Fw: [閒聊] 看看國外作家眼中的大王

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※ [本文轉錄自 Baseball 看板 #1QVeEPfd ] 作者: Brownson (夯ㄟ~!) 看板: Baseball 標題: [閒聊] 來看看國外作家眼中的大王吧 時間: Sat Feb 10 13:30:59 2018 昨天在Fangraphs看到有作家撰文介紹可挑戰MLB的亞洲選手,赫然發現我們的大王 也被列入討論啦,小弟擷取當中對王柏融的介紹,翻成簡略的中文,來讓大家瞧瞧 歪國人眼中的大王是長什麼樣子 Po-Jung Wang, OF, Lamigo Monkeys he Chinese Professional Baseball League (CPBL) is not covered as thoroughly in the US anywhere near to the degree of the NPB or KBO. In recent years, many of the circuit’s top amateur players have signed directly with the MLB teams instead of going to the CPBL because of league-wide instability that has resulted from a series of game-fixing scandals. As a result of fiasco, the CPBL has reduced to four clubs total and lost out on many amateur talents to MLB — but it is still checked and scouted. Recently, after the 2015 season, the San Diego Padres were interested in the top infielder Chih-Sheng Lin; however, due to the posting fee and Lin’s age (he was then 33 years old), it didn’t happen. 中華職棒在美國受關注的程度並不及於日職或韓職。近年來,許多頂尖球員甚至因為屢屢 傳出打假球的事件而直接跳過中華職棒,直接與美國簽約。這導致了中華職棒從六隊萎縮 到四隊之外,國內的選秀人才也青黃不接。但這不代表我們職棒好手的表現就不在國外球 探的雷達中。最近一例就是林智勝,他在2015年後受到聖地牙哥教士的關注。但因為他年 紀太大以及入札費用的關係而無疾而終。 (當年大師兄打出了"333" - 0.300/30HR/30SB的成績,但那時已33歲) However, there is a talent who took the CPBL by storms by putting up video-game numbers: Po-Jung Wang. (His name is pronounced closer to “Bo-Rong Wang,” but is spelled using the “Wade-Giles system,” which is one of the four ways to romanize Chinese characters.) Wang hit an eye-popping .407/.491/.700 in 115 games in 2017, winning the quadruple crown (average, hit, home run, RBI) — and, of course, the league MVP. 然而,現在有個天才在中職打出了電動般的成績而颳起了一陣旋風,他就是 - 王柏融。 王柏融在2017年的115場例行賽中,打出了0.407/0.491/0.700的怪物成績,洗榜了打擊、 安打、全壘打、打點王等。當然,還有中華職棒年度MVP。 *原文作者有列出大王進入中職之後的成績 出賽 打席數 打擊三圍 全壘打 備註 2015 29 122 0.324/0.377/0.640 9 2016 116 550 0.414/0.476/0.689 29 新人王+MVP 2017 115 517 0.407/0.491/0.700 31 MVP Sure, it is true that the CPBL is quite offensively inclined. There are many reasons for that — a number of talented positional players, a lack of talented pitchers, a shrinking strike zone, and juiced balls — and it makes you wonder how Wang would adjust if he were to head to the NPB or MLB. However, there’s no doubt that the 24-year-old is talented. Here is Wang taking the aforementioned Takahiro Norimoto deep over the center-field wall during an international match: 事實上,CPBL是個打擊聯盟,包含很多原因:許多有天分的選手(這邊應該是指野手)、 一堆沒天分的投手,小如A4的好球帶,還有弓單力球。這些外在因素會讓你想知道, 王柏融如果要去日職、甚至美職,他會要做出什麼樣的調整。但是,我們還是不需要懷疑 這位年僅24歲選手的資質。先送上一場比賽,大王在中日對抗賽中將前面介紹過的, 日職樂天王牌則本昂大的球幹到中外野大牆外。 (編按,因為這篇文章主軸是介紹有機會挑戰美國的亞洲選手,則本已經在前面被介紹過 了) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCvRo7atI7I
(39秒處開始) Former Royals and White Sox reliever Andy Sisco, who has pitched around the globe (Mexico, Korea, Taiwan, Dominican Republic), is quoted at the CPBL English site as saying that Wang “definitely projects as a major league player.” Continues Sisco: “He hits for power, he hits to all fields, he can hit a good fastball. He’s not a guy who can be overpowered.” Wang also garnered some attention from the American media in 2017 by unleashing one of the most awesome and flamboyant bat flips humanity has ever seen. 引述自CPBL English網站,希克對大王的描述。待過皇家與白襪的前中職投手希克,他在 國外聯盟有著豐富的比賽經驗。他稱讚大王是個可以長成MLB等級的選手。希克又說到, 他的打擊充滿力量、他能把球打到任何地方,他很會攻擊快速球。他不是一個可以 被壓制的人!大王也受到了美國媒體的關注,原因是因為在去年的比賽中, 他開轟後的超狂甩棒。 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfWXQszVXT4
An international scout told me he sees potential in Wang to succeed in the NPB/MLB but that he has to fix some flaws, saying, “He has holes in his swing that make him vulnerable to inside pitches in the next level.” This evaluator added that Wang’s glove isn’t anything special, meaning “he’s pretty much stuck in the corner-outfield slots.” 一個國際球探告訴我他看到了王柏融會在日職或美職成功的潛力。但他需要修正一些小瑕 疵。他的揮棒有點問題,這讓他在面對更高層級的比賽中,容易被內角球所壓制。該員還 補充,王的手套(意指守備)並沒有特別之處,這意味著他未來就是個角落外野手。 Due to a recent rule change in the CPBL, players are eligible to explore going international after three years of service time and with their club’s permission (including posting fee). Wang now has two seasons under his belt, so hypothetically, he could head elsewhere after the 2018 season. According to a person with knowledge of the situation, the Athletics, Diamondbacks, Pirates, and Reds have had scouts to see Wang, though it seems likely that Wang will go to Japan first before challenging himself to go to the MLB. There is plenty of NPB interest in him, meanwhile. Wang himself has said that, ultimately, he’d like to go to the MLB but would not mind stopping by the NPB before it happens. 因為近年來中華職棒規則的改變,球員只要打滿三年且獲得母隊的同意,即取得旅外的資 格(包含通過入札制度)。大王已經待了兩年,假設他在今年球季後可以旅外,他可能在 挑戰MLB前先去日本職棒打拼,雖然運動家、響尾蛇、海盜、紅人,這些球隊都有派球探 觀察大王。在此同時,王柏融自己也說過,他不介意在去美職前先去日職過個水。 當然,他最終的目標還是,太平洋的另一端。 本文出處:The Top MLB Prospects of Asia https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-top-mlb-prospects-of-asia/ 小弟英文不好,只能努力翻出來讓大家討論看看,若有問題或是錯誤,再請大家指正一下 感激不進 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.224.207.84 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Baseball/M.1518240665.A.A67.html

02/10 13:32, 6年前 , 1F
謝謝翻譯
02/10 13:32, 1F

02/10 13:33, 6年前 , 2F
優文
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※ 編輯: Brownson (36.224.207.84), 02/10/2018 13:34:54

02/10 13:35, 6年前 , 3F
推翻譯
02/10 13:35, 3F

02/10 13:35, 6年前 , 4F
juiced balls !!!
02/10 13:35, 4F
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: Brownson (36.224.207.84), 02/10/2018 13:36:30

02/10 13:37, 6年前 , 5F
雖然這篇文章我只擷取了王柏融,但我認為中華職棒已
02/10 13:37, 5F

02/10 13:37, 6年前 , 6F
很久沒出現過讓大聯盟這麼感興趣的本土選手,所以翻出來
02/10 13:37, 6F

02/10 13:38, 6年前 , 7F
讓大家討論一下,若版主認為這篇不符本版討論,我再刪文
02/10 13:38, 7F

02/10 13:38, 6年前 , 8F
謝謝
02/10 13:38, 8F

02/10 13:42, 6年前 , 9F
翻譯:雜魚
02/10 13:42, 9F

02/10 13:43, 6年前 , 10F
雷哥預言:王柏融會是中職史上首位外銷MLB的野手
02/10 13:43, 10F

02/10 13:47, 6年前 , 11F
Position player就是指野手
02/10 13:47, 11F

02/10 13:58, 6年前 , 12F
角落"外"野手
02/10 13:58, 12F

02/10 14:07, 6年前 , 13F
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02/10 14:41, 6年前 , 14F
推!真心認為大王有機會站穩MLB
02/10 14:41, 14F
※ 編輯: Brownson (36.224.207.84), 02/10/2018 14:44:13

02/10 15:25, 6年前 , 15F
期待他去美國看看
02/10 15:25, 15F

02/10 15:27, 6年前 , 16F
有雷哥加持看來大王只止於日職
02/10 15:27, 16F

02/10 15:30, 6年前 , 17F
雷哥加持,看來只能在太平洋西岸了
02/10 15:30, 17F

02/10 15:42, 6年前 , 18F
這評價正面啊 最差應該至少有雜魚 好的話能站先發
02/10 15:42, 18F

02/10 15:47, 6年前 , 19F
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02/10 15:54, 6年前 , 20F
推 希望大王旅外有好發展
02/10 15:54, 20F

02/10 16:58, 6年前 , 21F
雷哥是mlb524嗎XD
02/10 16:58, 21F

02/10 17:39, 6年前 , 22F
push
02/10 17:39, 22F

02/10 17:56, 6年前 , 23F
國際認證彈力球
02/10 17:56, 23F

02/10 18:23, 6年前 , 24F
推大王
02/10 18:23, 24F

02/10 18:23, 6年前 , 25F
A4好球帶XD 中職領先全球
02/10 18:23, 25F

02/10 18:28, 6年前 , 26F
我怎麼覺得中職的好球帶蠻大的XD
02/10 18:28, 26F

02/10 18:53, 6年前 , 27F
大王先闖大聯盟吧
02/10 18:53, 27F

02/10 19:04, 6年前 , 28F
不介意在去美職前先去日職過個水……口氣很大
02/10 19:04, 28F

02/10 19:37, 6年前 , 29F
雷哥久違的不嗆人 居然被當成反指標了 XDDDDDDD
02/10 19:37, 29F

02/10 19:57, 6年前 , 30F
彈力球方面到MLB應該可以快速適應
02/10 19:57, 30F

02/10 20:47, 6年前 , 31F
不要只以有先發而滿足,畢竟大王也不年輕了,看看人家Trou
02/10 20:47, 31F

02/10 20:47, 6年前 , 32F
t 26歲都拿2座MVP了,Aaron judge 25歲也當過MVP #2。希
02/10 20:47, 32F

02/10 20:47, 6年前 , 33F
望大王能以這些人為榜樣替CPBL出一口氣
02/10 20:47, 33F

02/10 21:54, 6年前 , 34F
XD
02/10 21:54, 34F

02/10 21:55, 6年前 , 35F
感謝 翻 推
02/10 21:55, 35F

02/11 00:11, 6年前 , 36F
真心希望他能站穩日職然後去大聯盟挑戰看看自己
02/11 00:11, 36F

02/11 05:38, 6年前 , 37F
直接去大聯盟了別去2A鳥打聯盟浪費時間
02/11 05:38, 37F

02/11 06:48, 6年前 , 38F
直接從2A起步比較實在
02/11 06:48, 38F

02/11 07:09, 6年前 , 39F
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
02/11 07:09, 39F

02/11 08:15, 6年前 , 40F
去MLB成績至少打半折吧
02/11 08:15, 40F

02/11 09:07, 6年前 , 41F
沒天份的投手XD
02/11 09:07, 41F

02/11 10:11, 6年前 , 42F
直接來美職挑戰 何必過水日職
02/11 10:11, 42F

02/11 10:23, 6年前 , 43F
juiced balls
02/11 10:23, 43F

02/11 13:21, 6年前 , 44F
大概升不上大聯盟
02/11 13:21, 44F

02/11 13:41, 6年前 , 45F
push
02/11 13:41, 45F

02/11 17:50, 6年前 , 46F
pc大應該不是認真的吧哈哈哈哈那是替地球人出一口氣了
02/11 17:50, 46F

02/11 18:15, 6年前 , 47F
角落普通守備的外野手 那你打擊數據要比鱒魚還亮眼,,,,,,
02/11 18:15, 47F

02/11 18:29, 6年前 , 48F
先去日職不錯啊,先賺點生活費
02/11 18:29, 48F

02/11 20:50, 6年前 , 49F
02/11 20:50, 49F

02/11 23:38, 6年前 , 50F
去日本跟去2A的差別在錢
02/11 23:38, 50F

02/12 01:12, 6年前 , 51F
高階1A一定沒問題 2A應該會適應的很辛苦
02/12 01:12, 51F

02/12 08:57, 6年前 , 52F
02/12 08:57, 52F

02/12 09:43, 6年前 , 53F
打擊數據要比鱒魚亮眼? 先期待能站穩吧XD
02/12 09:43, 53F

02/12 12:51, 6年前 , 54F
MLB幾個人打擊可以比Trout亮眼的?
02/12 12:51, 54F

02/12 15:06, 6年前 , 55F
一堆打擊成績不如鱒魚守備也的corner OF活得好好的
02/12 15:06, 55F

02/12 15:06, 6年前 , 56F
守備也普
02/12 15:06, 56F

02/12 15:06, 6年前 , 57F
拿鱒魚當標準是不是搞錯了什麼?
02/12 15:06, 57F

02/12 16:06, 6年前 , 58F
拿鱒魚當標準的確是搞錯了,依我看,大王四成打擊率
02/12 16:06, 58F

02/12 16:06, 6年前 , 59F
又是左打OF,標準應該是打擊之神-Ted Williams還差不多
02/12 16:06, 59F

02/12 22:27, 6年前 , 60F
push
02/12 22:27, 60F
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