[外電] 日職洋將談大谷翔平(1)

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For Ex-Big Leaguers in Japan, Ohtani A Special But Not Invincible Talent December 08, 2017 By Kyle Glaser 原文發表於Baseball America. https://goo.gl/CF1Rr2 The recruitment of Shohei Otani has reached a fever pitch. 招募大谷翔平這件事已經快要接近狂熱的地步了。 Every rumor and emerging detail, no matter how minute, is treated as headline news. Hopeful fan bases have begun changing their Twitter handles to include Ohtani's name. Teams are making specific—and largely unprecedented— maneuvers for international bonus pool space for the sole purpose of sweetening their offers to him. 每一條留言與新的細節,不論在哪一刻,都被當作頭條新聞。充滿希望的球迷們開始把 他們的推特名稱(按:handle,即為@後面那一串字)加入大谷的名字。球隊為國際球員簽 約金額度使出各種獨有--且史無前例的--花招,只為了能提高給他的合約金額。 Ohtani, the 102-mph throwing, 500-foot home run hitting, 23-year-old Japanese wunderkind has been hailed as the best player in the world, a modern reincarnation of Babe Ruth and the possible savior of downtrodden franchises. 大谷翔平,這名能投出102英哩速球,擊出500英呎全壘打的23歲日本神童,被稱為是世 界上最好的棒球員,貝比魯斯再世,以及爛隊的救世主。 It's quite the reputation, and one that has prompted the question "How good is Ohtani, really, and how much of it is hype?" 這樣的評價,不禁激起下面的疑問:"大谷翔平真的有那麼好嗎? 其中有多少過譽的成分?" One demographic is uniquely suited to answer that: Ex-major leaguers who played against Ohtani in Japan. 某一群人特別適合能回答這個問題: 在日本對戰過大谷的前大聯盟球員。 "I see the appeal," said Dennis Sarfate, a reliever who pitched parts of four seasons in the majors and won the Japanese Pacific League MVP award in 2017. "I've said it from day one, this guy is going to be a superstar, and he is that good." "我看得出來(大谷)吸引人的地方在哪。"沙發鐵說道。這名中繼投手曾在大聯盟出賽四個 球季,並獲得2017年日職太平洋聯盟MVP。 "我從一開始就知道,這個人會成為超級巨星,他就是這麼讚。" Those with major league experience who have faced Ohtani widely see a player who is major league caliber and a special talent, but also one who has flaws and weaknesses in his game, like everybody else. 這些對決過大谷的大聯盟選手普遍認為他是大聯盟等級的,而且有著特殊的天賦。但同時 也與其他人一樣,有著缺陷與弱點。 Stefen Romero, an outfielder who played parts of three seasons for the Mariners before joining Orix in the JPPL for 2017, was one of the few to actually face Ohtani on the mound this year. Ohtani made only five starts due to an ankle injury that required surgery in October. 羅梅洛,這位在2017年加入歐力士隊前曾在水手隊待過三個球季的外野手,是其中少數幾 位今年對戰過大谷的選手。大谷今年因為踝傷僅僅先發五場比賽。 When Romero faced Ohtani, he struck out swinging. 羅梅洛被大谷三振了。 "I fouled off some good fastballs, 98-100 (mph)," Romero said, "and he just threw a devastating forkball in the dirt. "我把幾個很不錯,大約98到100英里的速球打成界外。"他說 "然後他丟出一顆掉到地上且極具破壞力的指叉球。" "He's not your everyday Japanese player. He's 6-foot-5, 6-6 and he's huge. When you see him on the mound it's just so smooth and effortless and it just comes out….He doesn't throw 100 all the time. Throughout the game he'll be like 93-94, and then when he wants to he'll go 100, 100, 100." "他不是那種典型的日本選手。他有6呎5、6呎6,身材也很高大。他在投手丘上非常流暢 而且很輕鬆就投出了,他不會一直丟100(英里),整場比賽下來,大致上會是93到94,然 後當需要的時候,100,100,100就接連來了。" Ohtani's premium velocity has long been a main selling point. However, from a hitter's perspective, it's not Ohtani's fastball that necessarily separates him. 大谷的頂級球速一直是他的賣點之一,然而在打者眼中,他突出的部分並不必然是他的速 球。 "His fastball is hittable," Romero said. "I feel like it's hittable to American players because it's straight, there's not a lot of movement. It's hard, but it is straight. It's more of like an overhand, three-quarter arm slot so it's not too difficult to pick up. But it's his offspeed pitches that he can throw for strikes and have the same arm slot and arm speed with that will get you in trouble. His forkball, it looks just like a fastball but it drops two feet straight down. It starts at your thigh and looks just like a 100-mph fastball and then it just drops two feet into the dirt. His offspeed stuff is pretty legit." "他的速球並不是完全打不到的。"羅梅洛說 "我覺得對美洲打者而言是打得到的,因為(速球)很直,沒什麼位移。很快沒錯,但是也 很直,就像是一般上肩或3/4出手,所以並不難跟到。但是他的變化球就能為你帶來麻煩 ,因為他不但能投進來,還有(跟速球)一樣的出手點跟揮臂速度。他的指叉球剛開始看 起來跟直球沒兩樣,最後垂直下墜兩英尺。一開始高度在大腿附近,就像那顆100英里的 快速球,接著下墜整整兩英尺掉到地上。他的變化球真的有夠猛的。" Ohtani's complete arsenal, officially, is a fastball, slider, forkball, changeup and curveball. Those who faced him note he really only throws this fastball, slider and forkball, with the other two offerings rarely used. 大谷的武器球官方說法有速球、滑球、指叉球、變速球跟曲球。對戰過他的人指出他真 正只會投速球、滑球跟指叉球,剩下的球種很少使用。 All three of Ohtani's main offerings—fastball, slider and forkball—draw plus or better grades from evaluators. At the same time, like many other 23-year-olds, he still has progress to make with his consistency and sequencing. 大谷的三種主要球種都獲得plus或以上的評價。同時,就跟其他23歲球員一樣,在穩定 性與投球策略上還有進步空間。 "Sometimes he thinks too much," Sarfate said. "It's like 'Hey, you throw 100, stop throwing offspeed.' I mean I've seen him throw as many as seven breaking balls in a row. "有時候他會想太多。"沙發鐵說 "嘿,你有100英里的速球耶,別一直丟變化球了。我的意思是我曾經看他連丟七顆變化 球過。" "He doesn't have great command," added Sarfate, who has played against Ohtani in the JPPL since 2013. "Everyone thinks his command is good, but I've seen him walk three, four guys in a row and it's because he gets out of sync because he throws so many breaking balls…. If he got a catcher that was around for a while and they could actually guide him through it, I think he would eventually be really good." "他的控球還不到最好。"沙發鐵補充 "大家都覺得他的控球很好,但我曾經看過他連續保送三、四個人,就是因為他丟太多變 化球,所以才走鐘了。如果他能搭配有經驗而且能力引導他度過難關的捕手,我想他最後 會變得相當優秀。" (待續) -- HEY~~~HEY~~~CHAAAAARLIE~!   。。。。。 ⊙ . ▼▼▼▼ \▲▲▲▲ φ . \ . δ ./ㄨ \\/ˊ▄▄ \|/ㄑ ( ︶ ˋ\///\/. by Armour@joke -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.112.218.174 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1512753807.A.698.html

12/09 01:31, 6年前 , 1F
去水兵準沒錯,中鬼會教你「直球塞進去就對了」
12/09 01:31, 1F

12/09 01:32, 6年前 , 2F
大谷直球尾勁質疑再起!樓下怎麼看?
12/09 01:32, 2F

12/09 01:32, 6年前 , 3F
他的直球不會跑之前就有打過的人說過
12/09 01:32, 3F

12/09 01:35, 6年前 , 4F
兩吋的位移…我還以為是吾郎
12/09 01:35, 4F
抱歉,是兩英呎(foot)的垂直位移 ※ 編輯: whalelover (140.112.218.174), 12/09/2017 01:36:56

12/09 01:37, 6年前 , 5F
大野(火腿正捕)喜歡配滑球給他 而大谷滑球狀況好時的確超
12/09 01:37, 5F

12/09 01:37, 6年前 , 6F
殺;直球毛病就是拿不到三振,會一直被卡出去
12/09 01:37, 6F

12/09 01:38, 6年前 , 7F
然後謝謝ロメロ <3
12/09 01:38, 7F

12/09 02:03, 6年前 , 8F
最重要的明明是大谷便宜到爆
12/09 02:03, 8F

12/09 02:42, 6年前 , 9F
他直球的問題日本以前也有人在講
12/09 02:42, 9F

12/09 02:55, 6年前 , 10F
100麥 小聯盟薪水 長時間控制 沒興趣是棒槌
12/09 02:55, 10F

12/09 08:06, 6年前 , 11F
大谷155+控球蠻差的 跟自己150的球比
12/09 08:06, 11F

12/09 10:04, 6年前 , 12F
日本投手不太投二縫線 所以幾乎直球都很直
12/09 10:04, 12F

12/09 10:17, 6年前 , 13F
大谷直球控球沒到差,只是偶爾某一局會亂流而已
12/09 10:17, 13F

12/09 10:18, 6年前 , 14F
大谷的控球平均水準沒問題
12/09 10:18, 14F

12/09 10:43, 6年前 , 15F
其實four seam 用高壓投法,真的不怎麼會跑啊~
12/09 10:43, 15F

12/09 10:52, 6年前 , 16F
常看日職就會知道 二縫線不常見
12/09 10:52, 16F

12/09 11:00, 6年前 , 17F
NPB投手真的不太練二縫,之前就有文章寫松井到MLB也是有一
12/09 11:00, 17F

12/09 11:01, 6年前 , 18F
段瓶頸,就是不太會打二縫,後來教練教了他一些訣竅,算是
12/09 11:01, 18F

12/09 11:02, 6年前 , 19F
克服了這個弱點
12/09 11:02, 19F

12/09 11:12, 6年前 , 20F
好文啊
12/09 11:12, 20F

12/09 12:05, 6年前 , 21F
可以說幾乎沒有二縫 有的話大概也是洋將比較多
12/09 12:05, 21F

12/09 12:06, 6年前 , 22F
大概就菅野有一定比例使用一縫線 然後就美馬學吧
12/09 12:06, 22F

12/09 12:40, 6年前 , 23F
練了一堆變化球 就是不練二縫線 很怪
12/09 12:40, 23F

12/09 12:41, 6年前 , 24F
重點是日投變化球投一堆但是掌握能力並不好
12/09 12:41, 24F

12/09 12:42, 6年前 , 25F
不如少丟一些不怎麼樣的變化球 多練練二縫線
12/09 12:42, 25F

12/09 12:45, 6年前 , 26F
有人說是跟用球有關係 不清楚
12/09 12:45, 26F

12/09 12:47, 6年前 , 27F
黑田回去廣島後二縫被打擊率也蠻高的
12/09 12:47, 27F

12/09 12:51, 6年前 , 28F
然後大概也沒啥教練會教@@?
12/09 12:51, 28F

12/09 13:20, 6年前 , 29F
放心啦尾勁這種東西去大檸檬自己會長出來(誤
12/09 13:20, 29F

12/09 13:22, 6年前 , 30F
四縫線有三振能力的位置大概是3,丟到其他地方容易死
12/09 13:22, 30F
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