[情報] Hamels交易 費城人想要3到4名頂級新秀

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The rumors of Cole Hamels' departure will not soon subside. The ace lefthander cannot be traded until November. Whether or not to deal Hamels to replenish a depleted pool of young talent will be the winter's most significant dilemma. Hamels has made his intent clear: He wants to remain in Philadelphia. But he wants to win, and contention could take the Phillies years to recapture. "For me the idea is to try to turn it around rather quickly," manager Ryne Sandberg said. "You have to have starting pitching to do that and he'd be a big piece." That is why the Phillies will want an acquiring team to surrender three or four top prospects and assume the $96 million owed to Hamels. They are in no way motivated to trade the 30-year-old pitcher; Sandberg identified starting pitching as the team's greatest need moving forward. 費城人希望找到一支能拿出3到4名頂級新秀 並吃下Hamels剩餘96M薪資的球隊 -- 【Xavier 元創主義】: 美日韓台棒球資訊站 https://www.facebook.com/XavierStyle -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.25.226.33 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/MLB/M.1408240848.A.CFC.html
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08/17 10:01, , 1F
洗洗睡比較快
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08/17 10:02, , 2F
坐等冤大頭上鉤.....
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08/17 10:02, , 3F
當其他隊是凱子嗎??也難怪薪資這麼高費城人戰績卻這麼爛
08/17 10:02, 3F
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08/17 10:03, , 4F
臉上寫著我想搶劫
08/17 10:03, 4F
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08/17 10:04, , 5F
Hamels很不錯呀.有缺ACE的可以考慮進補一下 頂級變速球
08/17 10:04, 5F
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08/17 10:06, , 6F
搶劫也不是這樣搶的吧 誰會上鉤啊...
08/17 10:06, 6F
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08/17 10:07, , 7F
這條件太貪心了zzz
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08/17 10:10, , 8F
漫天喊價 落地還錢
08/17 10:10, 8F
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08/17 10:10, , 9F
這是在跟神龍許願嗎
08/17 10:10, 9F
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08/17 10:11, , 10F
跑打頭臉嘴 五拍子 好Ace不簽嗎?
08/17 10:11, 10F
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08/17 10:12, , 11F
又帥又強又有錢，各位看官不考慮嗎?
08/17 10:12, 11F
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08/17 10:13, , 12F
這根本就在找冤大頭阿XDD
08/17 10:13, 12F
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08/17 10:15, , 13F
想當年Halladay Lee Hamels Oswalt四巨頭的陣容....
08/17 10:15, 13F
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08/17 10:17, , 14F
甲咖霸拉
08/17 10:17, 14F
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08/17 10:21, , 15F
3到4名頂級新秀也不會去換那麼貴的Hamels了
08/17 10:21, 15F
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08/17 10:24, , 16F
要賣臉了喔 (〞︶〝＊)
08/17 10:24, 16F
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08/17 10:28, , 17F
想重建又拉不下臉
08/17 10:28, 17F
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08/17 10:29, , 18F
XD
08/17 10:29, 18F
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08/17 10:34, , 19F
賣高罵，賣太少..GM又被罵腦殘，怎樣都要罵就是了
08/17 10:34, 19F
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08/17 10:35, , 20F
語畢...哄堂大笑
08/17 10:35, 20F
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08/17 10:37, , 21F
David Price
08/17 10:37, 21F
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08/17 10:41, , 22F
甲霸緊困
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08/17 10:41, , 23F
喊高一點沒啥問題吧，有興趣的球隊也會討價還價
08/17 10:41, 23F
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08/17 10:42, , 24F
缺先發有錢有新秀的球隊 恩... 恩... 恩... 還真想不到
08/17 10:42, 24F
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08/17 10:43, , 25F
洋基阿
08/17 10:43, 25F
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08/17 10:44, , 26F
擺明不想賣
08/17 10:44, 26F
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08/17 10:44, , 27F
恩歪歪沒新秀 都是假貨 不要找我們謝謝合作
08/17 10:44, 27F
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08/17 10:44, , 28F
Cashman最擅長的就是幫其他球隊吃薪資來壓低交易籌碼
08/17 10:44, 28F
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08/17 10:44, , 29F
洋基表示 我農場你自己挑四個！
08/17 10:44, 29F
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08/17 10:46, , 30F
今年FA就有3隻頂級SP了
08/17 10:46, 30F
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08/17 10:48, , 31F
不衝突，左投兼前段輪值這種SP到哪裡都是稀有財
08/17 10:48, 31F
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08/17 10:49, , 32F
就薪資太高阿，不然應該很多人想搶
08/17 10:49, 32F
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08/17 10:49, , 33F
今年那3隻頂級SP正常情況下也都會簽到比Hamels貴
08/17 10:49, 33F
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08/17 10:52, , 34F
GM今年拿不到冠軍就會被炒的可以考慮一下
08/17 10:52, 34F
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08/17 10:54, , 35F
重建哪有那麼快 真的想一步登天- -
08/17 10:54, 35F
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08/17 11:34, , 36F
fa那三隻雖然貴但不用拆農場
08/17 11:34, 36F
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08/17 11:36, , 37F
想太多
08/17 11:36, 37F
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08/17 11:42, , 38F
黑魔師+小李 < > 四隻頂級新秀 還可能
08/17 11:42, 38F
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08/17 11:42, , 39F
又要我幫忙吃薪資空間 又要我給你3.4名頂級新秀
08/17 11:42, 39F
還有 43 則推文
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08/17 16:03, , 83F
他的約絕對是划算的好嗎 只是要3~4個新秀太誇張
08/17 16:03, 83F
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08/17 16:04, , 84F
沒有說他現在的約不划算 但這種大約哪有要人吃
08/17 16:04, 84F
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08/17 16:04, , 85F
又要人丟一堆新秀的
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08/17 16:06, , 86F
何況我覺得他的約現在只是剛好 FA也只能領到略高一些
08/17 16:06, 86F
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08/17 16:08, , 87F
這張約剩的年紀很好 現在才FA就會包到他後面幾年
08/17 16:08, 87F
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08/17 16:09, , 88F
黑魔使那時簽的不是144M/6Y嗎 我看BR他前兩年領19.5和
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08/17 16:10, , 89F
22.5M 這樣他的約還剩下102M/4Y吧
08/17 16:10, 89F
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08/17 16:13, , 90F
這篇為什麼是算96M/4Y
08/17 16:13, 90F
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08/17 16:13, , 91F
有預感運動家會收
08/17 16:13, 91F
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08/17 16:14, , 92F
如果一個top30 外帶兩個top80~100等級的 還可接受
08/17 16:14, 92F
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08/17 16:16, , 93F
平均或許差不多 但是現在FA要多加兩年買他的35.36歲
08/17 16:16, 93F
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08/17 16:17, , 94F
這是完全不一樣的事情
08/17 16:17, 94F
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08/17 16:18, , 95F
為什麼會96M是因為還要把簽約金算進去
08/17 16:18, 95F
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08/17 16:18, , 96F
喔喔 忘了算簽約金
08/17 16:18, 96F
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08/17 16:18, , 97F
吃合約是OK，但還要出到3~4名頂級新秀太扯
08/17 16:18, 97F
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08/17 16:18, , 98F
想太多了
08/17 16:18, 98F
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08/17 16:19, , 99F
如果可以一樣價錢跟ACE簽四年就搞定合約不會有人想要簽6年
08/17 16:19, 99F
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08/17 16:24, , 100F
歐北共，什麼簽約金算進去
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08/17 16:25, , 101F
Hamels的合約是15-18 90M+ 19 6M buyout
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08/17 16:27, , 102F
那這篇是怎麼算的??
08/17 16:27, 102F
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08/17 16:28, , 103F
144M/6Y 19.5+22.5*5+6M買斷+6M簽約金=144M
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08/17 16:29, , 104F
資料來源 Cot's Baseball Contracts
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08/17 16:30, , 105F
所以是剩下四年90M+買斷金6M=96M?
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簽約金早在簽約時就拿了，哪有人留到最後給
08/17 16:30, 106F
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08/17 16:30, , 107F
對 我說的簽約金是整張合約 不是剩下的部份
08/17 16:30, 107F
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08/17 16:31, , 108F
我從頭到尾沒說最後給阿 我只是在回應為什麼不是剩102M/4Y
08/17 16:31, 108F
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08/17 16:31, , 109F
buyout就buyout，跟簽約金關係在哪裡
08/17 16:31, 109F
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08/17 16:32, , 110F
我那時候就是說扣掉前兩年已經領的 應該是102M/4Y
08/17 16:32, 110F
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08/17 16:32, , 111F
後來忘了扣簽約金
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08/17 16:32, , 112F
忘了吧簽約金補在前兩年
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08/17 16:34, , 113F
Tukiyomi你要不要先看清楚Q&A再來開嗆也不遲 不要急嘛
08/17 16:34, 113F
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08/17 16:54, , 114F
你好嘲諷xD
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08/17 17:07, , 115F
洗洗睡比較快
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08/17 19:20, , 116F
北佬 好像很缺 上
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08/17 20:51, , 117F
擺明在說：「誰交易誰就是傻子喔！」
08/17 20:51, 117F
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08/17 21:50, , 118F
北佬再拿薪資又要爆了，不可能啦
08/17 21:50, 118F
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08/18 10:27, , 119F
NYY 農場沒東西啦...
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08/18 15:07, , 120F
開價讓大家砍的麻～ 不用太認真 等成交再說
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08/18 18:15, , 121F
吃合約沒問題 值這個價錢 但還要凹新秀就...
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還在當年四天王發夢
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