Re: [問題] 問【龍型態】在雙頭巨人的規則問題

看板Magic作者 (tquendi)時間15年前 (2010/06/18 22:26), 編輯推噓1(102)
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※ 引述《tquendi (tquendi)》之銘言: : 標題: [問題] 問【龍型態】在雙頭巨人的規則問題 : 時間: Tue May 25 19:19:39 2010 不好意思只是單純討論一下規則的部份。 最近有空翻了翻規則的部份。 =========================================================================== 下面這部份是關於在雙頭巨人戰中,攻擊防守方玩家的定義。 806.8b Any one-shot effect that refers to the "defending player" refers to one specific defending player, not to both of the defending players. The controller of the effect chooses which one the spell or ability refers to at the time the effect is applied. The same is true for any one-shot effect that refers to the "attacking player." Any characteristic-defining ability that refers to the"defending player" refers to one specific defending player, not to both of the defending players. The controller of the object with the characteristic-defining ability chooses which one the ability refers to at the time the nonactive players become defending players. All other cases in which the "defending player" is referred to actually refer to both defending players. If the reference involves a positive comparison (such as asking whether the defending player controls an Island) or a relative comparison (such as asking whether you control more creatures than the defending player), it gets only one answer. This answer is "yes" if either defending player in the comparison would return a "yes" answer if compared individually. If the reference involves a negative comparison (such as asking whether the defending player controls no black permanents), it also gets only one answer. This answer is "yes" if performing the analogous positive comparison would return a "no" answer. The same is true for all other cases that refer to the "attacking player." 寫的落落長,沒誤解的話大致上的意思就是。 進攻的那組所有玩家都是攻擊玩家,被攻擊的那組都是防守玩家。 只要是有一個異能或是效應在指定描述攻擊或是防守玩家的時候, 效應只會取其中一個人生效。 但是其他不是效應指定的所有情況下,防守玩家就表示守方所有的玩家。 這時候效應是以邏輯檢定為準。只要對其中一個玩家的邏輯判斷成立 整個效應就視為成立。 舉例來說,海島行者的能力是"假如防守玩家控制一個海島,就XXXXX" 只要防守玩家其中一個人操控海島,那麼海島行者的攻擊就不能被阻擋。 同哩,如果效應的邏輯檢定是以負面表述也是相同的道理。 =========================================================================== 第二個部份,在雙頭巨人的的宣告攻擊。 806.8c As the declare attackers step begins, the active team declares attackers. If an effect of an object controlled by a defending player prohibits a creature from attacking him or her, that creature can't attack the defending team. The active team has one combined attack, and that set of attacking creatures must be legal as a whole. See rule 508.1. Example: One player in a Two-Headed Giant game controls Teferi's Moat, which says "As Teferi's Moat comes into play, choose a color." and "Creatures of the chosen color without flying can't attack you. " Creatures of the chosen color without flying can't attack that player's team. 當宣告攻擊的時候,假如有一個效應禁止了生物攻擊其中一個玩家。 那麼這個生物就不可以攻擊整個防守隊伍。 因為攻擊方視為整群,攻擊生物的宣告必須完全合法。 例如,防守方下個泰菲利的壕溝。他禁止了其中一個顏色的不會飛生物 攻擊這個結界的擁有者。那麼,只要是被選擇顏色的不會飛的生物就不能 對這個玩家所屬的隊伍進攻。 =========================================================================== 因此在龍型態這張牌來說,只要雙頭巨人賽中出了這張牌。 整個隊伍的血量會被定為5(見上一篇的討論),但是就生物的宣告攻擊來說 不會飛的生物將不能攻擊整個擁有龍型態在場上的隊伍。 有錯誤還請指正。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 110.24.82.85

06/19 10:06, , 1F
應該沒錯。
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06/19 10:06, , 2F
怪異的是"comparison"這個單字只有出現在這裡跟split
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06/19 10:07, , 3F
card的規則內文裡面= =,想查進一步的敘述也找不到QQ
06/19 10:07, 3F
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