F
不過也常常投進就是了
11/24 09:06, 44F

11/24 09:07, , 45F
要降替補除非找其他PG來
11/24 09:07, 45F

11/24 09:09, , 46F
Nash變龍套?用寫輪眼看的嗎?
11/24 09:09, 46F

11/24 09:10, , 47F
看看NASH來湖人後的成績就可以知道了 人家可是MVP~~
11/24 09:10, 47F

11/24 09:11, , 48F
馬龍來擋人老大都叫他滾了 他會理我Lin?
11/24 09:11, 48F

11/24 09:12, , 49F
防守爛非一朝一夕能改變
11/24 09:12, 49F

11/24 09:15, , 50F
我湖要坦的態勢越來越明確,也是讓老大任意的原因。
11/24 09:15, 50F

11/24 09:16, , 51F
NASH數據下降雖然跟KOBE有關,但主因是受傷吧
11/24 09:16, 51F

11/24 09:18, , 52F
這季感覺可以和0506做比較 林就是黃色的smush parke
11/24 09:18, 52F

11/24 09:18, , 53F
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11/24 09:18, 53F

11/24 09:22, , 54F
sk大 你想這些要酸的 有幾個有在看湖人打球的XD
11/24 09:22, 54F

11/24 09:35, , 55F
等KOBE分數超越老喬吧..
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11/24 09:35, , 56F
當年kobe可以取代控衛功能 現在真的不行了
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11/24 09:40, , 57F
林就是你愛投就都給你投
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11/24 09:41, , 58F
前年有F4打那種成績,現在這陣容剛好而已
11/24 09:41, 58F

11/24 09:42, , 59F
配的還是年輕兩歲沒斷過腿的老大
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11/24 12:36, , 60F
老大不倒 書豪不會好
11/24 12:36, 60F
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